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Cyclists shouldn't be on the roads!


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This weekend on a road I and many cyclits and triathletes use to train, there was a severe accident involving an SUV and a group of triathletes on a training ride. The road is straight, there are two lanes plus a center lane and a bike lane on both sides. There is desert on the shoulders and no sidewalks.

There were 20ish cyclists in bright yellow jerseys riding single file in the bike lane when the driver, admitted by her to police, looked down to change her GPS, drifted into the bike lane and hit the cylists. Three are still in hospital and one is in a medically-induced coma with a broken back, neck and bleeding on the brain. This team is my team, Racelab, and I was supposed to be on that training ride but I opted out due to a sore knee.

I have been reading commets on the articles all weekend and some of them have made me physically ill: "They shouldn't be on the road. Roads are for cars." "Serves them right; common sense, people. Sidewalks, use them." "I hate bike riders; I aim for them, lol!!!" "Strike!!! Good, scare em off." "If you're riding with your back to traffic, you're asking to get hit."

So, here it is: how do you feel about cyclists? If you're a driver, do you know the rights a cyclist has while sharing the road with you? If you're a cyclist, do you know your responsibilities while riding?

For example, in many states, if there is no bike lane, a cyclist may use a lane in which to ride. And I really don't think most people walking their dogs or pushing strollers want me whizzing by at 20 mph in my aero bars on the sidewalks.......

Edited Apr 11 2012 14:48 by nomoreexcuses
Reason: Locked at OP's request
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In this case, throw the book at that driver.  The cyclists were sharing the road.

However, I have no sympathy for cyclists that deliberately hog entire lanes and do not share the road with drivers.  As long as they're at least trying to stay as far to the right as possible (heck, I'll even be lenient when it comes to dodging potholes and debris and the like), I've got no problem with them, but if they're traveling down the middle of the lane, they invoke my ire.

Holy heck, KT. So sorry to hear about your team mates. Have to say I'm thankful you weren't on that ride, though.:(

 

I am not an avid cyclist, but as someone in an area with no sidewalks or bike paths, it PISSES me off when people complain about bikers, walkers, joggers are on the road. It pisses me off that when I have taken my bike to work, the only option is driving on the busy highway. Totally unsafe, but what options are there? And with gas being SO expensive, bikers/walkers or choosing to skip the car and use their free transportation.

Yet, in my ****, non-progressive area, this seems like the most retarded concepts on the planet.

I walk my dogs often, and in the old neighborhood, all 3 of us were almost hit by a car, the same car, twice! people in cars think they are so freaking invincible. I don't speed in my car on most backroads, because I know their can be a biker, walker, dogs on the road. Other people are selfish and couldn't give a crap about being considerate to someone's choice.

This lady that hit the bikers, saw the bikers, and still adjusted her GPS? What a **** retard.

In some places it is illegal to ride your bike on the sidewalk, leaving bikers with no choice but to use the road if there isn't a bike road/path.

I cycle to and from work most days, most of the route is traffic free, but part of it is on the road. I don't know what the deal is in the US, but here in the UK cyclists have a right to use the road just as much as cars (but should keep left except when turning right), though most drivers don't seem to either realise or care. I live in London and there are far too many accidents every year where cyclists lose their lives. There's starting to be more public awareness now and political campaigns to make roads safer for cyclists are underway, but there is so much to be done.

In many other European countries the situation is far better. In the Netherlands for instance cyclist and pedestrian rights are usually legally prioritised over drivers.

I hate the fact that I have to risk my life every day to get to work, but the health benefits of cycling (physical and mental) and the fact that it's one of the most ethical ways to travel, makes it worth it for me. I do stay off the main roads though, even when they have on-road bike lanes, as these are just a line painted on the road, which is usually shared with buses, making it extremely unsafe.

It's illegal to cycle on the pavement (sidewalk) in the UK unless indicated that it's a shared footpath. You can get fined up to £50 (not that it seems to be enforced much).

Oh and not that this is related really, but last week a driver threw rubbish at me from his car window. Hit me right in the chest. He laughed and drove away. The world is just full of wonderful people...

 

Holy crap.  Well, that's a bit extreme (understatement). 

I have to admit, cyclists scare the hell out of me.  I don't blame the cyclists though (unless they're being reckless).  I blame narrow roads.

Hell, I support the number of people that are biking to work (because that means less drivers I have to contend with during rush hour).   I think all roads should have bike lanes. 

We're lucky here. Our part of the county has many roads equipped with bike lanes. It's kind of cool to see them on Saturday morning, whizzing by. A nice-looking fit bunch of folks. :)

omg, KT. thankfully you weren't on that training ride, but I'm so sorry to hear of your teammates/friends :( How incredibly sad. Distracted driving is horrible. We don't have a lot of cyclists where I live, but whenever I do see one, I make sure to be extra cautious when riding past them.

First, sorry to hear about this, I hope everyone makes a full recovery.

 

As for cyclists, there are good & bad, & it annoys me that the driver is always presumed to be at fault...not so!

I wouldn't wish any harm to anyone opting to cycle, but I have been known to swear under my breath at them, when they do not abide by the laws of the road.

Original Post by dnrothx:

In this case, throw the book at that driver.  The cyclists were sharing the road.

However, I have no sympathy for cyclists that deliberately hog entire lanes and do not share the road with drivers.  As long as they're at least trying to stay as far to the right as possible (heck, I'll even be lenient when it comes to dodging potholes and debris and the like), I've got no problem with them, but if they're traveling down the middle of the lane, they invoke my ire.

