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Old People Scare Me


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I drive a lot and have come to the conclusion that everyone over 65 should have to take a road test (WITH AN INSTRUCTOR) every 4 years to renew their license.

Why take the expressway if you're too scared to go more than 45 mph?

Is it really necessary to slow down to 2 mph to turn the corner?
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My mom and dad got hit in a crosswalk by an 89-year old guy.  Dad came out ok but Mom broke both her legs and an arm.  Old guy had a ticket for something similar (distracted driving or something) just a couple weeks before.  This was a couple of years ago, everybody is fine now, no idea if the old guy is still driving.

I'm sure the loss of independence is just one of many, many things that sucks when you get old.

Original Post by lostpumpkins:

Original Post by lgilliammk:

I understand that losing a license = losing independence but some cling to their independence far too long. There comes a time when you just have to let go and allow others to help.


That's a lot easier said than done.

Imagine how you would feel if your independence was taken away now.  Then imagine how much sadder and more humiliating and frustrating it would be after another fifty or sixty years of having that independence.

I actually have said this before in the Lounge, I truly believe there should be a maximum driving age, just like there is a minimum.  You would be tested every few years after 70... but once you hit 80 or 85...  no license, no matter what.  Your reactions are slower, your vision is probably not as good, you more than likely can't turn your head far or fast enough to check your blind spot...  It's just time to let go.

Original Post by purespark:

Original Post by stargazer1:

My grandpa just turned 86.  I wish they would have taken his license about 6 years ago.  He's fallen asleep at the wheel a few times now and ended up in the median...  :/

...and that's when, since the state isn't stepping in, the family needs to take his car keys.

Sucks.

Yeah, I tried to say something, but I'm just a judgmental b**** in their eyes :/

Yeah, it's a touchy subject, I'm sure.

Trust me I know this all too well. My dad has retinitis pigmentosa. I take him grocery shopping every other week. He's constantly bumping into things with the cart and can barely read the label on a soup can. He renewed his license by mail last year and still drives himself on "good eye days" for short distances. It scares me but he too is holding on. It's heartbreaking but necessary.

i know some elderly people that can hardly stand up from their electric cart at the grocery store to get into their cars. i feel bad for them, but if their legs/feet are that bad off, they shouldn't be driving.

my granny got into an awful car wreck a few years ago. she accidentally hit the gas instead of the brakes and wrapped her car around a tree. she's got really bad ankles/feet and the wreck made her realize she shouldn't be driving... so she gave up her license. she said she didn't want to risk wrecking again and hurting someone besides herself.

it's sad that we're all going to have to give up that bit of our independence some day, but i'd rather ask for a ride than kill someone. :/

 

Yeah, that's a good idea in theory.

But it can be really traumatic and hurtful and feel like disrespect to a person who has lived more life than the people telling them what they can and cannot do.

People are very insensitive towards the elderly.  They are treated like infants, talked to like they are incompetent and stupid, taken advantage of and used.  That's why, in those last stages of life, some of them will cling so fiercly to every shred of independence they have.  Once they give it up, they are more vulnerable, have less privacy and less say in the direction of their life.

I just hate the whole, "Get off the road, old geezer!" mentality.  That old geezer very well might have fought in a war or owned a company or raised 12 kids or invented something we use every day.  At the very least, they've made it to "Old Geezer" status, so they deserve credit for that in itself.

Rant...complete.

Yeah, that's a good idea in theory.

But it can be really traumatic and hurtful and feel like disrespect to a person who has lived more life than the people telling them what they can and cannot do.

People are very insensitive towards the elderly.  They are treated like infants, talked to like they are incompetent and stupid, taken advantage of and used.  That's why, in those last stages of life, some of them will cling so fiercly to every shred of independence they have.  Once they give it up, they are more vulnerable, have less privacy and less say in the direction of their life.

I just hate the whole, "Get off the road, old geezer!" mentality.  That old geezer very well might have fought in a war or owned a company or raised 12 kids or invented something we use every day.  At the very least, they've made it to "Old Geezer" status, so they deserve credit for that in itself.

Rant...complete.

Original Post by loofahsaurus:

 she accidentally hit the gas instead of the brakes and wrapped her car around a tree. 

 

My husband had to fix a local steak N shake last year because an elderly man did something like this.... Only he drove straight through the breezeway, then backed his car out, parked (in the handicap space btw), acted like nothing happened, went inside, sat down, and ordered food.

The manager had to come out and be like ummmm wtf?

ETA: I forgot to mention that he also jumped a parking block with both wheels AND managed to miss the safety polls.

Original Post by lostpumpkins:

Yeah, that's a good idea in theory.

But it can be really traumatic and hurtful and feel like disrespect to a person who has lived more life than the people telling them what they can and cannot do.

People are very insensitive towards the elderly.  They are treated like infants, talked to like they are incompetent and stupid, taken advantage of and used.  That's why, in those last stages of life, some of them will cling so fiercly to every shred of independence they have.  Once they give it up, they are more vulnerable, have less privacy and less say in the direction of their life.

I just hate the whole, "Get off the road, old geezer!" mentality.  That old geezer very well might have fought in a war or owned a company or raised 12 kids or invented something we use every day.  At the very least, they've made it to "Old Geezer" status, so they deserve credit for that in itself.

