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Crack vs. Sugar - which is more addictive?


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So, I've just started to have a paradigm shift about my sweet tooth. I really am seriously addicted to dessert type foods. Let's say I go with this addiction idea and treat my treats the same way someone would quit smoking. (Oh, if only they had a sweet patch Smile)I'm going cold turkey with my sweets for one month and then I will add sweets back in on social occasions, no other time.

 

What's your addiction? Can you relate to the "gotta have it" mentality?

 

What do you think about this concept of treating your food addiction like a drug addiction? Is there a way to create a rehab situation for sugar addiction? Any pros or cons about treating it in this manner?

 

 

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I think both are addictive, but on two very different levels.  Thankfully quitting sugar doesn't make us get sick with horrific withdrawals and we have no physical dependence on it (although mentally we might be going crazy) 

I definitely have a sweet weakness.  I never really thought of myself as having a sweet tooth until recently.

I'm definitely trying to just stay away from sweets right now because it's like once I start...I just can't stop.  I need to find some sort of balance.  Having yogurt and frozen fruits has been helping. 

Sugar addiction/food addiction is just a way of thinking that gives a person a false sence of not being in control. There is no such thing as a sugar/food addiction. Thinking this way is dangerous because it puts something other than you in control. You are in 100% control.

Sugar/food cravings are a result of insulin and hormonal reactions to what you eat. Eat the proper foods and you won't have the 'cravings' for sugar or other foods.

This is NOT addiction. It's human chemistry/anatomy. Learn how to run your body properly, don't try to give away your accountability by calling it an addiction.

Original Post by runningbuns:

I'm definitely trying to just stay away from sweets right now because it's like once I start...I just can't stop.  I need to find some sort of balance.  Having yogurt and frozen fruits has been helping. 

Oooh, runningbuns, I love frozen sweet cherries. One cup is 60 cal and it's like popping little pieces of candy. Love it!

And I totally agree with the different levels of addiction. Thank goodness!

sybil878,

AMEN to that! You are so right about human chemistry/ anatomy. I have not had any "refined" foods (white flour, stuff in bottles, packaged anything) for the last three weeks. Before, a bag of mini Milky Ways was nothing,....now I have absolutely NO NEED for anything that sweet. 

Everything tastes much richer, now the natural sweetness of fruit is bliss (I wanted to use another word here but didn't know if I could say that "O" word LOLOL)

I always thought it to be "out of control cravings" rather than an addiction. Just notice what your cravings are telling you just before your period! ergo = chemistry!

(three weeks, 8lb lost, feeling great!,....)

oxoxBarbB

Original Post by sybil878:

Sugar addiction/food addiction is just a way of thinking that gives a person a false sence of not being in control. There is no such thing as a sugar/food addiction. Thinking this way is dangerous because it puts something other than you in control. You are in 100% control.

Sugar/food cravings are a result of insulin and hormonal reactions to what you eat. Eat the proper foods and you won't have the 'cravings' for sugar or other foods.

This is NOT addiction. It's human chemistry/anatomy. Learn how to run your body properly, don't try to give away your accountability by calling it an addiction.

 I have to disagree. I think you can consider it a drug since it alters your brain chemistry. I don't think that there is as drastic of an addiction to sugars as to crack, nicotine, etc.

I have a friend that is in a long term addiction treatment group. they have a subgroup that involves their food addiction. There is a whole gamut of arguments on both sides that will agree or disagree with the idea of an addictive personality...but thats how they address dealing with food issues in this specific group. So its not just you that thinks you might be possibly a sugar addict.

On that note, I can relate my sugar cravings with my nicotine cravings. Granted I smoke on a regular basis and have a time clock for when I want another smoke, there are other times when I want it too. IE when I'm stressed or angry about something. Even if I just had one I want another...and sometimes another! I want a chocolate chip cookie in one hand and a cigarette in the other, lol. Your body is chemically looking for a way to cope for with the stress chemicals in your brain...and sugar increases happy hormones.

However, denying the craving for the chocolate cookie isnt going to make me near as snarky and uncomfortable as not smoking. And resisting sugar maybe will give me a headache, which is nothing compared to how I've been lately trying to quit the cigaretts.

