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Is it cheating if I put early A.M. snacks on count for next-days breakfast?


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Example:

I am wildly successful at maintaining 1500 calories "for the day" (I wake up around noon by the way).


But then I find myself gorging 500 calories of snacks around 5am (before I go to bed mind you). Can I put it towards my "breakfast" of the next day so long as I don't eat anything when I wake up, or does it not count since I had it before I went to sleep?

Argument that it's OK: It was at 5 am of "the next day" anyways.
Argument against: You had it before you went to sleep so it's technically still "yesterday"

I could see it both ways.

In a related thought, before this came up, I was wondering if my calorie count should be of the official day (12am-12am) or during my waking hours. Different counts depending on how you choose. What should I do?

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You can look at it either way and still be correct. As long as you just for go logging the calories, you are still being true to what you ate. I would put it as before I went to sleep in an effort to stop eating so much so late. I try to not eat anything 2 hours before I go to sleep. I also try to go to bed and wake up at the same time everyday. This promotes regular eating times and you may not have the problem with logging the food in the first place.
It's not a good idea, plus your body burns cals as you go thru your day and stores whatever it decides after you go to sleep. so if your putting it on for tomorrow your kind of giving yourself false hope in a way but mostly screwing yourself over with what you can intake the following day. This is probably why you binge before bed, bc you actually got much less than what your trying to tell your body that you got. Try logging it for that day and then going through your next day the same, you'll feel a little guilty at first but in a week or so you'll probably start seeing your eating habits straighten out and begin losing weight if that's your goal.

I have read about two schools of thought on this. On the one hand, every day you burn X amount of calories, and every day you eat Y amount of calories. As long as X is greater than Y, you should lose weight. On the other hand, your activities cause the rate to go up and down during the day, so falling asleep right after you eat isn't great.

I tend to go to bed late and be a late night eater myself, and because of my habits, I plan to eat more than half of my daily calories after 6 p.m. This works out fine for me as long as what I'm eating is nutritious. Vegetable soup, salad with nuts, popcorn. 

Obviously if you pound a pizza at 2 a.m., you are not doing anything great for your body but as long as the math is sound, you should lose weight.

According to all the studies I’ve read, it’s complete rubbish that you shouldn’t eat after 8pm/before you sleep/whatever. It doesn’t matter when you eat (unless you’re talking about giving yourself energy to fuel a workout, but that’s a little different). And since our calories aren’t on a strict 24-hour schedule, this stuff evens out over a week (which is why zig-zagging calories works, for example). As long as you have a weekly deficit overall, yeah, you log those early morning snacks on whichever day you please.

 

Rhetorical question.

If you get up daily at 5am n sleep 3 hrs in the afternoon what would you do ?

 

Basically it does not matter. To keep track of your calories eaten and burnt all you need is to decide on a 24 hrs cycle. Whatever is convenient for you. 3pm to 3pm would be fine !

Original Post by caitoriri:

According to all the studies I’ve read, it’s complete rubbish that you shouldn’t eat after 8pm/before you sleep/whatever. It doesn’t matter when you eat (unless you’re talking about giving yourself energy to fuel a workout, but that’s a little different). And since our calories aren’t on a strict 24-hour schedule, this stuff evens out over a week (which is why zig-zagging calories works, for example). As long as you have a weekly deficit overall, yeah, you log those early morning snacks on whichever day you please.

This!

I do this sometimes if I have already hit "day complete" and I end up eating something after.  Last night I my eating day was done @ 9 pm; my hubby went to store and came back with a milkshake.  I had a few sips (so good) but didn't log it until this morning. So I'll eat 200 calories less today to allow for that treat last night.

It doesn't matter what time you eat: that is an old wive's tale.

For your purposes, it doesn't matter what you do with it, as long as you trend having a deficit.

How I handle it: The new day begins after I wake up.  Why?  it's easier that way for me.

I think either way works as long as you're consistent. Pick one way or the other and stick to it. I work off-hours -- so I eat breakfast at noon/1pm, lunch at 7pm, and dinner at 1-2am, so I use the "if I haven't slept yet, it still counts as the same day" method.

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Thanks for everyone's thoughts on this matter.


I don't do this typically, it was actually just a 1-night thing. I logged my late night splurge for the next day's breakfast, and ate less during that actual "next day".

The motivation to look better has been all I need not to cheat or lie to myself for this diet. I've lost 3 or 4 lbs since starting this thing 8 days ago - and that's all I need to stay on the right path.

The funny thing is, I can't believe how much energy I have, even though I'm eating probably 1500 calories less than I used to. Maybe it's the coffee, I don't know.

Either way, my body has adjusted to the new 1500 daily limit. I don't get hungry that often, and I haven't had a headache since I started.

I believe the reason your body does not ask for more food is that by eating healthy it is getting the required nutrients. When you eat junk food due to all the empty calories in it the nutrients required are not met so the body keeps craving for more food. Something on the lines of the cravings women get during pregnancy.

Original Post by bakesalee:

Example:

I am wildly successful at maintaining 1500 calories "for the day" (I wake up around noon by the way).


But then I find myself gorging 500 calories of snacks around 5am (before I go to bed mind you). Can I put it towards my "breakfast" of the next day so long as I don't eat anything when I wake up, or does it not count since I had it before I went to sleep?

Argument that it's OK: It was at 5 am of "the next day" anyways.
Argument against: You had it before you went to sleep so it's technically still "yesterday"

I could see it both ways.

In a related thought, before this came up, I was wondering if my calorie count should be of the official day (12am-12am) or during my waking hours. Different counts depending on how you choose. What should I do?

Haha! I've totally done this.

Personally, I don't think it matters and as others have said as long as you use a 24 hour cycle (which you can decide on) then go for it!  I tend to stay up late and get up later but I use the 12 AM - 12 AM cycle because it works for me.  Anything after 12 AM that goes in my body gets logged on next day's food.  I still eat breakfast but I log whatever I eat after 12 AM under "other" or "snack".  I don't like starting my day with calories already eaten so it helps to stop me from eating a couple hours before I go to sleep (usually I don't have an issue unless I am drinking alcohol--and then things might go in my body after 12 AM).  That's what works for me.  But, I am a little backwards ... I also workout pretty late in the evening (sometimes as late as 10 PM or 11 PM) and a lot of people think that we shouldn't eat so late or workout so late ... but it's what works for me so that's what I do ... until it stops working for me and then I will try something different! =)  Good luck!

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