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How much money do people make from porn sites?


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I was just curious. I mean you can get so much porn for free. Do people still pay for it? 

Edited Jul 22 2013 00:32 by coach_k
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Not as much as what used to be made... back in the 90s all you needed was a handycam, a girl, a server, a T1 and a merchant account and you could pull down 3-4k a month easily, with the popular ones going into well into the 10s of thousands... and that was just for one girl. You could have a half dozen or more on the go, all dependant on your ambition. Some ambitious people developed a pretty affluent lifestyle as a result.

But... all things come to an end. Between online sharing and the recession, the only people making money these days are heavily niched categories and the megasite companies... and they're not making much. Too much 'free love' out there.

You could probably still make a decent living flogging porn sites, but you'd have to go deep into fetish niches. Suicide girls makes some decent coin, I'm told.

:/ you could make $4k a month at Burger King. That was the porn heyday? How many sites would actually make over $10k/mo? Why do you know this?

$3-4k a month (in 1990s dollars) per girl. Depending on how ambitious you wanted to be with shoots and cross-site promotion, one person could have 3 or 4 sites going at the same time, or substantially more if he farmed the shooting work out to employees or subcontractors. There was also a healthy dollar to be made in marketing, which unfortunately resulted in a lot of the nasty spam techniques you see today (popunders, spyware toolbars, etc) to push traffic to those sites.

Keep in mind that the vast majority of the players in that market were not terribly ambitious people. They were just people who stumbled on to the idea that they could make cash showing their g/f's cooch online and pay the rent with extra left over for beer and smokes. The big players got started with one or two girls and quickly expanded into large organizations. Silvercash, Cyberotica, Holio, place like that all got started that way.

... and I know this because I used to sell software and contract out to a lot of those guys. The first bit of software I wrote as a freelancer was a traffic sharing program called a "top site" back in the 90s, sold it for $500 a pop. I never got into the content creation end of it but I've seen the whole chain of production from beginning to end so I'm fairly familiar.

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what do these girls make? Not the big name ones that we all know, but random Jane Doe? I still don't get how people make money now. Who sits down and watches a 60 min porn video? I mean dont you, uh, watch what you need and go about your merry way?

Heh... well, a lot of that depends. I'm reluctant to give dollar values for today because the market has changed pretty dramatically with the economy and p2p and all, but back in the day it wasn't completely unusual for girls starting out to turn over $1000/shoot, and the more you were willing to do the more you'd earn.

Porn's kind of a strange business; unless a company invests a lot of time and energy to market you (like Jenna Jameson), you tend to earn LESS as your career progresses. The insatiable desire for the next hot new girl pushes people out of the chain pretty fast, so most porn careers tend to be on the short end. A fun ride (heh) while it lasts, but for a limited time only. Needless to say, a lot of the girls supplement their income through other means, both legitimate and illegitimate... and the ones who don't have a post-industry game plan end up suffering for their lack of foresight.

The majority of money made from adult now is probably still online even though its dwindling, because a lot of people will still pay premium dollar so's to get streamed HD quality and the like. A lot of it also goes out in rentals and sales, which is why places like Vivid can afford to pay the big bucks and put a lot of production value into their stuff rather than a tarp draped over a mouldering couch in a basement somewhere. Various companies also license content for unlimited viewing in hotel chains and clubs. Most also have some sort of live, interactive type service at a premium which brings in a solid amount.

Now I'm curious. Spiro, what sparked your curiosity in this subject.

It's porn. It's everywhere. You never think about this stuff? I still don't understand how people profit from it. It's FREE. FREE PORN. EVERYWHERE. Who the hell cares if their porn is in HD? I dunno. It just boggles my mind.

A lot of people like to watch sex, a lot of people like to record themselves having sex. Sounds like a perfectly equitible arrangement to me. ;)

... but yeah, not as much cash left in the industry as there was back in the day. Now anyone with an iphone and boobs can get online and show how they shake it (usually really, really badly). The barriers to entry that were around in the 90s just don't exist any more, so there's a lot of industry shake-out and consolidation.

I do think about sex all the time, but don't give much thought to porn. But I'm from the era where you had to go in the little back room at the video store to rent them. And I remember before video stores were all over the place you actually had to go to a special shop.

Does anyone remember that short guy with the big wanker and the creepy mustache? Dark black hair and mustache.

I was always told to rent the one about the Green Door. What's behind the green door? Never did rent it and am still curious to this day. What is behind the green door?

Heh, Behind The Green Door is a classic. If you can find it, watch it. It's completely unlike any other porn you've ever seen.

Sorta like Naked Lunch, if the lunch was peen or vag.

And short dude, moustache, dark hair... that's gotta be Ron Jeremy aka The Hedgehog.

Thanks Hata, now I've got to go looking for Behind the Green Door again.

The Hedgehog, yes, that's him. Too funny. We have an acquaintenance who looks like that other dude that was in films with HH. Every time I see him I think about those old porn movies.

Did you ever watch any of the Debbie Does Dallas flicks?

 

A looooooooong time ago. It's almost like a different world back then. Body hair. Stretch marks. No condoms. Watching porn from the early 80s and older is almost a form of cultural anthropology.

Edit - and before implants!

Oh Gawd, I remember the body hair. HH had a bunch of it. Nobody shaved, but some of the girls trimmed.

And you're right, no implants. All the boobs jiggled.

The porn industry is going to get insane once we have 3D televisions. You'll be forced to pay for it and people definitely will. Hell, I'd pay for it!

Oh hell yeah. If there's a new technology out there, its inevitable that people somewhere will find a way to either **** it, **** using it or **** while it watches.

Reliable as tides and the dawn.

yeah i too can't wait to see some dude's wang poking me in the face in 3d.

I suspect that a lot of the revenue from the "free" sites comes from the same place that other "free" sites such as caloriecount generate their revenues -- ADVERTISING.

A lot of the 'free' sites, places like those youtube-style ones, some comes from advertising but most of it comes from kickbacks to larger membership sites. Membership sites submit clips, people sign up via referral from the free site, free site gets a couple bucks.

A lot of the free sites are run by people with a collection of membership sites as a means to drive traffic as well. It's not overly difficult to set one up once you have the technology down.

I get the advertising thing, that makes a lot of sense.

The teaser clips for bigger, pay sites though-not so much. Like redtube. There are 20 min clips on there. I mean how long does it take to rub one out

Original Post by spirochete:

:/ you could make $4k a month at Burger King. That was the porn heyday? How many sites would actually make over $10k/mo? Why do you know this?

Who could?

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