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Draft: Who can and can't be drafted? and other ?'s


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Can officers be recalled?

Can anyone that's already served eight years be drafted?

Edit: Also what do you consider the likelihood of a draft? Does it effect the way you're voting? Has it even crossed your mind thus far?

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There is no draft...

Males must register for a draft within 30 days of their 18th birthday. I can't remember how long they are considered active if a draft was instituted. I'm thinking either 22 or 24.

http://www.sss.gov/ and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_Servic e

should provide you with the info you need.
if your worried about it....just become a priest if they try to draft you :D religion to the rescue!

I'll be the head priestess of the Church of the Miller Lite.

I think a draft will be happening if we don't get our act together soon and get Iraqs running thier own country - Obviously with the armed services not letting those who enlisted "out" in their time they are hurting for manpower.  I have 2 kids (luckily females) who are of age.  It scares me to death to think that my youngest considered national guard- we all know what happens to those volunteers. 

You know what would be a nice alternative- let all the persons who want to live in the US have to serve 2 years in armed services. 

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Alibsam, I hadn't said there was one being issued right now. I just had those questions about it.

Dbackerfan, Yeah. I know generally how it works but had a couple questions. After watching the debate last night it made me wonder. Since we're at odds withs so many places and they were suggesting more and more needed troops.

Loki,  I'm not trying to get out of one or anything of that nature. LMAO! I guess a lot of people would try that though. Keyword: try

Jewelsmcblah, Thank you. I don't know why I hadn't thought to check wiki. I just thought some retired vets reading might know.

We should avoid reinstituting the draft at all costs.  I have horrible memories of the 1960s of boys being drafted, sent to Vietnam and dying or coming back completely broken, with missing limbs, so many of them!  That's the reason there was such massive, violent protest against the war then.  If you were dragged away from home, forced to fight and risk your life and limb, while rich boys (like G.W. Bush) got the cushy, non combat positions at home, you'd revolt too.

I believe the reason we don't have massive protests in the streets now is because it's an all volunteer army.  Our leaders need to learn to use diplomacy and peaceful means in the world to avoid risking the precious lives of those who serve. 

No they aren't going to get you.
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Clairelaine, I understand why people were outraged during Vietnam. I don't see how anyone can be so unaware that the potential of a draft isn't on their horizon though. I completely understand why people were outraged by it in the past. I think people should consider the likelihood of a draft if things continue on this way.  I doubt they will though because they listen to media and political icons. The economy was strong two weeks ago according to Mc.Cain. People refused to even acknowledge a recession extensively. I just think people are deluding themselves to believe it's not likely.


Gysierose, lmao.

Original Post by dbackerfan:

I think a draft will be happening if we don't get our act together soon and get Iraqs running thier own country - Obviously with the armed services not letting those who enlisted "out" in their time they are hurting for manpower.  I have 2 kids (luckily females) who are of age.  It scares me to death to think that my youngest considered national guard- we all know what happens to those volunteers. 

You know what would be a nice alternative- let all the persons who want to live in the US have to serve 2 years in armed services. 

 Under current law, all male U.S. citizens are required to register with Selective Service within 30 days of their 18th birthday. Certain male aliens residing in the U.S., including permanent residents (holders of green cards), seasonal agricultural workers, refugees, parolees, asylees, and even illegal immigrants, are also required to register if they are between 18 and 26 years of age.[6]

 

Nice alternative? Illegal immigrants are already required to register for a draft if one is issued. Are you saying let only foreigners be drafted? Causing them to serve their ' two years ' if a draft is issued? If so, that's ridiculous in my view. Since illegal immigrants already forced to serve that's my conclusion as to what you meant. The desire to save the Americans from their own war isn't a nice alternative. It's a cop out. However, I don't think the US should be fighting  Iraq Civil War either. Foreigners being penalized to fight an American war is ludicrous while Americans stay home. Just as it is for us to fight other countries civil wars for them. It's not our place to start civil wars for other countries either.