Rant...complete.

That's why I said there should be a cut off age for everyone.  I agree that some people can be insensitive towards them, but at some point you have to draw a line in the sand for people's safety.

In the UK if you have a medical condition which could impede your driving ability your GP has to by law notify the DVLA.

There are plenty of people on the roads who just shouldn't be...nothing to do with age!

Original Post by lostpumpkins:

Yeah, that's a good idea in theory.

But it can be really traumatic and hurtful and feel like disrespect to a person who has lived more life than the people telling them what they can and cannot do.

People are very insensitive towards the elderly.  They are treated like infants, talked to like they are incompetent and stupid, taken advantage of and used.  That's why, in those last stages of life, some of them will cling so fiercly to every shred of independence they have.  Once they give it up, they are more vulnerable, have less privacy and less say in the direction of their life.

I just hate the whole, "Get off the road, old geezer!" mentality.  That old geezer very well might have fought in a war or owned a company or raised 12 kids or invented something we use every day.  At the very least, they've made it to "Old Geezer" status, so they deserve credit for that in itself.

Rant...complete.

To the bolded... that makes me sick. I cannot tell you how many times people have taken advantage of my mommom just because she's a nice, sweet, naive, genuine, i-trust-you, old woman. It makes me see red.

We've got kind of a crappy mass transit system down here. It sucks, because we have so many retirees that would probably benefit from a good one.

Where i used to live there were mandatory car checks to be done, depending on the condition/age of your car. Would be the ideal time to make sure nobody drives off with unpaid dues, not working lights and a perfect check to test someone's driving skills.

The thing is if you were to pick an age above which people are no longer capable of driving that number would have to be so high that it would not do what is intended. I know people over 90 that are still perfectly capable of driving.  Do you tell them they are to old?  I can see having health requirements, vision we have now, but to establish an age is impossible.  Heck, I know a lady that is 105 years old and doesn't look or act a day over 75.

If we could keep all the 16 to 65 year olds without legal driving licenses off the road that would do much more for making the roads safer than keeping the elderly from getting behind the wheel would.

Around here, there's a process where if a cop tickets and elderly person and thinks their driving ability needs to be reviewed, they make a referral to the Dept of Licensing.  DOL sends them a notice to come in and retest or their license will be suspended.  If they can't pass the test, they have to surrender their license.

It's a good idea, but it certainly was upsetting to the 85 year old WWII vet in my office who had received such a notice after being involved in a minor fender bender.

My grandpa voluntarily stopped driving at about 82.  Grandma still drives at 80, but she's pretty on top of things and in fantastic shape.  I have so much respect for my grandparents - gonna see them this Sunday for Easter dinner. :)

Original Post by lostpumpkins:

Original Post by lgilliammk:

I understand that losing a license = losing independence but some cling to their independence far too long. There comes a time when you just have to let go and allow others to help.


That's a lot easier said than done.

Imagine how you would feel if your independence was taken away now.  Then imagine how much sadder and more humiliating and frustrating it would be after another fifty or sixty years of having that independence.

Not to mention that a lot of elderly people don't have family nearby - kids had to move away to take jobs, etc.

Some communities seem to have thought about this, and they have these little buses that pick old people up and take them places and then bring them back home. It's like a subscription service or something. They always look so happy when they arrive at the K&W.

But other communities don't have anything like this. So the old people who live in those places, and whose kids live across the country, they'd become shut-ins and the only people who would know about them at all would be the meals on wheels folks and the people at their church, if they're lucky enough to have a church.

Original Post by trh:

The thing is if you were to pick an age above which people are no longer capable of driving that number would have to be so high that it would not do what is intended. I know people over 90 that are still perfectly capable of driving.  Do you tell them they are to old?  I can see having health requirements, vision we have now, but to establish an age is impossible.  Heck, I know a lady that is 105 years old and doesn't look or act a day over 75.

If we could keep all the 16 to 65 year olds without legal driving licenses off the road that would do much more for making the roads safer than keeping the elderly from getting behind the wheel would.

I also know 12 and 14 year olds that could pass for 16-18 and are more mature than many of them... Does that mean we should also make an exception for them to get a license early?

Original Post by trh:

The thing is if you were to pick an age above which people are no longer capable of driving that number would have to be so high that it would not do what is intended. I know people over 90 that are still perfectly capable of driving.  Do you tell them they are to old?  I can see having health requirements, vision we have now, but to establish an age is impossible.  Heck, I know a lady that is 105 years old and doesn't look or act a day over 75.

If we could keep all the 16 to 65 year olds without legal driving licenses off the road that would do much more for making the roads safer than keeping the elderly from getting behind the wheel would.

I agree, and would like to add all the uninsured drivers...huge problem over here.

Original Post by lgilliammk:

I understand that losing a license = losing independence but some cling to their independence far too long. There comes a time when you just have to let go and allow others to help.

Not everyone has others to help.  The bus only goes so many places at so many times and it's usually not subsidized enough to make it all that cheap.  Taxi's don't go very far on Social Security.  If you're fortunate to have sufficient funds that's great, but the vast majority of seniors earned their retirement funds when wages were significantly lower.

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