Ive been reading all kinds of diets and I just dont know now...Is 9 grain/whole grain/ country harvest type breads good to eat , or not?
Some plans, such as herbal magic say leave the breads alone that have seeds/nuts. I thought grain/breads was a healthy part of the daily food plan? (mind you, they certainly do have a LOT of calories) 2 slices of bread is like 260 calories alone with nothing on it.
Herbal magic? Never heard of it.
What do you think? Do you like bread? Does it fit into your calorie allotment for the day while allowing you to get the rest of your needed nutrients? If so, I'd say it's good for you.
Yes I love the breads, but Im beginning to wonder if they bloat you up and put weight on. I have switched to grain breads like country style instead of wonder white bread. They seem to be very fattening though. Like if I make a peanut butter sandwich for lunch, well thats like 500 calories all by itself!
They can bloat you up if you have a gluten allergy, sensitivity or are simply not used to the fiber in it. What bread won't do is cause you to gain weight unless you're eating so much of it that you're taking in more than you're burning.
What's wrong with a 500 calorie lunch? I mean, my PB&Js aren't usually 500 calories (at most, 200 calories for bread, 95 calories of PB, 30 calories for jelly) so I can actually have something else with it but 500 calories in a meal isn't terribly bad.
I eat bread, not willing to give it up. Hasn't affected my weight loss or gain ever, hard to eat lots of it. I'm willing to live with whatever minor health consequences bread may contribute to. That said I don't eat much, maybe a slice or two a week.
Original Post by creepykat:
Ive been reading all kinds of diets and I just dont know now...Is 9 grain/whole grain/ country harvest type breads good to eat , or not?
Some plans, such as herbal magic say leave the breads alone that have seeds/nuts. I thought grain/breads was a healthy part of the daily food plan? (mind you, they certainly do have a LOT of calories) 2 slices of bread is like 260 calories alone with nothing on it.
I eat 45 calorie per slice Sarah lee wheat bread and I love it :)
I eat a minimum of two slices of multi-grain bread a day. I switched to the mutli-grain when I started losing weight because it has more calories than white bread and I needed more calories in my lunch. Now I like it better. Bread is fine if you don't have Celiac's Disease.
I've switched all of my breads, pastas etc to whole grain. Make certain what you buy says 100% whole grain or 100% whole wheat as it is very different than just wheat bread. The 100% makes all of the difference in true nutrition value. I highly recommend continuing to eat breads.
I also highly discourage following any sort of 'diet'. Diets are made to be broken. Why not just focus on caloric change learn to eat less than you burn. I eat whatever I want with nothing off limits. Last week I had chicken wings 2 times and still lost weight :) As long as you plan for it with the rest of your food for the day I see no reason why you should ever have to avoid any food in particular (except excess sodium which causes you all sort of health problems as well as makes you retain water).
In reference to retaining water my other advise may sound counter intuitive but just trust me. Drink as much water in one day as you can possibly imagine drinking. I drink about 150 ozs a day or so. The increase water helps flush out excesssive sodium and other unwanted things from the body, hydrates you to optimal points, helps you lose weight faster and will make you feel wonderful (only negative side effect is frequent bathroom trips)
Brian that sounds great. Well by diet, I thought I was supposed to watch fat intake. Do you not look at the fat content of what you are eating? Sodium...Ive been looking at that too, but everything has so much of it I dont make it a priority. Mostly Im looking at calorie reduction. Now what about chocolate cake and stuff like that..you eat that too?
Thanx Trh for your reply. I dont eat much bread at all..but yes I think two slices a day is fine too.
Original Post by imsatindoll:
Original Post by creepykat:
Ive been reading all kinds of diets and I just dont know now...Is 9 grain/whole grain/ country harvest type breads good to eat , or not?
Some plans, such as herbal magic say leave the breads alone that have seeds/nuts. I thought grain/breads was a healthy part of the daily food plan? (mind you, they certainly do have a LOT of calories) 2 slices of bread is like 260 calories alone with nothing on it.
I eat 45 calorie per slice Sarah lee wheat bread and I love it :)
I dont think Ive ever seen a 45 calorie slice of bread imstindoll! Though I did find rye where I live, it was the lowest calorie, 80 per slice.
