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Are there any other vegetable sources that contain complete protein, except soy and quinoa?

I'm trying to start being vegetarian, because I tried it for one day, and felt lighter than I ever felt in my life. I normally eat meat(usually lean pork) every day, for lunch, plus 2 large glasses of semi-skimmed milk, and, every 2 days, an omlette of 2 eggs. But I have IBS so all the fatty foods I eat make me feel very gassy, crampy and overall, very heavy and uncomfortable. I've had this for 5 years, now, but never tried any diet, because I knew IBS was untreatable.

Last week, I saw this very interesting docu film about animal products and how much damage they do to the body, among other issues that come with following a predominantly animal-based diet, like using up massive amounts of resources, like fresh water and fossil fuel, to grow all the farm animals, which have a short horrible life..anyway, the whole thing was horrific, and I just decided to try the vegan thing for one day, to see how it goes. And I was amazed at how light I felt, no cramps, no gas, no anything. So I am seriously thinking of going vegeterian for life.

 Truth is, westerday was easy, because I drink 2 shakes from Herbalife, so all I did for breakfast and dinner was to replace milk with soy milk(one thing I don't get..how come soy milk is so much more expensive than cow's milk, when soy is supposed to take so much less energy to produce?).

For lunch I had 2 slices of toast, made out of homemade bread, semi-dark. With 100g of salted tofu, and a half a plate of organic cherry tomatoes.

2 organic green apples for dessert.

So, practically, 0 effort in the cooking department. But I'm already stuck...I have to figure out a way to cook yummie vegan meals, otherwise this isn't going to work for me.Care to help with cheap, easy suggestions for beginners?

But, first of all, I'm worried about the protein. I know soya chunks and tofu have lots of protein, but I might get tired of it. I need to get at least 50 grams of protein, even after I stop taking the Herbalife shakes..ideas?

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you really need to look up this guy on youtube, he has a side channel called RAWrawn. Hes currently doing this weight loss thing with his other youtube friends and is eating raw, he does a weekly cooking show thing and that has heaps of ideas

When I was finally feed up with being overweight I gave up all form of meats and dairy milk (I still ate egg whites) and worked my ass of during this time and while I did manage to loose 100lbs I felt like crap afterwards. During this time I did drink a lot of soy milk and used daily protein supplements.


But somehow even though thru supplements, soy milk and other non-meat related protein sources at the end I always felt week and shaky.


Since then I have gone back to a full meat and fat diet. I closely monitor my fat, carb, protein and calorie intake to restrict it to about 2500 calories per day and in the past two and a half months I’ve managed to loose almost another 20lbs and I feel fantastic!

My believe is, If humans managed to survive predominantly on fatty animal meats for tens of thousands of years, then it can’t really be all that bad, given that you eat in moderation and you exercise daily.

Original Post by kryptonian8077:

When I was finally feed up with being overweight I gave up all form of meats and dairy milk (I still ate egg whites) and worked my ass of during this time and while I did manage to loose 100lbs I felt like crap afterwards. During this time I did drink a lot of soy milk and used daily protein supplements.


But somehow even though thru supplements, soy milk and other non-meat related protein sources at the end I always felt week and shaky.


Since then I have gone back to a full meat and fat diet. I closely monitor my fat, carb, protein and calorie intake to restrict it to about 2500 calories per day and in the past two and a half months I’ve managed to loose almost another 20lbs and I feel fantastic!

My believe is, If humans managed to survive predominantly on fatty animal meats for tens of thousands of years, then it can’t really be all that bad, given that you eat in moderation and you exercise daily.

 Likely you were weak due to lack of iron, not protein. If you have to take supplements to eat a veg diet, then you aren't eating a proper diet in general.

Possible, although I was taking daily multi-vitamins and I ate (still do) a ton of veggies and fruit everyday.

Well there are plenty of vegan athletes and bodybuilders that do just fine on a vegan diet. Just because you weren't eating properly doesn't mean everyone will do better eating fatty meat and dairy which are completely unnecessary to be healthy and strong.

Original Post by caseydoll:

Well there are plenty of vegan athletes and bodybuilders that do just fine on a vegan diet. Just because you weren't eating properly doesn't mean everyone will do better eating fatty meat and dairy which are completely unnecessary to be healthy and strong.

Exactly. People blame lack of protein for things, but it's really not that difficult to get protein in a veg diet if you are eating properly to begin with.

Original Post by trancendenz:

Original Post by caseydoll:

Well there are plenty of vegan athletes and bodybuilders that do just fine on a vegan diet. Just because you weren't eating properly doesn't mean everyone will do better eating fatty meat and dairy which are completely unnecessary to be healthy and strong.

Exactly. People blame lack of protein for things, but it's really not that difficult to get protein in a veg diet if you are eating properly to begin with.

