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Protein shakes...whey not vegetarian??


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I just read in the Vegetarian Times that whey protein is NOT VEGETARIAN.  What have others heard out there?  I am crushed as over the years I have used whey as a supplement...I have been veggie for over 14 years!!!

I also learned that Guinness is also NOT VEGETARIAN...has anyone heard about that?  Is that just the European warm version or is it true for what they sell here in the States?

Ok, I want to be solution focused here...what other versions of powdered protein do you recommend that is not high calorie or high sugar?

Thanks in advance everyone!!!
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Whey is vegitarian. It is not Vegan.

It's a milk by-product. That's not meat. Is there something that I'm unaware of? Do you have a link to this article?

Very curious
I have the actual magazine and I haven't found an online version yet.  I want more people to read this....they talked something about fish scales used the the process of making the whey...similar story with the Guinness.  Or ground up animal by-products?  I'm not sure....are you veggie?
No, not veggie but I certainly like to be 100% positive of what I'm putting into my body.

So it sounds like some, not all whey protien could be using animal by-products. That's insane. My advise would be to buy only from a reputible, organic manufacturer. Avoid large processing plants.

Otherwise, I'd say switch to soy protien... although there could be animal products in there as well by this rational.

Crappy. That's for sure. I really hope there's an article on-line for this. I'm going to look as well. This is crazy.
I have been searching online and you have to subscribe to get most of their articles.  I will have to get my hands on the actual article....that just creeps me out!  And not like I need to be drinking beer but DAMN, Guinness is low cal and high fiber compared to most beers...and its so filling.  But now they (who is they anyways?) are telling me its not veg? ugh

I agree with you...I need to stick with organic from places I trust...
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rice protein powder is vegan
Whey is definitely a milk bi-product and therefore vegetarian but not vegan.

The alcohol question is a little bit more complex. A lot of beers and wines use animal bi-products in their filtration systems, all forms of Guinness included. Here are a couple of articles:

http://veganconnection.com/notvegan.html

http://www.vrg.org/journal/vj97jan/971wine.ht m

But, it's difficult because no trace of them is actually left by the time they reach your glass. That's sort of the point of them working as filters. It's kind of like how soap works to remove dirt. When you rinse it off, both are removed together.

It is an animal rights issue though and depending on how orthodox you want to be you might want to avoid beer and wine that use these methods. Fortunately, there are plenty of lists of vegan friendly wines and beers around.
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Whey Is not vegetarian if the enzyme used to make it is rennet. Like wise neither is any cheese made using the animal enzyme rennet.

I use Designer Whey Protein in Chocolate and I just checked the label...it says:

 

other than whey, dried cream extract, lactoperoxidase, and whey mineral complex, there are no other animal sourced ingredients in this product.

 

Just an FYI! :)

Whey is sometimes made using calf rennet.  So  if you care about animal-rennet based cheeses, then you should probably care about whey sources as well.   Unfortunately, it's unlikely that this information will be on the box/can/whatever, so you'll have to contact the manufacturer of your particular product to find out.

The problem with beer/wine is isinglass.  It's made from dead fish, and then is used as a fining agent for many beers and wines.  So the final product doesn't have any dead animals in it, but it was made intentionally using dead animals.  So if you define vegetarian as someone who doesn't eat dead animals, technically the beer/wine would meet that definition of vegetarian.  However, if you go further with vegetarianism and start to avoid things like animal rennet, then isinglass is another one to consider avoiding, because even though you don't eat the dead animal, animals died for the product to be made.  Most American and German beers do not use isinglass ( I think ALL German beers may be free of it, because of some old law they have), and there are lists of wines available online that are also veg*n.  All this being said, most of the people who I've known who care about isinglass have been vegans, not vegetarians.

i think once we start to show these manufacturers that we want a animal rennet free whey protein, they'll start to listen, but i think its going to be another long battle. i contacted maximuscle & someone is supposed to get back to me. the thing is they can switch where they get it from without having to notify their customers, so one can never really tell.

EDIT:

(if you want to believe this then here is some other info i found)

http://www.wheyoflife.org/facts.cfm

Q: Is Whey Protein A Good Choice For Vegetarians?

