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Fat Vs. Thick....Black Vs. White....and the rolls they play in attraction


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Fat Vs. Thick

The confusion, and what men really like

This little article is being written for all those women out there who seem to think that smaller is better and to inform about what men like to see a woman look like.  I seem to think that race place a definite role in what men look for in women, and the same thing when women look at men.  To me, some women (let’s not generalize) seem to want their bodies to waste away, and eventually become so skinny that they receive the wrong type of attention.  Reducing you body weight/body fat is a great idea, but no to the point that you are not recognizable.   

Going back to the race thing

In my experience, it has been the black males who are particularly fond of “thick women”, and tend to focus more on a woman buttocks and legs;  Hence the reason MOST black men are attracted to Spanish, Black, and White women who are on the curvy side.     There is a difference between being thick, and being overweight, or fat (for lack of a better word).  I’m a black male, and I for one love to see women who are “healthy”.  In other words if you are 5’2 – 5’4…I would like to see a weight of about 115 – 125.  That to me is sexy.  In the 5’5 – 5’8 a woman who is 125 - 130 at 5’5 (a healthy 130 with about 15-18% BF) or 135-145 at 5’8 is perfect in my opinion.  Why do most women shy away from being a little thicker?  Are there insecurity reasons? Not sure.  I also noticed that most Caucasian men tend to look at breasts more so than black men.  Is this a reasonable assumption? 

I tried to do a little experiment in college with my Black friends, and my Caucasian friends, and the results came out just as I thought.

Both races were not biased as to race or ethnic background…meaning none of my friends (including me) care whether the women were black white, or polka dot; however, ALL of the white guys were for the women who had big breasts, and the black guys loved the chicks with nice booties.  But what both the black and the white guys agreed on is the fact that the girls had to have some kind of weight on their bodies, and not be skinny at all.  Slim and skinny are 2 totally different things…so don’t get confused.

As far as men go…

Women don’t want skinny men…they also don’t want a huge chubby one, or a **** diesel MO FO who can’t even put his arms down, because his lats are too big.   For the most part, women don’t mind a slightly out of shape guy, but they would probably like a guy who is fit…just FIT!!!!.  From what I’ve seen, Asian Women are more attracted to White males, and white women are attracted more to a mix, but leaning more towards Caucasian men as well.  Black and Spanish women are for the most part into their own races, with Spanish being divided between the black and Latin men.  What attracts a person to the opposite race?  I love all women black or white or Asian, but I'm interested to find out what attracts the women. I mean when a black woman sees a white guy does she automatically think that he’s not for her…based on race alone?....does the same thing happen when a white woman sees someone like me?  Could this be why people of opposite races  have a bit of a tough time approaching each other when attracted to each other?  If you are in a relationship…tell me what the races are…. Are you black with a white woman…white with an Asian man…let me know, because it is interesting toi see what attracts people to the opposite race.

I’m interested to know what you all think…please do not be racist in this thread…all are welcome to speak in a civilized manner

thanks

Potter

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In other words if you are 5’2 – 5’4…I would like to see a weight of about 115 – 125.  That to me is sexy.  In the 5’5 – 5’8 a woman who is 125 - 130 at 5’5 (a healthy 130 with about 15-18% BF) or 135-145 at 5’8 is perfect in my opinion.

That is not "thick" at all - pretty dang skinny IMO!  15-18% body fat is WELL below what is healthy for a woman.

I agree with you about differences between racial attractions. I live in Phoenix and I can tell you the white guys LOVE the boobs... esp in Scottsdale ;)

However... I have to disagree (enter personal bias) about girls liking skinny guys. I like a lot of different types of guys, regardless of race. And I don't mind them having a nice toned body... but I prefer skinny. And I actually know quite a few other girfriends of mine who also do. Though I think we are all in all the minority.

And I rarely go for an overweight guy... overweight as in flabby. I like to LOOK at muscular guys, but I have found they tend to be more worried about their bodies than thinking of others... just like the girls that want to be rail thin.

Original Post by fuzzys:

In other words if you are 5’2 – 5’4…I would like to see a weight of about 115 – 125.  That to me is sexy.  In the 5’5 – 5’8 a woman who is 125 - 130 at 5’5 (a healthy 130 with about 15-18% BF) or 135-145 at 5’8 is perfect in my opinion.

That is not "thick" at all - pretty dang skinny IMO!  15-18% body fat is WELL below what is healthy for a woman.

 That's true about the weight/height ratio. I plugged in a 145lb woman at 5'8" and her BMI is 22. Which is not thick at all... it's slim. Not skinny.

