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I have a long history of food restriction. As a result of this (and perhaps a thyroid condition) I don't lose any weight when I eat less. In fact, doing so can actually cause me to GAIN weight when I go back to eating a normal amount.

How can I lose weight without cutting calories?

I am on levothyroxine (T4, for hashimotos) and 1000 mg of metformin (for high blood sugar and possible PCOS).

 

My list of possibilities so far includes:

1. cardio

2. weight lifting

3. changing medications 

 

What else?

 

 

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I have a friend with Hashimotos, for her it took making sure her thyroid levels were right, as well as she found weight lifting was much more effective for her to lose weight.  Like you she struggled with she had to eat so little to lose, she had to eat little just to maintain. 

What does your diet consist of?  Keeping your carbs lower and staying away from processed foods along with a lifting program could really help you change your body composition without have to lose a lot of weight on the scale.  How much weight do you think you need to lose?

The thing is, I would like to lose a lot of weight on the scale. I don't care about my body composition so much as I care about the number on the scale.

 

I would say that I need to lose 30 - 50 pounds. I am probably 165 (haven't weighed myself recently because it's so disheartening), so that would make me 115 - 135.

 

 

 

 

Currently I eat 1800 - 2200 calories, with 150 - 200 grams of carbohydrates.

 

I've been through serious starvation mode, eating 1000 calories and NOT LOSING. Horrible experience that **** up the body.

 

Okay, weight lifting. Anya1229, does your friend take T4 meds or combination T4/T3?

Original Post by tealpenguin326:

The thing is, I would like to lose a lot of weight on the scale. I don't care about my body composition so much as I care about the number on the scale.

So if you lose 10 pounds, but your body fat increases, you'd be happy with that result?

 

Original Post by tealpenguin326:

I don't care about my body composition so much as I care about the number on the scale.

 

I would be perfectly fine with maintaining my current muscle to fat ratio while also dropping numbers on the scale.

But you wouldn't be happy if you dropped a pants size but the number on the scale stayed the same?  I promise I'm not trying to be snarky, I just don't understand where you're coming from...

Original Post by tealpenguin326:

Original Post by tealpenguin326:

I don't care about my body composition so much as I care about the number on the scale.

 

I would be perfectly fine with maintaining my current muscle to fat ratio while also dropping numbers on the scale.

So you want to see the number on the scale go down while maintaining your muscle-to-fat ratio? That's what having a calorie deficit (either through calorie restriction or exercise, or a combination of both) will do for you. You'll lose both fat and muscle. To minimize muscle loss, add strength training to the mix.

Edit: Teal, how old are you?

How is everyone overlooking the simple fact that the OP is irrefutably wrong? If you eat fewer calories than you consume there is absolutely no possible way you won't lose weight. It just can't happen. It's like saying gravity doesn't apply to you. It's how things work.

Burning calories through exercise, if it causes a deficit, is the exact same as eating less, if it results in a deficit.

I'm very confused as to why it is you believe you can't lose weight on a deficit.

Original Post by armandounc: I'm very confused as to why it is you believe you can't lose weight on a deficit.

Unless I'm reading it wrong, the OP doesn't mention not being able to lose weight on a deficit. She says she cannot lose weight by consuming fewer calories.

Original Post by armandounc:

How is everyone overlooking the simple fact that the OP is irrefutably wrong? If you eat fewer calories than you consume there is absolutely no possible way you won't lose weight. It just can't happen. It's like saying gravity doesn't apply to you. It's how things work.

Burning calories through exercise, if it causes a deficit, is the exact same as eating less, if it results in a deficit.

I'm very confused as to why it is you believe you can't lose weight on a deficit.

armandouc, I will kindly ask you once to leave this thread. 

I started New Rules of Lifting for Women at the end of Dec.  I have really only lost about 6-8 lbs but a dress that absolutely would not zip before Christmas now zips all the way up.  At the time I first tried it on I really did not think I would ever be able to wear it so lifting weights and working on body composition can do a lot for your size without a lot of change in the scale.

I apologize to the rest of the board, but I am in recovery for disordered eating (around age 15 I was starving myself on 1000 calories but not losing weight) and her comments are very triggering. 

It's like going to the doctor because your leg is sore, then being told, "You can't have a sore leg. It's just not possible." 

You KNOW you have a sore leg. You experience it every day. Yet, so many people around you are ABSOLUTELY CONVINCED that it is an impossibility. 

Every so often I relapse and buy into these principles because everyone around me is so completely confident that they will work. They practically assure me that I will lose weight. I do it, and EVERY TIME I don't. 

It's really stupid. Stupidity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. It doesn't matter what common sense dieting says, it just doesn't work for me, and it's something I need to accept if I am actually going to get better psychologically and lose weight.

 

 

tina0367, did you lose 6 - 8 lbs as a result of lifting?

That is probably enough for me. I am hoping that at least lifting will stop the number on the scale from rising. 

 

I think though you want to lose weight (with your age, ED background and medication) you may find more of the type of answers you want on the fitness or health and support forums. I say this only because in the weight loss forum 'common sense dieting' tips will always be given and no matter how you react to them (and you will get equal reaction back in a lot of causes), unless you just ignore those suggestions, you may find more of what you are looking for in fitness or health and support forums. 