 I can not even believe someone feels better eating fatty anything, and agree it is must likely not healthy or the best answer to eat meat- calorie restriction is the only reason besides exercise for the continued weight loss. Iron deficiency will really affect energy, endurance. PERHAPS even a soy intolerance- I live and thrive on non GMO soy, Almond milk, etc but some people would do better with things like lentils/brown rice, oats/flax/almondbutter, spirulina, pea protein, even tempha. There are a plethora of reasons why meat -today- is not healthy as a staple- grass fed, organic and small quantities with a dietprimarily colorful, fresh vegetables, fruit, unprocessed (preferably) gluten free is what has been proven time and time again an unarguably better, most healthy nutritional life style.

http://www.savvyvegetarian.com/articles/get-e nough-protein-veg-diet.php

 

 

Protein will be a non-issue as long as you eat varied foods.  Complimentary proteins don't even need to be eaten in the same meal or day.  If you are planning on going completely vegan (no dairy) be advised that you will need to find a source of Vitamin B12.  B12 can only be obtained from animal products and fortified foods (cereals and such) and supplements.

Original Post by kryptonian8077:

When I was finally feed up with being overweight I gave up all form of meats and dairy milk (I still ate egg whites) and worked my ass of during this time and while I did manage to loose 100lbs I felt like crap afterwards. During this time I did drink a lot of soy milk and used daily protein supplements.


But somehow even though thru supplements, soy milk and other non-meat related protein sources at the end I always felt week and shaky.


Since then I have gone back to a full meat and fat diet. I closely monitor my fat, carb, protein and calorie intake to restrict it to about 2500 calories per day and in the past two and a half months I’ve managed to loose almost another 20lbs and I feel fantastic!

My believe is, If humans managed to survive predominantly on fatty animal meats for tens of thousands of years, then it can’t really be all that bad, given that you eat in moderation and you exercise daily.

Do you happen to know your blood type? I have given up on the idea of being vegan, as well..at first, it made me feel light, but after a few weeks, I started feeling TOO light. And went back to my usual porky foods. I don't eat enough fish, I know that..and I eat only pork and beef from the red meat category..I'm thinking of getting into lamb/mutton, but I'd have to find a good recipe, cause I don't like the taste.

I read that according to blood group dieting, Bs(my group) are "hunters" meaning they greatly benefit from eating lamb, venison, or rabbit meat. I did eat venison once and it was delicious, but you can't buy it at the supermarket. Plus, I don't like the idea of killing the poor things.It also says Bs need dairy more than any other group, which makes sense, cause I love milk, despite being lactose intolerant.

Also, it said that Os should eat meat more than any other group, whereas As would benefit from a vegan diet.

I am Type O, and I haven't eaten red meat or poultry in 6 years.  I also ran about 10 miles this week and swam 3k.

Sorry, but the blood type diet doesn't even deserve the "science" in "junk science."

I absolutely agree lysistrata!

 

What gets me are people who try eating a vegan diet for a few weeks and then decide it isnt for them without really giving it a fair chance.  And some go on to tout how bad a vegan diet is when they have had so little experience with it. 

I have been vegan (not vegetarian but fully vegan) for almost one year now (as of the end of February) which really is nothing in the grand scheme of things.  The first month or so I did feel weaker.  I went vegan overnight for ethical reasons.  There was not a transitional period.  So I was unprepared as far as how to eat a balanced diet and replace what I cut out.  I just knew that I could not support an industry I learned about and that I could not look at animals in the same way after some soul searching and delving into some issues.  However, as time went on I educated myself with many many books and resources out there (from reliable sources) and learned to eat properly as a vegan.  "Becoming Vegan" by Brenda Davis is an excellent book resource for the nutritional aspects of veganism.  She is a registered dietician (http://www.brendadavisrd.com/index.php?code=R esume) and she is very honest and up front about the vegan diet and lifestyle , not making it out to be the cure all to everything, and she backs up her advice with science and is very detailed and specific.  She has also been a vegan herself for many years. 

Not only did I regain my strength (and some weight that I originally lost which I didnt need to lose in the first place) but my energy, stamina, overall health has improved enormously. It just took some time and adjustment for my body. It is not a miracle "diet".  I still get colds like everyone else, but they only last a few days now, not weeks.  I also do not believe a vegan diet is far superior to an omnivore one, but it is as healthy, no less, has it's own set of advantages, and is completely doable for long term.  Vegans can also eat a crap diet full of processed prepackaged foods (I include processed protein shakes and fake cheeses and meats in this category too) as much as omnivores.  We still need to be responsible for our health and take the time to learn to eat well and learn about what we are putting into our bodies. 

Original Post by lysistrata:

I am Type O, and I haven't eaten red meat or poultry in 6 years.  I also ran about 10 miles this week and swam 3k.

Sorry, but the blood type diet doesn't even deserve the "science" in "junk science."

lol...Silly me had bought this book but agree as well- I am 1/2 Sicilian and 1/2 Lithuanian, do not eat meat, poultry, cheese/ dairy, white/refined products/ gluten, processed sausage, nor drink, and have primarily Japanese, Asian and pescatarian foods- !!!

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