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Okay, so far I have kept up with my weight gain and have continued eating 2200-2400 calories a day. But I need to up it to 2800. My problem is that I gain so fast on 2200, that I will gain super fast on 2800. I have been trying to eat more protein so I gain some muscle mass, but I still don't think I am eating enough of it. If I just eat whatever (meaning fatty foods and stuff like that) and gain my weight, if I work out and eat lots of protein will I be able to loose the fat that I gained and turn it into lean muscle instead? I need to know this because I really need to start upping my calories because I want to maintain on a high amount of calories and I heard you can do that by eating over 2500 calories a day.

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Well...here's the thing. You need to gain fat. Fat is necessary and helps keep you alive. In your last post you said you weighed 71 lbs. This is very low. How tall are you? You really need at least 3,000 if you are a teen. You need the extra calories to repair your body. You are gaining fast because your metabolism is suppressed. If you up your calories you can increase your metabolism and when you get to a healthy weight, you will eventually stop gaining. I don't think you need to be concerned about working out or losing fat right now. You need to concentrate on saving your life.

ETA: Sorry, I just reread and realized you never actually said you had an eating disorder. I guess I just assumed. Are you recovering?

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Well I have been continuing to gain. But it scared me when I gained 4 lbs in 1 week. I just wasn't sure if I should gain while eating whatever or should I gain eating a high protein diet. Because either way I will gain, I just wanted to know which one will be better. Because I want a fast metabolism and thin body in the end. And if I do gain eating a moderate protein diet, will I gain differently? And if I do, if I work out once I finish gaining, will I be able to get a good body? Or will I be stuck with more body fat because of the way I gained?

Please confirm, eating disorder or no? What is the reason behind your low body weight? What is your height? We need more information to give you the right advice.

Also, if you DID have an ED and were restricting you will gain on less calories because you metabolism is suppressed. But when you eat more consistently, your metabolism will adjust and the gain will slow down.

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Yes, I do have an eating disorder. I am a low weight because of restricting. I do not have any problems with bulimia or anything. I have not actually been diagnosed, but I guess you would say I have Anorexia or/and Orthorexia.

And I heard that if you eat really high calorie that your metabolism will catch up. But how long does it take? Because I really don't want to gain a super large amount of weight before my metabolism catches up. I just want to end up having a fast metabolism, be a normal weight and be able to eat whatever I want without gaining.

That's why I wanted to know if a high protein diet will help me get what I want. Or will it have no effect?

Its hard to say how long it will take. But it will catch up. You won't just keep gaining forever. I've been in recovery for around 4 months and the gain was faster in the beginning, but the weight gain has slowed down a lot. Didn't you say you weight like 71 lbs? Unless you're really short, you need to gain quite a bit of weight. Protein is important, but I don't really know if it impacts metabolism. I think the important thing is just to eat more calories. Since your a teenager you should probably have 3,000 calories at the minimum.

As soxgurl said, your metabolism will catch up and after a consistent diet of 3,000 calories plus you will not gain weight at a rapid weight. Considering your age, your intake may need to be higher. If your weight is really 71 pounds, I really really would encourage seeing a doctor immediately considering the severity the situation sounds. Protein, definitely being important with any diet, does not in general cause a fast metabolism. Your diet should be varied with enough carbohydrates for energy, fat for satiety, hormone regulation, and vitamin absorption, as well as adequate protein for satiety and muscle tissue repair.

Recovery Meal Plan for Males with Eating Disorders Here is a sample meal plan and breakdown both calorie form, and the preferred exchange form. This will provide you with a MINIMUM baseline of 3,150 calories.

- Frank

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Original Post by autopilotfrank193:

As soxgurl said, your metabolism will catch up and after a consistent diet of 3,000 calories plus you will not gain weight at a rapid weight. Considering your age, your intake may need to be higher. If your weight is really 71 pounds, I really really would encourage seeing a doctor immediately considering the severity the situation sounds. Protein, definitely being important with any diet, does not in general cause a fast metabolism. Your diet should be varied with enough carbohydrates for energy, fat for satiety, hormone regulation, and vitamin absorption, as well as adequate protein for satiety and muscle tissue repair.

Recovery Meal Plan for Males with Eating Disorders Here is a sample meal plan and breakdown both calorie form, and the preferred exchange form. This will provide you with a MINIMUM baseline of 3,150 calories.

- Frank

So, what your saying is that me eating a high protein diet won't have effect on how I gain? Like I will gain the same type of weight no matter what I eat? 

If I end up gaining on 2500 calories, will I end up having to maintain on less? 

 

Hi (: I was in exactly the same position as you three months ago when I was admitted to hospital for anorexia. I was scared that they would feed me loads of sugar, fat and carbs and I wouldn't gain any muscle mass, but I was wrong.

It doesn't matter what type of food you eat - you will gain muscle AND fat - both of them, not just one or the other. I see a doctor every week who actually confirmed this.

Also - when you're gaining weight, it's not ALL muscle and fat - some of it is bone density and some of it goes to your organs and other places inside your body that have been starved.

As for your metabolism, you'd be suprised how quickly it adjusts to different amounts of food. My calories have to be incread every other week because my metabolism speeds itself up in order to burn off the calories, so I end up not gaining as much after a while and my cals have to increased, so don't worry! Good luck!

If you eat fatty foods and try to turn it into muscle later you will be doing twice as much work! Up your protein intake to about 300-400 grams a day cut the fatty foods up your carb intake as well you will see more muscle aim and less fat... You must be eating the right kinds of food tho
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If you eat fatty foods and try to turn it into muscle later you will be doing twice as much work! Up your protein intake to about 300-400 grams a day cut the fatty foods up your carb intake as well you will see more muscle aim and less fat... You must be eating the right kinds of food tho

I don't know a lot about protein, but isn't that a bit excessive? I probably only get around 60-70 grams a day. I also heard too much protein can damage your kidneys...

Original Post by solidiverimoc:

If you eat fatty foods and try to turn it into muscle later you will be doing twice as much work! Up your protein intake to about 300-400 grams a day cut the fatty foods up your carb intake as well you will see more muscle aim and less fat... You must be eating the right kinds of food tho

Bad bad bad advice. 

Protein should be about 1-1.7g per kg of body weight. E.g. im 50kg so i should eat 50-85g a day. Often i get more like 100ish but thats okay. Even body builders are only recommended like 2.4g per kg or something. Protein can be poisonous in excessive amounts.

You will gain fat/muscle regardless of what you eat, your body DESPERATELY needs fat though - and that means on your body and in your diet. It is a complete and utter myth that eating fat makes you gain fat. The only grain of truth is that fat is more calorie dense, so if someone wasnt counting their calories it would be easier for them to eat more than they burn and hence gain weight. Your body will do what it needs to make you healthy, if that means eating tonnes of maybe less nutritious foods, so be it. Eating lots of fat is NOT unhealthy, in fact it is very very healthy. Fat helps your brain, all your other organs, your hormones and lots of other important things. 

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