I am sure you can still find the fitness advice you like with both your medication and fitness driven goals for improving your body the way you see fit as ideal, any where applicable even on these weight loss forums, I just hope you find less confrontational/upsetting triggers on the other forums I suggested. Good luck on your journey ahead.

Original Post by tealpenguin326:

I apologize to the rest of the board, but I am in recovery for disordered eating (around age 15 I was starving myself on 1000 calories but not losing weight) and her comments are very triggering. 

It's like going to the doctor because your leg is sore, then being told, "You can't have a sore leg. It's just not possible." 

You KNOW you have a sore leg. You experience it every day. Yet, so many people around you are ABSOLUTELY CONVINCED that it is an impossibility. 

Every so often I relapse and buy into these principles because everyone around me is so completely confident that they will work. They practically assure me that I will lose weight. I do it, and EVERY TIME I don't. 

It's really stupid. Stupidity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. It doesn't matter what common sense dieting says, it just doesn't work for me, and it's something I need to accept if I am actually going to get better psychologically and lose weight.

How in the world did you get that I'm a "she"?

Maybe the reason you don't lose weight is because you are consuming more calories than you burn. If you keep adding water to a bucket and it never gets full, there's probably a leak. If you can't lose weight even though you think you are at a deficit then you're NOT at a deficit.

I don't understand how that is something you don't want to hear? I'm just letting you know that if you eat fewer calories than you burn you will lose weight. So clearly you aren't eating fewer calories than you burn.

Anyway if you don't want to listen then don't, but one day you'll look back on this and realize how right I was.

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Ignore any negative vibes and try to be positive teal. ;)

I think your first two options - Cardio and strength training - are good ones. If your doctor has not said mentioned any restriction on exercises and activities, you should be able to start doing some form of exercises soon as you put down your mind to it.

Since you rightly said that doing the same things with the same method won't give different results  no matter how many times in the past and present you tried it, then you already know it's time to do it differently using a different approach.

All the best, and don't be discouraged. Wink 

Enjoy eating, just as you enjoy whatever exercise and whatever else you do. It's a long way to the grave, and suffering yourself by eating less when you want to eat just that little bit more, is not a good way to enjoy the rest of one's life. Smile

Original Post by armandounc:

Original Post by tealpenguin326:

I apologize to the rest of the board, but I am in recovery for disordered eating (around age 15 I was starving myself on 1000 calories but not losing weight) and her comments are very triggering. 

It's like going to the doctor because your leg is sore, then being told, "You can't have a sore leg. It's just not possible." 

You KNOW you have a sore leg. You experience it every day. Yet, so many people around you are ABSOLUTELY CONVINCED that it is an impossibility. 

Every so often I relapse and buy into these principles because everyone around me is so completely confident that they will work. They practically assure me that I will lose weight. I do it, and EVERY TIME I don't. 

It's really stupid. Stupidity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. It doesn't matter what common sense dieting says, it just doesn't work for me, and it's something I need to accept if I am actually going to get better psychologically and lose weight.

How in the world did you get that I'm a "she"?

Maybe the reason you don't lose weight is because you are consuming more calories than you burn. If you keep adding water to a bucket and it never gets full, there's probably a leak. If you can't lose weight even though you think you are at a deficit then you're NOT at a deficit.

I don't understand how that is something you don't want to hear? I'm just letting you know that if you eat fewer calories than you burn you will lose weight. So clearly you aren't eating fewer calories than you burn.

Anyway if you don't want to listen then don't, but one day you'll look back on this and realize how right I was.

armandounc, you're not paying any attention to the fact that her eating disorder has screwed over her metabolism, and that restricting calories is NOT an option because it can cause a relapse.

Teal, I apologize for my earlier comment.  I missed your first sentence.  Long day at work.  if you exercise more, then you'll have to eat more to not create a deficit. If a deficit is okay, but only over a certain number of calories (say 1500 or some other number that works for you), then you can achieve what you want.  If your body can't handle any deficit, then you probably need to continue focusing on recovery and not on how much or what type of exercise will help you continue to lose weight.

As hollowness said, the fitness board might be more suited for your questions.  We're not used to those in recovery on the weight loss boards.  We're used to those who haven't admitted they have a disorder, and people who are trying to lose the right way.  We're definitely not in the habit of avoiding things that trigger.

I wish you the best of luck in achieving health, both mental and physical.  Just a few more pounds off never really changes your self perception.  Don't fall into the trap again!

She takes Synthroid (levothyroxine), also.  The weight lifting made a huge difference for her.  By creating more muscle you will burn more calories. 

Original Post by tealpenguin326:

tina0367, did you lose 6 - 8 lbs as a result of lifting?

That is probably enough for me. I am hoping that at least lifting will stop the number on the scale from rising. 

 

I know I'm not Tina but I can answer the question as well. I didn't lose much weight on the scale. 1-2 pounds during my first round of NROLFW. However, I lost a lot of inches around my waist, bust, hips, arms and thighs. I looked like I had lost 10-15 pounds.

Edit: armandounc, I'm not sure the typical rules regarding weight loss really apply to the OP since she has a history of disordered eating and now a thyriod condition that she is taking medication for. While you may be right that she is consuming either the same amount that she burns or more, it's probably because her metabolism is out of whack due to the past severe calorie restriction and thyriod hormones being all over the place.

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