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Someone please call me out on this if it's as naive and short-sighted as I'm starting to think it may be...

I think that young women should be held to certain standards of dress regardless of current fashion trends. I don't think that a teenager should be wearing shorts that display butt cheeks or tops that display copious amounts of cleavage. Part of it is how I was raised. Part of it is having a 6 year old SD that will all too soon be wanting to wear too-revealing clothing.

How do you guys feel about young girls being modest? And if you think they should be, what are your reasons?

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Burkas all around!

Original Post by dnrothx:

Burkas all around!

Bahaha, no, no nothing that extreme.

Just really long skirts and sleeves year-round. Laughing

I'm grappling with the certain knowledge that the longer we impose these standards on girls, because they're girls, the longer we'll continue to see gender bias in this country. Unless we can impose a sense of 'modesty' on a boy, how can we justify imposing it on a girl?

OTOH, I would not like to think that a young girl, by dressing provocatively, would more readily attract the attention of a bad man.

dunno.

Krav Maga classes, then she can wear what she wants?

Our family picture from the last Chruch picnic.

Girls have always worn short shorts.  Look at this 70s shorts pattern.  I don't think they're overly sexy... they're just shorts! I don't have a problem with that.  I do get a bit weirded out when I see too much of a young woman's chest, though.  I'm not sure why that's different, to me, but it is.

OMG! My mom had that pattern and made me shorts from it!

:D

Original Post by kathygator:

I'm grappling with the certain knowledge that the longer we impose these standards on girls, because they're girls, the longer we'll continue to see gender bias in this country. Unless we can impose a sense of 'modesty' on a boy, how can we justify imposing it on a girl?

OTOH, I would not like to think that a young girl, by dressing provocatively, would more readily attract the attention of a bad man.

dunno.

Krav Maga classes, then she can wear what she wants?

I could be wrong here, but I don't think that young boys are all about wearing shorts with a 1/2 inch inseam or skirts short enough for their genitals to hang out of. So, I think it's 1 sided, not only because its girls, but also because inherently, female fashion pushes boundaries of modesty. But, then again, it's also acceptable for young boys to go shirtless and completely not for young girls or women.

There's something disconcerting to me about a 12 year old dressing to look like one in their mid-20's.

RE: attracting attention. That's what most female fashion is designed for...to attract attention. Good and bad and wanted and reciprocated and unwanted. I'm not sure that a young teen girl is equipped to maturely handle the attention that may come.

Original Post by kathygator:

I'm grappling with the certain knowledge that the longer we impose these standards on girls, because they're girls, the longer we'll continue to see gender bias in this country. Unless we can impose a sense of 'modesty' on a boy, how can we justify imposing it on a girl?

Of course there's gender bias!  It's not the boys' fault that girls are genetically inclined to walk around half-naked or more.

Original Post by kathygator:

OMG! My mom had that pattern and made me shorts from it!

:D

Love it!

Original Post by lbh:

Original Post by kathygator:

I'm grappling with the certain knowledge that the longer we impose these standards on girls, because they're girls, the longer we'll continue to see gender bias in this country. Unless we can impose a sense of 'modesty' on a boy, how can we justify imposing it on a girl?

OTOH, I would not like to think that a young girl, by dressing provocatively, would more readily attract the attention of a bad man.

dunno.

Krav Maga classes, then she can wear what she wants?

I could be wrong here, but I don't think that young boys are all about wearing shorts with a 1/2 inch inseam or skirts short enough for their genitals to hang out of. So, I think it's 1 sided, not only because its girls, but also because inherently, female fashion pushes boundaries of modesty. But, then again, it's also acceptable for young boys to go shirtless and completely not for young girls or women.

There's something disconcerting to me about a 12 year old dressing to look like one in their mid-20's.

RE: attracting attention. That's what most female fashion is designed for...to attract attention. Good and bad and wanted and reciprocated and unwanted. I'm not sure that a young teen girl is equipped to maturely handle the attention that may come.

Went to Provincetown a few weeks ago. Some of the older young fellas got no problem with that.

Original Post by kathygator:

Unless we can impose a sense of 'modesty' on a boy, how can we justify imposing it on a girl?

Boys should not 'be wearing shorts that display butt cheeks or tops that display copious amounts of cleavage' either.

I think kids should be kids.  A 14 year old is still a child.  So is a 16 year old.  Teens and pre-teens want to be treated like adults, and to be “hot” and “sexy” because our highly sexualized society considers this “normal”.  I find nothing normal about that, actually.   

What I find funny, is that most adults wouldn’t mind being kids again.  Many adults wished they hadn’t grown up so fast.  Because of this, I want my child to have a childhood.  My DD can wear cute things, as long as meet certain standards.  Wearing a dress/shorts that reaches her knees is not too much to ask for.  Same with a 1 piece swimsuit. 

I don’t think I’m asking for the world either. 

Original Post by crazineko:

 

What I find funny, is that most adults wouldn’t mind being kids again. 


Pfft.  That's just 20-20 hindsight now that their lives are screwed up.

Worst thing: Cleavage showing short shorted teenager telling me to get off her lawn.

Original Post by kevinatthebrook:

Our family picture from the last Chruch picnic.

-dies-

Original Post by kevinatthebrook:

Original Post by lbh:

Original Post by kathygator:

I'm grappling with the certain knowledge that the longer we impose these standards on girls, because they're girls, the longer we'll continue to see gender bias in this country. Unless we can impose a sense of 'modesty' on a boy, how can we justify imposing it on a girl?

OTOH, I would not like to think that a young girl, by dressing provocatively, would more readily attract the attention of a bad man.

dunno.

Krav Maga classes, then she can wear what she wants?

I could be wrong here, but I don't think that young boys are all about wearing shorts with a 1/2 inch inseam or skirts short enough for their genitals to hang out of. So, I think it's 1 sided, not only because its girls, but also because inherently, female fashion pushes boundaries of modesty. But, then again, it's also acceptable for young boys to go shirtless and completely not for young girls or women.

There's something disconcerting to me about a 12 year old dressing to look like one in their mid-20's.

RE: attracting attention. That's what most female fashion is designed for...to attract attention. Good and bad and wanted and reciprocated and unwanted. I'm not sure that a young teen girl is equipped to maturely handle the attention that may come.

Went to Provincetown a few weeks ago. Some of the older young fellas got no problem with that.


Heh.  Provincetown's an anomaly. :D

purespark, what's even better is the comparably short men's shorts that were in fashion at about the same time.

I don't think adult women should hold back. Display your cleavage, bare your buns, wear those sheers.

I think I'm still hung up on young girls not understanding the affect their clothing choices will have on those around them (whether or not I think the affect being had is right).

Maybe I'm nuts, but I don't think a 14-year-old girl wearing shorts, showing her coltish legs, is sexualizing herself.  *shrug*

Original Post by lbh:

purespark, what's even better is the comparably short men's shorts that were in fashion at about the same time.

I saw plenty of pictures of those when I googled "70s short shorts" images.  :D

Original Post by dnrothx:

Original Post by crazineko:

 

What I find funny, is that most adults wouldn’t mind being kids again. 


Pfft.  That's just 20-20 hindsight now that their lives are screwed up.

I don't know...the world was a completely different place for me as a child.

And fwiw, I don't think I've screwed up my adulthood too badly just yet :)

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