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ANTM: Whitney, plus-size model???? HUH???????????


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Did anyone watch ANTM tonight? That girl is supposed to be a plus-sized model and she wearing a size 10 from a designer rack (whish is often smaller than regular clothes!) on top of it, she's a tall girl too, so size 10 is pretty good! On a go-see, the designer told her that she would not be able to use her in real life because she needs size 2!!! I was stunned! I thought last cycle was promoting healthy modeal... size 2 when you're 5'10"?????? Are they crazy????

I have to say (to be completly honest) that the same designer said the same thing to a girl wearing a size 0: we want size 2, but still...

BTW, I find Whitney to be very beautiful compared to all these sticks. Tyra should know better! But I can't deny it: LOOOVE that show! What do you think????

Edited Apr 03 2008 04:16 by nycgirl
Reason: Moved from Weight Loss to The Lounge forum
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I adore ANTM.. unfortunately it has been the cause of many EDs.
I think Whitney is a little chunky.. but she is gorgeous. Her hair is amazing.

I have also noticed that none of the thin girls are actually that.. pretty. A couple of them are skinny-fat with awful personalities... but that's part of the entertainment. =P

But the edited photos... they are brilliant!

Original Post by wistfulxthinking:

I adore ANTM.. unfortunately it has been the cause of many EDs.
I think Whitney is a little chunky.. but she is gorgeous. Her hair is amazing.

I have also noticed that none of the thin girls are actually that.. pretty. A couple of them are skinny-fat with awful personalities... but that's part of the entertainment. =P

But the edited photos... they are brilliant!

 I think Katarzyna is absolutely stunning, and Claire was quite beautiful as well. Fatima is very pretty, but her personality is vile. Dominique looks like a 40-year-old man.

I think ANTM messes with our mind because she's too small to be a plus-size model (as was Sarah, size 8, from last season). Plus-sizes are supposed to be between 12-16, I believe, which is still not that big (especially a 12 at 5'10), but by putting girls too small to be plus-sized models on the show.

shes a ctually a size 8-not 10.

Modelling is a job.  They have specific requirements.  A hospital isn't going to hire a random person off the streets to be a doctor, right?  I know that's taking it a bit to the extreme but many websites have explained it, many times on television has it been explained, and often on Calorie Count it is, too that in modelling a size 8 is simply too big.  It's great for plus-sized modelling, but not runway modelling if the designer doesn't show plus-sized clothes.

It's not meant to offend anyone.  It's just how things are.  They certainly don't expect everyone in the world to be as stick-thin as the "normal" models on the show.  It's an exaggeration of every-day women and in comparison.

I think Whitney is gorgeous, too.  I don't like her hair so much, it kind of scares me, but otherwise I think she's stunning and am hoping she'll be one of the first plus-sized models to make it to their top three.  Someone in the first season was close (I didn't even know she was a plus-sized model until a few weeks ago), but not close enough.

I know compared to other cycles, the girls on this show are pretty much all ugly, except maybe for Katarzyna (!!) and Stacey-Ann (what an annoying voice though!!!). I was so surprised that Claire actually got the boot, that Lauren girl, she just doesn't know how to walk.... amzing that she is still there.... All the other girls annoy me SOOOOOO much.....

Whitney is gorgeous and by far the most attractive girl on the show.

None of the other girls do it for me this year, except Katarzyna who is also gorgeous.

My roomate (a guy) and I watch it together and always joke that the "plus" size girls they have on there are skinny normal girls, but fat models. It's so sad because really, she's too big to be a normal model, and too small to be a plus-size model. There is just no happy medium! She's freaking gorgeous though! I'd kill to look like her!

Thank you cellulitedelight, that was a great perspective. Just like women don't expect men to look like body builders, men shouldn't (and usually don't) expect women to look like runway models.

I think Whitney is very pretty. I also admire that she remains (usually) pretty good even around much thinner girls and designers who say they won't book her because of weight. Although I think she faces more obstacles in the competition, I don't think she should be treated any more or less fairly than the normally thin girls - she's just a regular contestant in the competition.

I noticed that a lot of the girls are skinny-fat too wistfulxthinking! Some of those girls may be skinny, but they need a protein shake and a set of hand weights PRONTO.
Honestly, if I could be as gorgeous as Whitney, I wouldn't even consider to lose weight. She's just absolutely beautiful. She also has this confidence in her eyes that make her even more stunning.

I like the other girl Katarzyna because she has such a beautiful feature. I like Lauren for her appearance but she's just too awkward.

Hate Stacey-Ann and Fatima....can't stand them. I laughed when Tyra and the other judges said Nigel just doesn't liek Fatima...because that's me too...
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Did Katarzyna make up her name, or did somebody actually name her that??????

I think whitney is beautiful too! My boyfriend was watching the show with me last night and he turned to me all confused when they said 'plus sized'. He's like "shes not fat.., those other girls are just gross looking"

Mind you I AM a size 2. Different circumstances, but the outlook is what it is.

Modeling is a job, and companies are allowed to pick and choose who they want for their run way. If the 'model' of the company isn't represented by the people they choose to show their fashion, then they won't hire them. And apparently they did not want a plus sized girl representing what they stand for. That's like getting mad at a company for not hiring a character artist when they are looking for a painter. Just doesn't fit their need.

But there is a place in the fashion industry for Whitney, as was seen in her next go see.

 

I've done a small bit of plus size modeling, on my own, as a hobby. I was a size 14-16 and 5'6" at the time.

In the REAL world, I would never make it. Anyone under 5'8" cannot be a runway model. People 5'4"-5'8" can be magazine models, and people of almost any height can be art models.

