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Do you trust Obama?


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I certainly do not !
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Original Post by cincy46runner:

...don't feel he's qualified to serve in this position...

To be qualified to serve as president one must:

1) be a natural born citizen of the US

2) be at least 35 years old

3) have been a permanent resident of the US for at least 14 years

Which of these qualifications do you feel has hasn't met?

Original Post by caverlady:

I really don't trust any politicians.  I believe that you can always tell when a politician's lying because he/her mouth is moving.  That said, I'll probably be voting for the Republican (most lilkely Romney) because he's not Obama.

Would Romney choosing someone like Palin change your mind?

Original Post by floggingsully:

Original Post by cincy46runner:

...don't feel he's qualified to serve in this position...

To be qualified to serve as president one must:

1) be a natural born citizen of the US

2) be at least 35 years old

3) have been a permanent resident of the US for at least 14 years

Which of these qualifications do you feel has hasn't met?


I meet all these legal requirements myself, but I am not qualified to serve as the President.  Why?  I have no political experience, no leadership experience (at this level), no foreign policy experience.  Neither does Obama.  If this is what you're basing your opinion on who you are going to vote for the position of President, I feel sorry for you. 

POTUS has more job experience at being president than Romney has. By your own ruler, he should be your choice.

Original Post by kathygator:

Original Post by caverlady:

I really don't trust any politicians.  I believe that you can always tell when a politician's lying because he/her mouth is moving.  That said, I'll probably be voting for the Republican (most lilkely Romney) because he's not Obama.

Would Romney choosing someone like Palin change your mind?

I don't know.  I'd have to think long and hard about that one.  I like Palin as a person, but never thought she had the political chops for the job.  I'd really like to see Rubio, but he keeps saying he's not interested.  I guess that's subject to change.  I've heard Jeb Bush's name tossed around, but the country might still be weary of the "Bush brand."

Rubio would, IMO, be a good choice. He still has a little Tea Party left on him, to attract that vote, and possibly his Latino heritage would at least get conservative Latinos back.

And as someone who prefers moderates and hopes for good candidates on both sides of the race, I'd have no trouble with a Romney/Rubio ticket. POTUS would have a tougher time, but that's fine by me.

Original Post by floggingsully:

Original Post by cincy46runner:

...don't feel he's qualified to serve in this position...

To be qualified to serve as president one must:

1) be a natural born citizen of the US

2) be at least 35 years old

3) have been a permanent resident of the US for at least 14 years

Which of these qualifications do you feel has hasn't met?

Well, far be it for me to point out the obvious but........

Oh, nevermind, it's been done to death.Cool

Now you're just tryin' too hard. ;P

NO , I do not trust Obama.  I don't like him, don't trust him and at this point, I would vote for Mickey Mouse to get rid of him. He is the worst president ever for sure.

4 more years of him and there will be little left of this once great country

 

Original Post by kathygator:

POTUS has more job experience at being president than Romney has. By your own ruler, he should be your choice.


And by your own ruler, _________________ (fill in the blank) should be your choice.   

Original Post by cnichols2000:

Original Post by kevinatthebrook:

I love him.

ETA: Never let your never paid taxes, only went to public school listening to bleeding heart liberal teachers teenage son use your computer while you are logged onto cc.

I LLOLed.

(Literally LOLed)

Had to read it twice. And then spit tea all over self, desk and monitor and then started choking and laughing at the same time.  Laughing

I think Buck's post made my day.

(But it's early yet.)

Original Post by cincy46runner:

Original Post by kathygator:

POTUS has more job experience at being president than Romney has. By your own ruler, he should be your choice.


And by your own ruler, _________________ (fill in the blank) should be your choice.   

??

Do you mean, that you want to know my opinion, or was that simply a parry?

Original Post by kathygator:

Rubio would, IMO, be a good choice. He still has a little Tea Party left on him, to attract that vote, and possibly his Latino heritage would at least get conservative Latinos back.

And as someone who prefers moderates and hopes for good candidates on both sides of the race, I'd have no trouble with a Romney/Rubio ticket. POTUS would have a tougher time, but that's fine by me.

I agree about Rubio.  He'd bring a lot to the ticket and would probably cause a sleepless night or two for POTUS.  Chris Christie is interesting, but I'm not sure he's ready for the job.  I don't think Ryan would be a good choice because he's already under fire for the budget.  The Obama campaign has had the chance to take shots at him already.  This morning I heard a commentator mention Bobby Jindal, and my response was, "really?"  McDonnell was interesting until he gave his support to a bill forcing a woman to have a TV ultrasound before she would have an abortion.  I really don't know enough about Haley, but she seem to be pretty controversial.

I'm glad there's plenty of time to think about it.  What surprises me is that some of my more conservative friends are contemplating voting for Obama because Romney's not conservative enough for them.  Isn't that biting off your nose to spite your face? 