I have dated white, black and asian (Korean) guys. I don't set limits based on race for who I will date and I'm not sure why people do that. I have found that I am more attracted to white and Korean guys but that doesn't mean I will only date guys from those two races.

I never thought I was attracted to Asian guys until I moved to Korea. Then I got here and realized there are loads of hot Korean guys (I'm not attracted to ALL East Asian guys though... Korean are the most attractive to me by far).

The most important thing, for me, is to be attracted to their personality (after the "initial" attraction).

And I agree with Erin... I like skinny guys. Not insanely thin... but tall and slim...  

On the female side - and to answer your question - I think women are attracted to beauty and symetry. And, since beauty often lies in traits that are recogniseable, we tend to look for the more familiar.

Being white, you would tend to find a man with "white" features more attractive, a black woman would look more for "black" features, and so on...

I also think that women, without wanting to, look for a man that is culturally compatible since a lot of the attactions are based on coupling (for men too - but and breast are indicators that a woman can procreate). They tend to look for someone who would have a compatible background and race/origins may be a factor.

Here, French women are especially attracted by white males, or by hispanic men since they share similar values.

But, as you said... I think this might only go for most people as there are always exceptions and it is a generalisation of an idea.

At the end, since we are exposed to more and more races from an early age, and neighbourhoods are less and less self-segregating by ethnic origins, we will see less of a difference. People will be used to a broader set of features and this will create a different sub-culture.

actually...women have to maintain above 12 percent  or their bones will deteriorate a slow rate...men have to maintain above 3 percent.  15 percent is where you will see alot of young teens at...so it's actually quite healthy.

  1. Original Post by erinlf:

Original Post by fuzzys:

In other words if you are 5’2 – 5’4…I would like to see a weight of about 115 – 125.  That to me is sexy.  In the 5’5 – 5’8 a woman who is 125 - 130 at 5’5 (a healthy 130 with about 15-18% BF) or 135-145 at 5’8 is perfect in my opinion.

That is not "thick" at all - pretty dang skinny IMO!  15-18% body fat is WELL below what is healthy for a woman.

 That's true about the weight/height ratio. I plugged in a 145lb woman at 5'8" and her BMI is 22. Which is not thick at all... it's slim. Not skinny.

 I was referring more to my height range of 5'2" - 5'4", my ideal weight is about 130.  When I was at 115 lbs I was rail thin, wearing size 2's.  i don't consider that "thick".  Women must be at 18%+ to be considered healthy.  If you are attracted to young teens and you are an adult, well, I don't know what to tell you.

Women

Essential fat: 12–15% 

Athletes 16–20%

Fitness 21–24%

Acceptable 25–31% 

Obese 32%+

lo...no i'm not attracted to teens...you said it's not healthy...I was letting you know that it is perfectly healthy to have 15% body fat for women...

 keep in mind that this is a touchy subject with most people, so tried not to over step my bounds and go too far...so I kept everything as conservative as i could.

you have very good points though...thanks for posting.

yes, for extreme athletes or young teens.  That's about it.

right...because I have 5% body fat, but i'm not skinny...I weigh (as of yesterday) 186 LBS...and most of the weight is from the waist down.  I think it looks freaking wierd...you know what I look like....have you ever seen the speed skaters legs, and then the upper body is slim....lol...that's me...

like apollo ohno...I for one don't think that that is attractive to women...they look at my legs and think i'm some kind of super hero or something...I personally love to see it on women.

I'm mostly attracted to Asian, spanish black and white women...

wait does that cover 75 percent of the world?...lol

My chick is Filipina

hahahaha.

In other words if you are 5’2 – 5’4…I would like to see a weight of about 115 – 125.  That to me is sexy.  In the 5’5 – 5’8 a woman who is 125 - 130 at 5’5 (a healthy 130 with about 15-18% BF) or 135-145 at 5’8 is perfect in my opinion.  Why do most women shy away from being a little thicker?

Yeah, that's definitely not describing a "thicker" woman. And you wonder where women get body image issues from.

ok i go that from the last person that posted

i understand....again I didn't want to...you know be too wide with the range, because I didn't want people to take offense but now some might be because I was a bit short with is so...

but what about the race issue, and attractions.... there is so much diversity out there and I think it's a beautiful thing.

Original Post by disease_of_ease:

In other words if you are 5’2 – 5’4…I would like to see a weight of about 115 – 125. That to me is sexy. In the 5’5 – 5’8 a woman who is 125 - 130 at 5’5 (a healthy 130 with about 15-18% BF) or 135-145 at 5’8 is perfect in my opinion. Why do most women shy away from being a little thicker?

