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Should Parents be Punished for Raising Obese Children?


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During colonial times in New England, parents would be publicly humiliated by placing their heads and arms in stocks in the town square if their children were unable to read the King James Bible (considered a 12th grade reading level) by a specific age (10-12 years old, I believe).  As a result, the literacy rate was approximately 99%.

Should parents be punished for allowing their children to become obese?  Technically, they aren't adults until the age of 18, so should their parents be held responsible for their poor health.

Obviously, genetic factors and conditions can affect this.  Similarly, children with handicaps weren't subject to the same reading requirements during the colonial times either.

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Original Post by floggingsully:

Original Post by eddiepotter:

 eeeehhhhh...mom's 400LBS...dad's around 600LBS....that would pretty much be genetic...

 Nobody weighs 400 or 600 lbs because of their genes, they weigh that much because they eat too much.

 There are always exceptions.

yes, eddie, there are exceptions.  the very rare exceptions are the people who have metabolic or hormonal disorders.  those whose obesity reflects lifestyle are the norm.

Parents should be held accountable one hundred percent,imho. Punishment isn't always the answer, but accountablity is a must.  Humiliation? No. There is a way to enforce action upon parents. It would be in the best interest of the children to make it a requirement for parents. Children do not ask to be born and we aren't forced to take on the responsiblity. The choice to become a parent should be taken far more seriously. Their is no excuse to wave off our accountabilty to our children. It would be in the best interest of children all around the world. To improve children's health is to ensure the health of our future. Even if you do not have children it should seem like sound logic from an outside prospective. It's productive to bring the issue to the attention of the parents. Once aware they should be given a chance to resolve the matter. Awareness: First 

 After they're aware/given some guidance to handle the progress they should be observed. At that point there is still no excuse for a lack of regard to their childrens health. They're no longer uninformed since they were forced to become informed. ( It should be a requirement from the very start, imo.) It's our job as a parent to be informed. We make it our busniess to know/learn for the best interest of our child. It should be a requirement to keep your children in good health with consquences. Physical and mental. Parents should be informed of potential repercussions. Made aware that they will be held accountable for enflicting health risks upon their child/children. That way they're fully aware of the consquence.  ( For themselves as well as the health risks for their child/children in question. ) There is no excuse to amend negligence from a parent. They should be held accountable for their parenting. Period.

A parent should make their priority in the best interest of their child. The day you become in charge of  another life it's yours #1. It becomes more important than that of your own. Or should,imo.  Someone doesn't leave it up to fate with an infant. You research/learn and look for guidance. That way you know how much and how often to give in feedings. It's your job as a parent to do this in all areas because you're accountable/responsible for the child. . . UNTIL that child is all grown up! :) 

there was a show on for a short while called "Honey we're killing the kids" (or something like that)

it took a family and changed everything...diets, excersise...and got them started in the right direction.  It was kinds cool.

 

Original Post by enchantingimage:

Parents should be held accountable one hundred percent,imho. Punishment isn't always the answer, but accountablity is a must.  Humiliation? No. There is a way to enforce action upon parents. It would be in the best interest of the children to make it a requirement for parents. Children do not ask to be born and we aren't forced to take on the responsiblity. The choice to become a parent should be taken far more seriously. Their is no excuse to wave off our accountabilty to our children. It would be in the best interest of children all around the world. To improve children's health is to ensure the health of our future. Even if you do not have children it should seem like sound logic from an outside prospective. It's productive to bring the issue to the attention of the parents. Once aware they should be given a chance to resolve the matter. Awareness: First 

 After they're aware/given some guidance to handle the progress they should be observed. At that point there is still no excuse for a lack of regard to their childrens health. They're no longer uninformed since they were forced to become informed. ( It should be a requirement from the very start, imo.) It's our job as a parent to be informed. We make it our busniess to know/learn for the best interest of our child. It should be a requirement to keep your children in good health. Physical and mental. Parents should be informed of potential repercussions. Made aware that they will be held accountable for enflicting health risks upon their child/children. That way they're fully aware of the consquence.  ( For themselves as well as the health risks for their child/children in question. ) There is no excuse to amend negligence from a parent. They should be held accountable for their parenting. Period.