A: Whey protein is a dairy protein and comes from cow's milk. It does NOT come from animal flesh. In the United States whey protein is a co-product of the cheese making process and in most cases a microbial type of rennet is used in the manufacturing process. Whey protein is acceptable for any vegetarian diet that allows dairy products including lacto-ovo, lacto, and ovo types of vegetarian diets.

Try NUTIVA HEMP PROTEIN POWDER FOR VEGANS OR VEGETARIANS - IT'S FROM ORGANIC HEMP - HIGH PROTEIN, NO SUGAR, LOW CARBS AND NOW THEY EVEN HAVE FLAVORED - AND ONES WITH MACA, ETC. 

AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE JUMPING ON THE ACAI - BUY THE POWDER AND DUMP INTO YOUR BREAKFAST DRINKS - CHEAPER THAN THE PILLS AND YOU CAN GET IT ORGANIC -

IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT SOMETHING IS - JUST USE A SEARCH - GOOGLE OR EVEN WIKIPEDIA.ORG IS GREAT FOR EXPLAINING WHAT EACH INGREDIENT IS!

GOOD LUCK - BEEN USING FOR YEARS - HAVE TRIED MORE EXPENSIVE AND OTHER HEMP PROTEINS - BUT I THINK NUTIVA' THE BEST - FIND THEIR HOMEPAGE - IT'S THE CHEAPEST - OTHERWISE, YOU MAY PAY DOUBLE!

Sounds like you don't like COW - ME EITHER - never use anything from a cow - used to drink ORGANIC COW - BUT UGH - and I dislike SOY - TOO MUCH BAD INFO ABOUT SOY OUT THERE - but, for veggie lovers (or vegans) as said above - RICE POWDER is good - but alot of carbs - if you want PROTEIN-try NUTIVA HEMP POWDER - ALL VEGAN - 0 sugars, LOADS of PROTEIN AND THEY HAVE ONE WITH 37% PROTEIN AND 43% FIBER, etc.!

I LOVE GOAT WHEY - has alot of amino acids a good deal of protein and less carbs - like 15 grams protein and 5 carbs - less than 2 sugars (sugar free).  There's a couple out there - I use GOAT EVERYTHING - MILK, ICE CREAM, BUTTER, ETC.  It's more easily digestible and just google to find the organic goat whey - it's another option.......

BTW - MOST THINGS ARE CHEAPER AT THE HOMEPAGE WEBSITE - SO GO TO NUTIVA'S HOME PAGE - IF YOU CAN'T FIND IT IN YOUR HEALTH FOOD STORES!  I've seen it almost doubled elsewhere - so after I google, then and find what I want, I go to the homepage of the product - so far they've always been cheaper!

GOOD HEALTH TO ALL!

 

I LOVE my Soy Protein shakes!! :)

Original Post by chasinggoodhealth:

Sounds like you don't like COW - ME EITHER - never use anything from a cow - used to drink ORGANIC COW - BUT UGH - and I dislike SOY - TOO MUCH BAD INFO ABOUT SOY OUT THERE - but, for veggie lovers (or vegans) as said above - RICE POWDER is good - but alot of carbs - if you want PROTEIN-try NUTIVA HEMP POWDER - ALL VEGAN - 0 sugars, LOADS of PROTEIN AND THEY HAVE ONE WITH 37% PROTEIN AND 43% FIBER, etc.!

I LOVE GOAT WHEY - has alot of amino acids a good deal of protein and less carbs - like 15 grams protein and 5 carbs - less than 2 sugars (sugar free).  There's a couple out there - I use GOAT EVERYTHING - MILK, ICE CREAM, BUTTER, ETC.  It's more easily digestible and just google to find the organic goat whey - it's another option.......

BTW - MOST THINGS ARE CHEAPER AT THE HOMEPAGE WEBSITE - SO GO TO NUTIVA'S HOME PAGE - IF YOU CAN'T FIND IT IN YOUR HEALTH FOOD STORES!  I've seen it almost doubled elsewhere - so after I google, then and find what I want, I go to the homepage of the product - so far they've always been cheaper!

GOOD HEALTH TO ALL!