Yeah, that's definitely not describing a "thicker" woman. And you wonder where women get body image issues from.

I'm sorry Potter, you know I love yah, but that's not thick. That is right where healthy is. Not thick at all. Thick is a woman who has 10-20 extra lbs. on her, in the right spots. Hour glass figure, but certainly NOT that thin.

wait wait wait, so at 5'8, 139 i'm thick?! interesting. never would have considered myself "thick". healthy, yeah. could use some toning, yeah.

but thick?  

i'm trying to keep in mind that most guys haven't got the slightest clue what different weights look like on women...
Original Post by eddiepotter:

but what about the race issue, and attractions.... there is so much diversity out there and I think it's a beautiful thing.

I dunno I'm not attracted to a certain race, just a certain type (dark hair, the more tattoos the better, etc). My husband is a good percentage Native American, so he has naturally black hair and very dark almost almond shaped eyes, but then he is also Irish from his father's side of his family, so he has pale skin... it's an interesting (and hot!) mix.

It's just so hard to generalize. My ex loved "curvy" women... more cushion for the pushin' was one of his favorite phrases, ha ha (yuk, no wonder he is an ex). A friend of mine was seriously obese and her bf loved really large women. My husband always preferred super thin women before me, although his tastes have changed somewhat since he's been with me! It really just varies person to person. There is no way to say what all men thinks/feels/desires based on your own personal experience or that of your friends.

With that said, I have found many people of other races very attractive, although most often probably I am attracted to white/Hispanic.  But with women, I think personality, attitude, intelligence, outlook on life/beliefs, and how he treats you are far more important than how someone looks.

I think your intentions were good, eddie.  And the weights you listed aren't underweight, so that was good.  But a girl at that weight with that low of a bodyfat is probably what most people would call thin, not thick. 

For example, I'm 5'2, 129, and my body fat is around 16-18%.   Maybe that's a little closer to that 'thick' you were talking about?   

As for me, I tend to find people who are 'different' to be attractive.  As in, they stand out in some way, to me.  Where I live, the majority of the population (by quite a bit) is white.  So I actually tend to notice non-whites more.  I think this might be because I don't fully identify with the caucasian population here; I'm half asian myself, so what I really identify with is being different from the majority.

My boyfriend is about as white as they come though. 

I am 5'6-5'7 and weigh 130 lbs and I would not say I am thick (pics in profile I think) and I would not say I am skinny either just healthy.

As for attraction well I think a lot goes into that. I have dated white men and Hispanic men not because I was attracted to their race but because I was attracted to them.

ok ok...so i got it wrong on the weight side, but I think that two people weighting the same, and are the same height could have two totally different bodies...I guess I was focused on the lower section too much, because my girl is 125 at 5'4, but all the weight is below the waist so in my eyes she is thick...big butt...nice thighs, and slim mid section with abs not much fat......you understand what I mean?....so I guess it varies, but i understand what yall mean...

 

cool cool...you gals are teachin' me alot.

 

keep it up.

I think that men tend to underestimate womens' weight because we tend to fib ***cough LIE cough*** about our weights.  I am just over 5'7" and weigh between 130 and 135.  I am thin.  I don't think my guy friends would ever guess I weighed more than 125, but that is b/c there is a taboo about weighing over a certain amount, so if a women weighs more than that number, she lies about it (admit it ladies...). 

So, given that criteria - yes, the OP underestimated "thick", but I take his point.  I personally don't like to weigh more (and I did weigh 150 after I broke my leg and could do nothing but sit on a couch with my leg up - and eat, of course), b/c I don't get curvy - I have no top measurment to speak of.  I only gain weight in my legs, which looks terrible.  I feel much better about myself when I am working out to reduce my leg size and increase my top half to achieve a more balanced athletic look.  I think the few true hourglass women among us can definitly rock a little heavier weight (Scarlett Johanssen anyone? - not that she is thick either - but compared to the other hollywood starletts...), but, alas, I am not one of those women.

I personally am most attracted to tall and thin guys also - regardless of race (although this criterion tends to make most of the guys I am attracted be white or black).  If they are wearing glasses and if they have a little cute/shy/geek mix - that's even better.  That all being said, women are attracted to men based on personality - much more so than vice versa I think (so the science says).  I know that I am often attracted to men that are not tall, cute, shy or geeky - and very often they are not wearing glasses - which is a shame.


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