Original Post by reissue:
I eat bread, not willing to give it up. Hasn't affected my weight loss or gain ever, hard to eat lots of it. I'm willing to live with whatever minor health consequences bread may contribute to. That said I don't eat much, maybe a slice or two a week.
one or two slicese a WEEK isnt very much at all!
I posted this in another thread but thought it was appropriate for this thread - all of the info comes from the bread that happens to be in pantry this week (YMMV):
1. Bread is a processed food. My bread has 28 ingredients in it, half of which I cannot pronounce. If you are trying to eliminate processed foods then bread is a no-no.
2. High in calories - my 1 little slice of bread is 120 calories. If I eat multiple slices that is going to add up fast.
3. High in Carbs - 22g. Now everyone has a different opinion on carbs but most people agree they should be limited to x amount.
4. High in sugar - 4g. See carbs.
5. High in sodium - 150g. Not terrible, but anytime a food has more sodium than calories, it is not helping reduce your sodium intake.
6. But bread is high in fiber right? Not so fast. My bread has 2g of fiber. To hit my recommended daily intake I would need to eat at least 19 slices. That would put my at 418g of carbs for the day of which 72g is sugar.
7. Wheat - that's a whole other discussion but it may not be great for you.
8. Bread is a marketing guru's dream. My bread is called "Whole Grain Oatnut Bread". Wow that sounds healthy. The packaging talks about Fiber, no HFCS, whole grains, 0 trans fat, 0 cholesterol. There is even a picture of the Olympic rings on there and the slogan is "From Grains to Glory". Sounds like I could eat this stuff all day, right?
Now, I'm sure you can find healthier bread than mine by carefully looking at labels. But if my "healthy" bread is maybe not all that healthy, then you can only imagine how bad the bread is in hamburger buns, Subway sandwiches, and of course that yummy bread that they put on the table in restaurants.
Now I'm not saying bread is evil and should be eliminated - just make sure you know what's in it, how much of it you are eating, and that it fits in with your overall nutrition plan.
I like bread in moderation and it's healthier for me to make a sandwich at home than to go out to a restaurant and get one where I can't regulate the calories. Ideally I would be defaulting to a different grain (rice or quinoa) but when I'm short on time or not in the mood to cook bread works for me.
I really like Rudi's bread if you can find it: http://www.rudisbakery.com/organic/products/? type=breads&id=58
Just an aside: keep in mind that sodium is measured in milligrams.
Original Post by MsDalfo:
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Just an aside: keep in mind that sodium is measured in milligrams.
lol, yes, 150g would be an issue!
Original Post by creepykat:
Brian that sounds great. Well by diet, I thought I was supposed to watch fat intake. Do you not look at the fat content of what you are eating? Sodium...Ive been looking at that too, but everything has so much of it I dont make it a priority. Mostly Im looking at calorie reduction. Now what about chocolate cake and stuff like that..you eat that too?
I never had much success with plans or diets (not that I could ever stick with any of them for very long). My approach is a simple lifestyle change wherein I burn more than I consume. I do that through calorie counting and exercise. Logging my food here on CC has been very educational for me. Yesterday I had some not-very-satisfying cake and candy bar, but I counted those as part of my daily allotment. Then I had a vigorous work-out, so I managed a good deficit.
For me it comes down to choices. I pay some attention to my nutritional analysis, but I also let my bady guide me. I can have wheat and dairy in moderation, but my digestion is affected if I have too much. I might have a salad instead of a sandwich, or I might put sandwich filling in a lettuce leaf. I can have whatever I want, but I usually think about whether the high calorie route is where I want to "spend" my daily allowance. I'm not on a diet, and deprivation simply does not work for me.
Original Post by creepykat:
Brian that sounds great. Well by diet, I thought I was supposed to watch fat intake. Do you not look at the fat content of what you are eating? Sodium...Ive been looking at that too, but everything has so much of it I dont make it a priority. Mostly Im looking at calorie reduction. Now what about chocolate cake and stuff like that..you eat that too?
I don't restrict fat content either. Eating fat does not make you fat. Your body processes it differently and it does not just stick to your insides making you fatter. I monitor my sodium closely but everything else I don't stress over. I keep my calories below my Burn (bmr + Activity) and I make certain to make good choices Whole grain over white. More natural foods over processed etc etc. In the end all that maters is you consume less than or you burn however I prefer the way I feel after eating more natural.
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