A parent should make their priority in the best interest of their child. The day you become in charge of  another life it's yours #1. It becomes more important than that of your own. Or should,imo.  Someone doesn't leave it up to fate with an infant you research/learn and look for guidance. That way you know how much and how often to give in feedings. It's your job as a parent to do this in all areas because you're accountable/responsible for the child. . . UNTIL that child is all grown up! :)

 well...she says it better than I do...hehhe good ol' enchantingimage...lol

Yes, parents should be held accountable!!

I think fast food chains should be held accountable as well. Most of them advertise "healthier" choices for on the go familes... well what family nowadays isnt on the go or strapped for cash that makes the $1. mcnuggets look awful good??!!??


I do see many stars pitching in and making commercials about eating fruits and vegtables and "spend time at the family table" campaings so it is a start. I think they need to encorporate more healthy living ideas for kids AND parents in the schools too.

How would you hold parents accountable without punishment?

No one is arguing that parents don't have an obligation to properly care for their kids, but state agencies can't guarantee that children are protected from physical abuse let alone try to enforce some sort of weight monitoring system that hold parents accountable.

Teach kids now how to be good parents - just like making them take driver's ed or American government - make parenting with a segment on sound nutrition and tools for inspiring healthy living a requirement of graduation.

Teach kids now how to pick and choose food and show them the effects of bad choices in elementary school.

Ban all fast food from school cafeterias.

Bring back Physical Education in elementary school.

 

Original Post by kathygator:

Bring back Physical Education in elementary school. 

 I know I am hopelessly out-of-touch, but I didn't know that P.E. was discontinued!  How on earth could anyone decide that was a good idea??

No pe at your kids' school?? I live in Southern California where half of the kindergarteners at her "zoned" school dont speak english, so I put my daughter in a private school where there is pe, music, computers, spanish and french. I guess I am used to her getting all those extra activities I missed what else public schools lacked.

I did hear that they were cutting most music and drama departments in California schools though..

where are our tax dollars going??.. its getting ridiculous that kids cant get a healthy meal and some excersize at school!!

is very thankful for our schools where they have PE at least 2x a week and healthy lunch options!

 

Original Post by purespark:

Original Post by kathygator:

Bring back Physical Education in elementary school. 

 I know I am hopelessly out-of-touch, but I didn't know that P.E. was discontinued!  How on earth could anyone decide that was a good idea??

 Evidenty Florida's school boards. I told you school boards are the debbil. :)

i think that was a ridiculous comment to punish the parents of an anorexic, the parents are not with holding food from the kid.  the kid is starving him or herself against the parents wishes.

i'm sure the 'obese' kid is eating beyond the parents wishes as well.

i am not a parent so this doesn't apply towards me nor did my parents raise overweight or obese kids.  i am assuming a parent is not happy the kid is obese.  they should told to get the kid counseling and a dietitian as the anorexics parents are.  in fact they should be required to get it at least a consultation.

the kid should be held accountable for their own actions - certainly a teenager!!

Original Post by sfredbull:

 

the kid should be held accountable for their own actions - certainly a teenager!!

  A parent holds a child accountable to them in turn being an accountable parent. Seriously. Those that aren't interested in accountablity being their domain shouldn't become parents,imho.

Yes they should! then banished to the naughty corner until they are ready to apologise...

Original Post by kathygator:

How would you hold parents accountable without punishment?  Enfored regulation amongst children's health. Forced requirements for Parental Awareness too. Phsyical and Mental. Certain requirements could be in place so the children are observed through school,ect. It could be through doctor checkups or by the school nurses. Gym Teachers, ect. Either,both, or all. It should be a requirement for all parents to show  accountiblity. There is a choice to meet requirements. A lack of regard has repercussions. Period! To the child and to the parents in question. The quote " Punishment " is strickly on the child as things stand. They're punished by having unaccountable parental figures. 

 Parents have a choice. They do not have an excuse as parents,imo. Their authority/accountablity trumps that of a childs on the pyramid. The sad reality is that some children need this badly. Some parent will never speak up/ or take action on the behalf of their child/childrens best interest. It's plain and simple child abuse, imo.

No one is arguing that parents don't have an obligation to properly care for their kids, but state agencies can't guarantee that children are protected from physical abuse let alone try to enforce some sort of weight monitoring system that hold parents accountable.  Says you. It's easy to say oooh we can't. That has a slim chance in hell so there is no way to enforce regulations that would stand/work. The truth is nothing works perfectly. However, doing nothing doesn't work. That has been proven already! It's another excuse used to neglect incorperating change.