She was a distracted driver and it is all her fault for being careless and she should have more than the book thrown at her! 

Here in my town there aren't bike lanes or sidewalks.  There are a lot of bicyclists that ride from Sedona to Cottonwood all the time on that highway.  They use the shoulder as much as they can and it seems the drivers here are considerate of bikers. 

I do however, never see inconsiderate bike riders around here as far as hogging up a lane of road to ride.  When I see the group of riders I always see them in single file to not block traffic. 

I hope your teammates are all well soon!!! 

Original Post by kelrantymus:

Original Post by kathygator:

We're lucky here. Our part of the county has many roads equipped with bike lanes. It's kind of cool to see them on Saturday morning, whizzing by. A nice-looking fit bunch of folks. :)


My spandex brings all the boys to the yard.......

I know there are cyclists who aren't the best ambassadors but I also know that it's a sad state of affairs when I just assume I will be buzzed or yelled at or honked at by at least one driver every time I ride.

I can't believe drivers would be SO STUPID and careless to HONK at a cyclist. Jesus christ.

My grandparents and my parents are all avid cyclists.  I hear so many horror stories about rude drivers, aggressive drivers, inattentive drivers, all doing things that could kill or severely hurt somebody.  I realize that cyclists can be a little frustrating and might actually slow you down for a few seconds or even a minute, but are you really going to feel better about getting one off the road by sending him to the hospital?

All I can say is if some driver hurts my Nana or Papa, I will have little control over my reaction.

Original Post by kelrantymus:

Original Post by kathygator:

We're lucky here. Our part of the county has many roads equipped with bike lanes. It's kind of cool to see them on Saturday morning, whizzing by. A nice-looking fit bunch of folks. :)


My spandex brings all the boys to the yard.......

I know there are cyclists who aren't the best ambassadors but I also know that it's a sad state of affairs when I just assume I will be buzzed or yelled at or honked at by at least one driver every time I ride.

LOL.   :)

Well, if that's the case...  I think you should embroider "suck" on one half of your cycling pants and "it" on the other (back end, of course).

I have absolutely NO problem slowing down a bit around cyclists.  None whatsoever.   I **** my pants when they pull out in front of me without looking, but I do the same when other drivers do that as well.   

In my state cyclist have full right to the lane.  We are allowed to ride two abreast and we are not required to move over to allow a motorist to pass.  Motorist are require to pass in the other lane only when it is safe to do so.

Sharing the road involves knowing each others rights and responsibilities and working together to make things better for both the motorists and cyclist. Things like cyclist moving over to make it easier for motorists to pass when it is safe for them to do so.  Or not passing a cyclist in the same lane.  It comes down to courtesy.

Some accidents are unavoidable but it is never acceptable for a motorist to inadvertently change lanes striking other motorists, pedestrians, cyclists, or anyone else.

 

In my years of riding, I've had quite a few bumps and bruises from drivers who didn't see me.

My bike has strobe lights on the front and rear and still drivers don't see me at times. They don't pay attention to the road at all. That's how some of them wind up in ditches and run into trees & power poles.

As a driver, I actually look for riders and make sure that everyone is safe.

Original Post by kelrantymus:

Original Post by kathygator:

We're lucky here. Our part of the county has many roads equipped with bike lanes. It's kind of cool to see them on Saturday morning, whizzing by. A nice-looking fit bunch of folks. :)


My spandex brings all the boys to the yard.......

 

Oddly, I rarely notice the chicks in the group...

;P

Original Post by trh:

In my state cyclist have full right to the lane.  We are allowed to ride two abreast and we are not required to move over to allow a motorist to pass.  Motorist are require to pass in the other lane only when it is safe to do so.

Heh.  Yes, the law is on your side and you are free to assume the risks from following it.

ugh, that's awful. as someone who bikes to school/work daily and was once hit by a car while in the bike lane by someone backing out of their driveway, nothing gets me more upset than drivers who do not understand the concept of road-sharing. and being as it's illegal to bike on the sidewalk in my municipality, i kind of don't have a choice, so people who honk at me/swerve aggressively really need to **** off.

also: although inconsiderate/bad cyclists do exist, someone on a ten speed doesn't have the power to mow over a car or put anyone (save for maybe an on-foot pedestrian, or themselves) in the hospital. it's not excusable to be a bad cyclist, but there's a big difference in the degree of harm you can cause.

I agree that cyclists have a right to be on the road. The problem is that they are fragile, don't use signals, usually go through red lights, sometimes cycling over crosswalks and then back on the road, make insane left turns and for the love of ......., drive downtown when it's icy.

My personal peeve: them swerving to avoid "manholes" and "puddles" without warning. Be a man and drive over the manholes. Signal if you're going to manoeuvre in front of a car. I've cycled over cobblestony road lots of times with no problem. A manhole is no issue.

And yes, when it's icy and people/cars tend to slip, it really isn't a good idea to cycle.

Original Post by cptbunny:

In some places it is illegal to ride your bike on the sidewalk, leaving bikers with no choice but to use the road if there isn't a bike road/path.

This.

In my city it is illegal but i do it anyway because it is so unsafe to be on the road.  I can't tell you the number of times I've almost been hit.  Even just crossing the road is dangerous.  It's worse for cyclists than it is motorcyclists because we are silent.

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