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Overweight poor people are undeserving?


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I was watching the show "Secret Millionare" where this millionare goes aroud to see who helps out in poor communities and then gives away a bunch of money. When she was doing the soup kitchen and meal delivery (to people who cant afford food) I couldn't help but notice majority of them were overweight.

I feel LIKE A TERRIBLE person for thinking this. But why are they fat if they can barely afford food? Shouldn't they look pretty thin? To be honest I wouldn't give my money or make food for people who could live off there fat storages for awhile.

Has anyone else ever thought this? I've noticed it a lot of times I've seen documentaries/shows on poor areas and soup kitchens. 

Edited Mar 13 2011 21:33 by coach_k
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Original Post by iheartalmonds:

I was watching the show "Secret Millionare" where this millionare goes aroud to see who helps out in poor communities and then gives away a bunch of money. When she was doing the soup kitchen and meal delivery (to people who cant afford food) I couldn't help but notice majority of them were overweight.

I feel LIKE A TERRIBLE person for thinking this. But why are they fat if they can barely afford food? Shouldn't they look pretty thin? To be honest I wouldn't give my money or make food for people who could live off there fat storages for awhile.

Has anyone else ever thought this? I've noticed it a lot of times I've seen documentaries/shows on poor areas and soup kitchens. 

...Uh...sorry that the poverty-stricken don't look like you think they should? Do you really think that people who could afford food would go to a soup kitchen to eat?

If you've noticed it so many times, shouldn't that tell you something? Think about the most affordable kinds of food: white bread, egg noodles, ramen, hamburger helper, cookies, chips, etc. Couple this with the fact that most people don't know what constitutes a decent portion-size and...there you go. Overweight, poor people.

In all honesty, the poorest people I've encountered have been, almost exclusively, overweight. I saw my first jabbering homeless man in Walgreen's a few days ago. He bought a big package of off-brand .99 cookies. Probably more calories than he needs in a day for .99 and he probably ate the whole thing.

 edit: Just adding that I don't think all poor people are overweight. I think I made that plain, but just clarifying. :P

I was going to say the same thing, but you said it all perfectly.

 

The problem often isn't lack of calories; it's lack of nutrients. 

fatty foods that cause weight gain are cheap, healthy food isn't, it's for them probably a source of comfort as well and not knowing how to take care of their bodies

I used to have a friend who lived in a rundown trailer home, her whole family was obese(herself morbidly so) and half of them were diabetics. It's as people described on this thread: cheap and convenient foods are often the unhealthiest. It will cost you an arm and a leg for fresh produce these days. I also agree with knoppie in saying that people in sad circumstances will often draw comfort from food as well.

The sad thing is that they know no better and aren't educated enough in nutrition. The aforementioned girl's mother was telling me how she had lost 70lb while she was in hospital and, this was while she was munching on a chicken cheeseburger, she had 'no idea' how the weight just came back on after a couple months back home.

It's mind boggling to think that poverty in western countries = obesity, whereas there are struggling Ethiopians who look like death.. but like everything there's reason behind it. In any case, both scenarios are just as deadly, and both require adequate nutrition via soup kitchens and whathaveyou.

Original Post by iheartalmonds:

I was watching the show "Secret Millionare" where this millionare goes aroud to see who helps out in poor communities and then gives away a bunch of money. When she was doing the soup kitchen and meal delivery (to people who cant afford food) I couldn't help but notice majority of them were overweight.

I feel LIKE A TERRIBLE person for thinking this. But why are they fat if they can barely afford food? Shouldn't they look pretty thin? To be honest I wouldn't give my money or make food for people who could live off there fat storages for awhile.

Has anyone else ever thought this? I've noticed it a lot of times I've seen documentaries/shows on poor areas and soup kitchens. 

i wouldn't give my money to privileged, judgmental, uninformed people who can't spell and punctuate, so i guess we're even.

Well I wasn't saying I am any more deserving than them..... ^

And just wondering, where did I make a spelling error?

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Just wow.  Uneducated, small minded, judgmental and you were thinking you "felt" like a terrible person...well you opened your mouth and proved it.  

I wish I could live off of my fat storages. I'd save a bundle on food. *rolls eyes*

Original Post by iheartalmonds:

Well I wasn't saying I am any more deserving than them..... ^

And just wondering, where did I make a spelling error?

"...live off there fat storages..."