The deal is this. Runway models need to be coat hangers. They aren't supposed to be fantastically curvy, or so skinny that they don't fill out the clothes properly. They need to be built so they emphasize the flow and structure of the clothing, and someone who is only 5'6" (like me) isn't going to do that properly.

The same with people who are over a size 4-6. Plus size actually starts at a size 8 for runway modeling. MOST plus size models are size 12 however, as that is the medium of the range.

I agree that a woman who is 5'8" and a size 2 is incredibly tiny, but some people do have the bone structure to pull that off and still be healthy. SOME, certainly not all, and probably not most.

i think that the show is really entertaining. and when youre like theyre not promoting 'healthy', well obviously. they are being realistic. these people are trying to make it into high fashion, which is like making it big, so of course they are going to be selective with their sizes, etc.

I'm not really in favor of plus size models, but I do think if there were plus sizes that Whitney should be the example. I think she represents a healthier woman, although I believe everyone except for Allison (anorexic... worcestershire sauce and jello?!) and maybe Fatima is healthy. A plus size should not be someone who's gut is poppin' on out of their shirt, because you can't really be that overweight without actually purposely trying, but someone who eats decently and who exercises. I don't think a morbidly overweight (as in 26+ BMI) should be a model, because that's as bad as an anorexic supermodel. But for that matter, Tyra's BMI is about 22-23!

If there's such a furore about having "unhealthy" size 0 models and whatnot I don't see why unhealthy plus-size models should be allowed too. Both are as bad as the other. What we need is some real size models :)


No one else seems to like Anya. Whyyy? I think she's totally adorable!

I love Anya! My favorite is Katarzyna, but I admit I like Anya second best.

Wow, I really cannot believe that you guys settle for that its "just how things are." I guess it doesn't matter that girls kill themselves over "how thing are" because the fashion industry has made it this way. CD, I don't find any comparison between the job of modeling to being a doctor and practically and other job out there. You can't kill yourself by studying too hard. The requirements to become a doctor are achievable by everyone. Not everyone can be a size 0 and when a model is a size 2 or 4 and all they have are size 0 jeans there's not other option but to starve herself to get there. When Luisel Ramos died walking off of the runway from having a heart attack caused by anorexia [her little sister also died of anorexia] Karl Lagerfeild pranced a size 24 model down the Paris runways. I guess thats all just a part of the job though.

I for one find Tyra Banks an annoying narcissistic hypocrite. When one of the "plus sized" models started to lose weight they threatened to eliminate her off of the show. I guess we'll never have healthy models as long as she's around.

"Models starve themselves, and we tell them to,” says Richard Habberley, a top agent with Elite, which reps Victoria’s Secret hottie Alessandra Ambrosio and Maybelline face Jessica White.

 

First of all, runway models for non-plus-size modelling shows have to be either a size 2 or 4. Size 0 models are no longer allowed on the runways because the fashion industry is now making an effort to reduce the number of eating disorders of the world. Size 0 models look and usually are too sickly to walk the runways. In the show, when the woman said that she usually only hires size 2 girls, she wasn't being mean, but stating a fact. Many designers only hire girls of that size and Whitney, unfortunately is too big for most designers. However, I agree that she is also too small to be a plus-size model. She has a terrific figure which I think is too fit and not curvy/busty enough to be on a plus-size runway. And here is where I have a problem. I am sort of in Whitney's situation. I am 5'11'' and a size 10. I would LOVE to be a size 4, but sadly, my bone structure will never allow that. But still, I love fashion and would kill to walk the runways. I think I would be great and look great (not to sound like I'm praising myself, just maybe upping my confidence), but I am too big to be a regular runway walker and too small to be a plus size model. I am not curvy and not busty. I guess I look sort of like a regular model if you grabbed her hips and stretched her out a few inches. And that sucks!! The industry has to get in the game and get some in the middle models, because no matter how much I would love to be a size 4, it's not gonna happen. I might be able to make a size 6 if I worked at it enough, but I'd have to get off my butt haha.

i think whitney is the only pretty one out of the entire bunch.

I think Whitney is ugly because of her personality. And I think she's  pretty average looking. I think she looked much better with dark hair.

No one else seems to like Anya. Whyyy? I think she's totally adorable!

I think Anya is the best. She has the most natural talent. I'm glad Dominique is gone. Like Miss J. kept saying... she looked like a drag queen.

And like someone else said... plus size runway modeling is size 8-12. Sorry... it's just how it is. I personally wouldn't want to see a size 20 girl doing runway... and I'm a bigger girl myself.

I think Whitney is ugly because of her personality.

I disagree with you here. I think she seems like one of the more normal girls personaltiy-wise.

No one else seems to like Anya. Whyyy? I think she's totally adorable!I think Anya is the best. She has the most natural talent. I'm glad Dominique is gone. Like Miss J. kept saying... she looked like a drag queen.

The only thing I don't like about Anya is her weird accent. It is NOT Hawaiian. It's Russian-y so either she was born in Russia and moved to Hawaii when she was a kid or her parents are Russian, because that is definitely not a Hawaiian accent. Look at her appearance and name too. She definitely comes from Russia or somewhere around it.

And like someone else said... plus size runway modeling is size 8-12. Sorry... it's just how it is. I personally wouldn't want to see a size 20 girl doing runway... and I'm a bigger girl myself.

Agreed. I think people who are too big, like a size 20, shouldn't actually be that size. I think in those cases they need to get in shape, however, I still have a problem with the fact that they still only take normal small models or big models and none really inbetween.

 

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