**facepalm**

Honestly, I would have preferred Jeb as the nom, but as you said the Bush brand is still suffering.

My sense is that Rubio has the same kind of intellect and charisma as POTUS - Christie strikes me as a guy with skeletons in his closet for some reason. Maybe it's because it's, you know, New Jersey. ;)

Original Post by kathygator:

Christie strikes me as a guy with skeletons in his closet for some reason. Maybe it's because it's, you know, New Jersey. ;)


Or horse's heads? ;)

Yeah, plus the fat police would have a field day.

Trust him? sure, why wouldn't I? He hasn't done anything to break my confidence in him, nor has he indicated that he has some super secret islamofacistmuslimsocialistoogaboogacomunists atanic plan to autocratically rule America forever, enslave the white man, and make sweet sweet love to all the white women (I'm 99% sure a subset of the fear and revulsion surrounding Obama is tinged with Mandingo fantasies).

I think Obama has done well on the international and domestic front despite all the childish hand wringing, taunting, and stonewalling from republicans. Took care of Osama, freed the pirate hostages, stopped defending DOMA in court, repealed don't ask don't tell (I know he didn't LITERALLY do this, as it was relegated to other parts of the gov't, but it was under his administration), is trying (albeit clumsily) to get green initiatives started, and he has a plan for the GIANT healthcare problem in this country. Am I fan of this plan? Not really, I'd prefer a public option, but its something, which is better than nothing. Repubs seem to have 'nothing' (oh I'm sorry a few have championed health care savings accounts, ergo, PROBLEM SOLVED), and thus they are revisiting the culture wars, which no one gives a s*** about anymore, at least, no one under the age of 85.

I voted for Obama before, heck, I was in Grant Park on election night (party up in Chi-town). I'll most certainly vote for him again, as I feel he's the candiate who aligns with my interests and concerns.

But then again I am just a bleeding heart, feminist, liberal, woman of color, born and raised in Chicago. He's the first canidate who looks like me, and refelcts a realism that other pesidents/canidates don't. Its been clearly demonstrated that Obama is an 'other'; well, gee, I spent my entire life being an 'other', and to see a fellow 'other' ascend to the presidency is pretty dang neat.

Original Post by kathygator:

Rubio would, IMO, be a good choice. He still has a little Tea Party left on him, to attract that vote, and possibly his Latino heritage would at least get conservative Latinos back.

And as someone who prefers moderates and hopes for good candidates on both sides of the race, I'd have no trouble with a Romney/Rubio ticket. POTUS would have a tougher time, but that's fine by me.


He is also super adorable and saved Nancy Reagan from a bad fall.  I think some women could be swayed as well!!

Original Post by caverlady:
  Isn't that biting off your nose to spite your face? 

It seems counter-intuitive but there is some logic to it. For those folks that hard right, Romney and Obama look alike - they're both moderates. Why not pick the guy that's already doing the job, and let the anti-Obama wave help the GOP take over the Senate?

Some even suggest that on gun rights alone, Obama is the better choice simply because he won't touch the issue, where a republican might because he could get away with it. I'll admit that I'm not certain of that logic, but I've heard it put forward.

Original Post by kathygator:

Original Post by caverlady:
  Isn't that biting off your nose to spite your face? 

It seems counter-intuitive but there is some logic to it. For those folks that hard right, Romney and Obama look alike - they're both moderates. Why not pick the guy that's already doing the job, and let the anti-Obama wave help the GOP take over the Senate?

Some even suggest that on gun rights alone, Obama is the better choice simply because he won't touch the issue, where a republican might because he could get away with it. I'll admit that I'm not certain of that logic, but I've heard it put forward.

Makes sense.  Some think it would be in the better interest of the GOP to take the Senate and not be so concerned about the White House.  I see the logic of that.

I don't dislike POTUS.  I don't believe he's Satan's son, or a Muslim (wouldn't care anyway; there's such a thing as the 1st Amendment), or any of the other crazy things.  I think he cares about people and he tries to make everything fair, which is fundamentally flawed concept.  You can't make everything fair.  Life itself isn't fair.  If it were, I'd be a size 2 and independently wealthy! ;)

No, I don't trust President Obama.

But we're not supposed to have to trust politicians. 

We're supposed to have checks and balances that work to make sure everybody, including every elected official, abides by the law of the land.

But we've kind of abandoned that, leaving us all at the mercy of the politicians. 

It's not just corruption, which we've always had, but the laws themselves now pervert justice (Patriot Act, Patriot Act II, NDAA, the upcoming Enemy Expatriation Act... we are no longer guaranteed due process, plain and simple).

No matter who holds the office of the President, I won't trust them. 

I might  be able to learn to trust President Buddy Roemer, depending on what he does when he gets elected. I would still reserve judgment about whether he can be trusted for at least the first three years of his first term.

 

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