I too am trying to detox from sugar. But we have to make a distinction between good sugar (like fruits) and bad sugar (the white refined kind). Our brain craves sugars sometimes for emotional reasons, and other times because we need it. But when we give our body sugars in the form of a cookie (can you tell i really want a cookie right now or what) then the next time we want sugar for any reason, our body craves a cookie. If instead you start eating fruit every time you have a craving for sugar, you brain will eventually learn to crave the fruit instead of junk. That way not only are you getting the sugar, but you are also getting vitamins and minerals too!

terrabella86,

Of course you are right as well. In cases where people have to get real help for their problems it is not the food they need to "treat" they will need to treat the underlying reasons for needing the "comfy-blankets". You know what I mean?!

Anyway,....for us "normal" junkies Laughing it makes a huge difference when changing to unrefined stuff. I believe the reports that there is something in our packaged food that wants us to want more.

Ok, you go get your cookie, I'll have the smoke Cool (....and you thought I was perfect LOLOLOL)

BarbB

Well I don't know anyone who's become bankrupt just from a sweet-tooth yet, so I'm going to go with crack...

Wow, this is fascinating. I'm actually learning quite a lot from everyone.

 

I will qualify what I meant by not having sweets. I mean a candy bar or a piece of cake. And yes, when I do get a "craving" I am substituting it with a fruit.

 

terrabella86, I appreciate you speaking up about the addiction treatment group. It made me think about class I took about a year ago that was run through the psychology department of our local university. It was essentially a weight loss group that focused on the mental aspects of over eating. It was awesome! I learned that my body has been reprogrammed and I no longer know what it's asking me. For example, if I begin feeling anemic instead of eating a steak or some spinach I go for a Snickers bar because of the process gives me comfort and the sugar rush triggers positive feelings when I have one. By giving up the processed sugars I am giving up a quick fix, but I am also giving myself a chance to learn what my body is telling me again.

 

 

 

Original Post by flubberbutt:

terrabella86,

Of course you are right as well. In cases where people have to get real help for their problems it is not the food they need to "treat" they will need to treat the underlying reasons for needing the "comfy-blankets". You know what I mean?!

Anyway,....for us "normal" junkies Laughing it makes a huge difference when changing to unrefined stuff. I believe the reports that there is something in our packaged food that wants us to want more.

Ok, you go get your cookie, I'll have the smoke Cool (....and you thought I was perfect LOLOLOL)

BarbB

 But I want both!!!!!!!!!

hehe

go for it,...but just one each,....boy oh boy now I sound like your Mom! LOLOL No!!!! Don't do it!

Man sugar vs crack, both very strong addictions and most people don't even realize that sugar is so addictive.  Sugar can be very hard to give up such as crack. I am sure that crack is much of a stronger addiction but they both are probably equally as hard to give up.

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Original Post by sybil878:

Sugar addiction/food addiction is just a way of thinking that gives a person a false sence of not being in control. There is no such thing as a sugar/food addiction. Thinking this way is dangerous because it puts something other than you in control. You are in 100% control.

Sugar/food cravings are a result of insulin and hormonal reactions to what you eat. Eat the proper foods and you won't have the 'cravings' for sugar or other foods.

This is NOT addiction. It's human chemistry/anatomy. Learn how to run your body properly, don't try to give away your accountability by calling it an addiction.

well, certainly sugar kills a far, FAR, more people than crack/cocaine or for that matter all illicit drugs combined.  :-)

addiction has to do with the brain's reward system.

for example: compare Webster's definition to Random House's:

Webster:

compulsive need for and use of a habit-forming substance (as heroin, nicotine, or alcohol) characterized by tolerance and by well-defined physiological symptoms upon withdrawal ; broadly : persistent compulsive use of a substance known by the user to be harmful

RH:

the state of being enslaved to a habit or practice or to something that is psychologically or physically habit-forming, as narcotics, to such an extent that its cessation causes severe trauma.

 

saying that sugar is not addictive is both silly and dangerous.  the person who wrote likely does not believe in "addiction" in the sense that it move beyond one's own will power

 

i do not necessarily disagree as even the worst(?) recovering addict appears to wall through the door to recovery by their own accord and they must, I am told.

 

but to not accept the term "addiction" as valid in any sense other than an obfuscation of personal responsibility and will power is uninformed and THAT is what is dangerous.

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