Original Post by iheartalmonds:

I was watching the show "Secret Millionare"

should be "Millionaire"

 

Pg? I can't find the documentary but I'm sure you know the Canadian one I'm thinking of. It dealt specifically with nutrition & being homeless. It was proven that cheap, high carbohydrate based diets were actually what homeless people needed because they are on their feet, constantly on the move for basic survival. A well meaning nutritionist tried to load them up on "healthier" ie: more veggies & fruits but that wasn't actually in their best interest.

i don't know that one, buggy. but obviously it's pretty hard to spend your money on a week's worth of fresh food when you don'g have a fridge to take it home to. so, yeah, it's one meal at a time.

and strange as it seems, the inner cities in the US seem to have many of the same issues that our remote communities do: virtually no availability. the retailers just can't/won't stock fresh foods.

Original Post by pgeorgian:

i don't know that one, buggy. but obviously it's pretty hard to spend your money on a week's worth of fresh food when you don't have a fridge to take it home to. so, yeah, it's one meal at a time.

and strange as it seems, the inner cities in the US seem to have many of the same issues that our remote communities do: virtually no availability. the retailers just can't/won't stock fresh foods.

Yeah, add to that the fact that most don't have access to a stove/oven, either. They make the best with what they have.

Original Post by iheartalmonds:

Well I wasn't saying I am any more deserving than them..... ^

 

But you began a thread titled:

"Overweight poor people are undeserving?"

That this is even a question is an index of how crass this post is.  "Undeserving" compared to whom?  "Undeserving" of what?  And who is fit to decide?

This is ugly on so many levels.

Wow, obviously you have never been so poor that you had to live out of your cupboard on pasta and rice.  Lucky, lucky you. 

Original Post by buggyhair:

Pg? I can't find the documentary but I'm sure you know the Canadian one I'm thinking of. It dealt specifically with nutrition & being homeless. It was proven that cheap, high carbohydrate based diets were actually what homeless people needed because they are on their feet, constantly on the move for basic survival. A well meaning nutritionist tried to load them up on "healthier" ie: more veggies & fruits but that wasn't actually in their best interest.

For what its worth, you really don't move around all that much. I mean yeah, when you want to get from one place to another it's either by bus or you walk, but it's not like every homeless person is suddenly doing a marathon's worth of foot travel in a day. Most time spent when you're homeless is flat out waiting: waiting in SI offices, waiting for food, waiting at the UI office for labourer work to show up, waiting for low income housing to open up...

I'd suspect that the high carb thing is more because the weather tends to be colder here, and you need more energy just to survive and maintain body heat.

... and to the OP: I've met far more rich people undeserving of their wealth than poor people deserving of their poverty.

I saw a documentary on TV (can't recall the name - damnit) of a guy who used to be homeless, but wasn't at the time he was interviewed. He said that he was always fatter when he was homeless because he would eat the garbage from pizza places or fast food restaurants when they dumped the leftovers at night.

He didn't know when he would eat next, so he also binged his guts out on the pizza or fastfood when it was available.

Original Post by iheartalmonds: To be honest I wouldn't give my money or make food for people who could live off there fat storages for awhile.


What? You think if someone has excess weight, they aren't entitled to the basic human right to eat, but should instead go through torture? Fat people don't magically turn their body fat into nutrients. Burning off fat is a crisis thing your body does to stay alive, but not by any degree of quality of life. And it doesn't do it efficiently, nor without bad consequences. I'm a bit shocked that you can't see this obvious fact but just because you're overweight, does not mean you're not hungry.

I'm not overweight, but I've spent days where I was unable to eat due to being sick, despite being starving hungry, and then to eat small portions because it was medically advised not to overload a stomach that had been basically empty for a week (even intubation didn't work, I ended up being fed intravenuously). Let me tell you I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. If you're hungry to the point of starvation, that's it. All you think about is food, all you want is food, and it feels bloody awful. When my mum later snuck in some chicken, let me tell you I ended up scarfing down the food like I was a mad animal or something.

I strongly urge you to do some empathy exercises. Imagine yourself in somebody else's shoes, who to you seems more or less fortunate.

Original Post by suzushii:

If you're hungry to the point of starvation, that's it. All you think about is food, all you want is food, and it feels bloody awful.

Just a little note to add: when someone is starving, they smell like apple cider. That's the smell of your body turning muscle into ketones. If you meet a homeless person who reeks of cider, he's not drunk. He's dying.

For want of the price of tea and a slice...

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