Teach kids now how to be good parents - just like making them take driver's ed or American government - make parenting with a segment on sound nutrition and tools for inspiring healthy living a requirement of graduation.   The school system can be given regulations to do their part. However, it comes down to parents doing their part too! I'm saying: Reverse that. Teach parents to be good parents. There's nothing like blaming others to use as an excuse. Too many parents expect the ' system ' to raise their kids for them. To teach them morals,ethics, values, eating habits ect.  It's like blaming the your kids friends for the way your child dresses. Nupe. Who's money was used? The truth of the matter is it's the parents job to be the biggest influance in their child's world. The shame all falls at the parental figures feet. It's their job! Parents should meet Requirements/Regulations in turn teaching their children. The problem is parental requirements on their own terms aren't up to par with the needs of their children.  It would cause people to take the mommy/daddy role a tad more seriously.

Teach kids now how to pick and choose food and show them the effects of bad choices in elementary school.  That's done through charts already expressed throughout school. I'm sure additions could be made though. The core problem is at home so the solution starts there too. The system can help in order to enforce regulations. They aren't there to substitute the job of a parent. The bad choice was on their parents behalf to have a child then throw it at the MERCY of the school system to learn everything. imho

Ban all fast food from school cafeterias.  Or: Ban all fast food when creating your families weekly meal-plan.

Bring back Physical Education in elementary school. Take a walk with your child! Go to the park. There are inexpensive ways to engage in activity with your children.

 

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NO!! parents should not be blamed, i beleive genetics plays a big part in weight gain and also u cant always control a teenagers eating habits, they buy their own lunch at school and working parents arent always home b4 their kids either...my son ahs a terrible weight problem but i cant get him to exercise and he eats three time too much food, i try to keep less food in the house so he has less to eat but i do need to keep food in the house and he helps himself!

Gotta love New England --- here in Massachusetts, if a kid's BMI is over a certain percent they get sent home with a note for the parents.  Obviously the gist is, hey dumbass, you got a fat kid - do something about it!

"A parent holds a child accountable to them in turn being an accountable parent. "

thats true.
certainly though anorexia is a mental illness and hardly a parents fault, in most circumstances!!  all the parent can really do is get the kid professional help.

i feel weight should be addressed by the personal pediatrician and when the doctors diet advice isn't helping the issue and they are going towards obesity they need to be referred for additional help.  i personally feel if a child is eating to obesity there must be a problem. 

Remember, lots of folks are having cash issues and starch is cheap. Fresh fruits and veggies are way more expensive. How cheap is rice and beans or ramen noodles? High cal, starchy butt builder.

I agree that parents of obese kids should be held to account, but it may be as simple as sending the child -if older than 12 or so... and the parents to nutrition classes and healthy cooking seminars (where you cook not just look at a booklet).

Underweight scares me. I think that's easier to hide.

I can't think of another measure that I've seen proposed here that would make the lives of fat kids WORSE than this one would.

Parents hounding them about their weight, from fear of being punished, would make their self-esteem and lives worse in so many ways. When I was a fat kid my mother NEVER told me to lose weight, always told me I was beautiful. I slimmed down in adolescence, in part because I still had the self-esteem to do so. I thank GOD that I never had parents like a lot of my chubby friends, who were "monitored" and "managed" and whose self-worth took a serious hit.

Plus, talk about focusing on external b.s. You aren't proposing punishing parents for their kids being little jerkwads, or obnoxious brats, or really disruptive or deliberately dumb, or cruel to other kids, or whatever. There are so many qualities, or lack thereof, that are more important than someone's weight.

Have any of you who think this is a good idea actually BEEN overweight kids? Would this work? Hell no. Would it wreak untold damage? Hell yes. You think we have a lot of kids with problems relating to being excessively weight-focused (i.e. shallow) and/or eating disordered NOW?...

What needs to change is the collective stuff that we can influence - school lunches, food advertising, agricultural subsidies that have the effect of drowning the country in cheap fast and processed food, not to mention more health and nutrition education in schools (and calorie counts on restaurant menus, like in NYC, are nice, too). Going after individual parents, who may have other problems that you are not touching by this punitive approach? Bad idea.

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