Original Post by dbackerfan:

You know what would be a nice alternative- let all the persons who want to live in the US have to serve 2 years in armed services. 

My husband is a legal alien (green card) and I do not like this idea!

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I actually think reinstating a draft would be a great idea. Here's why:

Young people who join the military (and I know this because I was in the Army from 2000 to 2006) tend to be from low socio-economic backgrounds, tend to be from "red" states, tend to be Christian, and often come from military families.

This ends up dividing the country over when to use military force. Those at the very top who came from rich, well educated families and who have always been insulated from the military might be less likely to do things like mislead the country into starting a stupid war if, say, their twin daughters Jenna and Barbara had to go to Iraq for a few rotations as a result. If everyone had a family member serving in the military, people would think twice before voting into office someone who uses bellicose statements about bombing Iran and Syria or staying in Iraq indefinately.

Its not like we have a purely "all volunteer" Army anyway. Most of the people I met in the Army were there because they had to be. They didnt have the money to go to college and jobs had run out in their communities. The only place in town with jobs available was the military recruiter's office.
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PS - To Claire on the topic of Vietnam:

It took our country years to pull out of a highly unpopular war in which, because of the draft, many families across America were personally affected. Now, imagine the draft had never been a part of the Vietnam war. Most of the soldiers dying overseas would have been poor and uneducated, from red states, with a predisposition toward "honoring" their country by serving in the military and being unquestioning patriots. Their parents and friends would be less likely to oppose the government or protest the war, and it would have taken much, much longer to end it.
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Original Post by dbackerfan:

You know what would be a nice alternative- let all the persons who want to live in the US have to serve 2 years in armed services. 

My husband is a legal alien (green card) and I do not like this idea!

 Under current law, all male U.S. citizens are required to register with Selective Service within 30 days of their 18th birthday. Certain male aliens residing in the U.S., including permanent residents (holders of green cards), seasonal agricultural workers, refugees, parolees, asylees, and even illegal immigrants, are also required to register if they are between 18 and 26 years of age.[6]

 

Green card holders are already required to register for a draft if one is issued.

Original Post by kaja:

PS - To Claire on the topic of Vietnam:

It took our country years to pull out of a highly unpopular war in which, because of the draft, many families across America were personally affected. Now, imagine the draft had never been a part of the Vietnam war. Most of the soldiers dying overseas would have been poor and uneducated, from red states, with a predisposition toward "honoring" their country by serving in the military and being unquestioning patriots. Their parents and friends would be less likely to oppose the government or protest the war, and it would have taken much, much longer to end it.

 It would've taken much much longer to end without the draft, Kaja.  That may be the only way we'll end the current war through another draft. Most people don't care until they're personally affected.

The economy was strong two weeks ago according to Mc.Cain.

And that's what you get for listening to McCain.
Original Post by dbackerfan:

You know what would be a nice alternative- let all the persons who want to live in the US have to serve 2 years in armed services. 

seriously?  is it just me or does anyone else find this idea out of line? 

personally, i'm a fan on something similiar to what Norway does - I don't remember the exact specifics, but essentially every young person is enlisted to do either 2 years in armed services or 3-4 years in community services.

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Original Post by alibsam:

The economy was strong two weeks ago according to Mc.Cain.

And that's what you get for listening to McCain.

 Next he'll say " Our military is strong we have enough troops. " Then couple weeks later a draft will be issued! Lol That's the kind of expectations he gives people based on his words. Or is it just me?

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Original Post by cptbunny:

Original Post by dbackerfan:

You know what would be a nice alternative- let all the persons who want to live in the US have to serve 2 years in armed services. 

My husband is a legal alien (green card) and I do not like this idea!

 Under current law, all male U.S. citizens are required to register with Selective Service within 30 days of their 18th birthday. Certain male aliens residing in the U.S., including permanent residents (holders of green cards), seasonal agricultural workers, refugees, parolees, asylees, and even illegal immigrants, are also required to register if they are between 18 and 26 years of age.[6]

 

Green card holders are already required to register for a draft if one is issued.

He's 29 ;)

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