 

 STOP. SHOUTING.

Original Post by littlecalypso:

Original Post by chasinggoodhealth:

Sounds like you don't like COW - ME EITHER - never use anything from a cow - used to drink ORGANIC COW - BUT UGH - and I dislike SOY - TOO MUCH BAD INFO ABOUT SOY OUT THERE - but, for veggie lovers (or vegans) as said above - RICE POWDER is good - but alot of carbs - if you want PROTEIN-try NUTIVA HEMP POWDER - ALL VEGAN - 0 sugars, LOADS of PROTEIN AND THEY HAVE ONE WITH 37% PROTEIN AND 43% FIBER, etc.!

I LOVE GOAT WHEY - has alot of amino acids a good deal of protein and less carbs - like 15 grams protein and 5 carbs - less than 2 sugars (sugar free). There's a couple out there - I use GOAT EVERYTHING - MILK, ICE CREAM, BUTTER, ETC. It's more easily digestible and just google to find the organic goat whey - it's another option.......

BTW - MOST THINGS ARE CHEAPER AT THE HOMEPAGE WEBSITE - SO GO TO NUTIVA'S HOME PAGE - IF YOU CAN'T FIND IT IN YOUR HEALTH FOOD STORES! I've seen it almost doubled elsewhere - so after I google, then and find what I want, I go to the homepage of the product - so far they've always been cheaper!

GOOD HEALTH TO ALL!

STOP. SHOUTING.

WHAT, I CANT HEAR YOU ON TOP OF ALL THE FORUM NOISE.

Refined white sugar is also not vegetarian.  They use bone char in the refining process.

Also anything with geletain, which is made from animal connective tissue.  Geletain is in alot of stuff, including most medications and pretty much all caplets (that's why they're called gel-caps.  The gel part is for geletain).

Beet sugar doesn't use bone char.  Neither does demerara sugar, turbinado sugar, Muscovado sugar, and some (but not all) brown sugars.

Ohhh god another ingredient to add to the list to worry about.... but everything has whey powder in it!!! :'( damn.

Arbonne has an awesome vegan protein shake that's delicious. It's made with a combination of pea, rice and cranberry protein. They are a guaranteed no animal product or by-product company with no animal testing. They come in chocolate and vanilla. I use the the chocolate with almond milk and its like a shake. No artificial colors or sweeteners. They use Stevia. Email me if you want info on how to order.

My favorite vegetarian, vegan protein powders are Garden of Life Raw Protein and Sun Warrior protein powder.  Very pure, all raw all vegan

from The Book of Tofu by William Shurtleff & Akiko Aoyagi:

 

Chapter 7:

       &nb sp;    The art of preparing homemade butter and cheese, and the vocabulary that went with it, are slowly disappearing from Western culture. But it was once commonly understood that when a solution of rennet – containing the enzyme rennin extracted from the membrane from the fourth stomach of unweaned calves, lambs or kids –was added to cow’s milk, or when the milk was left uncovered fro several days in a warm place, it curdled, separating into a thin, watery liquid (whey) and soft white semi-solids (curds). The curds, primarily coagulated milk protein called “casein,” could then be fermented and aged to make cheese, or churned to make butter.

 

from The Soybean Cookbook by Dorothea Gundy Jones:

 

       &nb sp;    SOY CHEESE FROM DRY SOYBEANS 

 

For this method, you will ned the following ingfredients:

 

1 cup dry soybeans (yellow mammoth are good)

4 cups water

Juice of two lemons

 

Soak the beans overnight, drain the liquid off, and wash the beans thoroughly. Using ½ cup beans to 1 cup water, run them in a liquefier for 2 to 3 minutes. Strain the mixture through a fine sieve. Save both the liquid and pulp. When all the soaked beans have been liquefied, put all the pulp back in the liquefier with enough water to nearly cover. Liquefy this for abut 2 minutes and strain it into the above liquid. This milk-liquid is made into soy cheese as follows:

 

And then it goes on from there. But my point in posting this is to present an explanation of what *soy* whey is and how to make it quickly and easily – an dinexpensively – in the comfort and convenience of your very own kitchen. I hope this information will prove useful to others posting here on this topic.

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