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Juice Detox Diet? Man loses 100lbs in 60 days in documentary.


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Recently, I watched the documentary "Fat, Sick & Nearly Dead" and it really changed the way I think about food. Basically, it's about an Australian man who is extremely unhealthy, on the verge of obesity, and has an auto-immune disease which causes him to break out in a painful rash all over his body. 

He changes his life around by buying a quality juicer and going on a juice 'fast' for 60 days. (Technically it is a fast since everything you eat is in liquid form and you stomach does not have to digest a solid food)

The juice is nothing but fruits and vegetables. No meat. No animal products whatsoever. Joe, the Australian guy, loses about 100lbs over the sixty days AND cures himself of his auto-immune disease and doesn't have to take his meds for it anymore. And he does this all in accordance with his doctor who monitors his health throughout the fast. His cholesterol went back to normal and his blood pressure was back to normal also.

My first impression was that it wasn't right because our bodies need protein right? And that means meat! But in the documentary they explain everything, about how we can obtain all needed nutrients AND protein from fruits and vegetables alone. Joe explains that of course you cannot stay on a juice detox your entire life, that you should be careful to wean yourself off of it by eating mainly whole foods and keeping a healthy diet, as every person should. But you can do small juice detoxes throughout your life as it has many health benefits even if you are already fit. 

I am thinking about going on this juice thing myself for at least 15 days to see what kind of affect it takes on my body.  

"Fat, Sick & Nearly Dead" is on Netflix Instant so you can watch it on your computer if any of you are interested, I recommend it. 

If any of you have watched it already what do you think? 

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I haven't seen it but I had it on my Netflix instant list for a long time and meant to watch it before I canceled my Netflix.

I've gone on the master cleanse before which basically consists of only drinking water mixed with fresh squeezed lemon juice, cayenne pepper, and maple syrup in large quantities for various lengths of time.

I have mixed feelings about liquid fasts. If you're doing it to lose weight, I don't think it's a good idea at all. You should adjust your eating to a healthy, manageable regimen that you can sustain for the rest of your life comfortably to lose weight. Not deprive yourself of calories and nutrients for prolonged periods of time to lose weight quickly.

Did they do a revisit of the man a few months down the line to see how well he was doing? I just think that by going on a juice fast, you're not reteaching yourself how to eat healthy portions, listen to hunger and fullness ques, thinking about food differently, etc. You're basically doing a quick fix, and those rarely work.

On the other hand, if someone at a healthy weight is using a cleanse to try and detox their body or something, I have less of a problem with it. But our bodies detox naturally. You don't need to drink only juice to detox. And when our bodies go prolonged periods without protein, muscle starts getting broken down, which no one wants. And when you juice fruits and veggies, you lose all of the fiber that they naturally have. We need fiber and protein to be healthy. So I just don't think it's a very healthy thing to do regardless of why you're doing it.

The documentary follows him for almost a year I think? Because after he's done with his fast he eats healthy things since he learned what it felt like to eat a healthy diet. Another guy with the same rare auto-immune disease in worse shape asks for his help and basically goes through the same thing. I was going to do this to lose weight and also teach me that eating crap means I will feel like crap. 

The documentary shows different people trying it out for short periods (you don't have to go for 60 days like Joe did) and how they learn from it, that eating healthy has much more of an effect than they initially thought. It certainly didn't come off as a 'quick fix' to me because apparently it is quite challenging! They explain clearly that it is NOT something you can do for the rest of your life but rather something you can learn from since when people start to eat healthier they feel it as a negative thing rather than 'this is good for me and I feel great'. The juicing is to make digestion easy, and getting the good feelings that come with eating healthy faster. 

The juicing doesn't cause the vegetables to lose their protein, fiber is lost, yes, but you have to remember your body is digesting liquid at this time, so much less fiber is needed to push juice through your system. And no one said you just throw away all the pulp you have left after you juice something. It can be used to flavor water and other things. 

If you think drinking pure fruit and vegetable juice is unhealthy yet you drank nothing but lemon juice, cayenne pepper and maple syrup I really don't know what to say! Except that maybe you should give the documentary a chance

 

Hmm. I have a hard time believing that curing auto-immune diseases is as simple as eating healthy. I'm a first year nursing student and I don't have extensive knowledge about auto-immune diseases, but it doesn't make much sense that by getting rid of processed foods and instead only drinking fruit and veggie juice it would prevent your immune system from attacking healthy tissue. Like I said, I haven't watched it, so I really don't know...but are you sure that the doctor prescribing this regimen was a real doctor that had attended medical school and not just some natural path doctor?

Anything that allows you to lose weight at a rate of 100lbs in 60 days is most definitely a quick fix. Quick fix doesn't mean that it's easy, it just means that it's a fast fix for being overweight for those that don't wish to lose weight in a more healthy and slow manner. Losing weight is never easy. Unless you get some sort of weight loss surgery or something. Weight loss requires lots of exercise, calorie restriction, and will power. If you're losing more than 2 pounds a week, the chance that you'll be able to keep it off isn't very good. And if you're surviving on fruit and veggie juice for a prolonged period of time, you're going to lose weight more quickly than 2 pounds/week.

Doing this diet wouldn't teach you how to live a healthier lifestyle...this is really no different than people that go on any other fad diet. What are you going to do when the diet is over? Instantly know how to eat healthy foods in a healthy amount? Because most people that do things like this might stick to a healthier lifestyle for awhile, but then they revert back to their old ways and start eating unhealthy again and gain all of the weight back.

I never said that the master cleanse was healthy or a good weight loss technique. I did it when I was 18 and wanted to get skinny for prom. I knew from the beginning that it wasn't a permanent solution...I lost probably 25 pounds or so in less than a month and then I gained all of it back plus more in the next few months. I would never go on the master cleanse or any other fast again because I'd rather have a permanent solution to my weight, even if it's more difficult and takes a bit longer.

I'm not trying to put down the program you saw or anything like that. But you asked for opinions and that's what I gave you. You can do as you wish, but I think that the majority of the people on here will suggest that you lose weight by reducing your calories and increasing your exercise.

I saw the documentary recently and have been juicing as a supplement but not exclusively.  I have read from other sources that a juice only diet can coat the intestines with veggie sediment after while, preventing the intestines from absorbing nutrients.  I think juicing is a great way to get your vitamins and the daily requirement of vegetables and fruits but needs to be combined with whole high fiber foods to keep the digestive tract clear. 

Unless you burn 6000 calories per day, it's impossible to lose 100 lbs of fat in 60 days.  You said this guy was nearly obese?  It sounds like he must have been morbidly obese if he was 100 lbs overweight.  I can't see how it would last when going off the fast, if nothing else, the intestines will fill back up and add weight.

 

I know someone else who eats this way, smoothies I think though, not juicing.  She was eating 3000 calories per day though, so no weight loss (she gained.)  She basically a raw, vegan who eats fruits mostly with greens as well.  She believes that she might cure her type 1 diabetes.  All food has some protein, so supposedly if you eat all the required acids from fruits and veggies that will be enough.  She sleeps 12 hours per night though, which is so abnormal that it makes me really question her supposed improved state of health.

I just have to say that i was standing in line at the store and I listened to this lady trying to convince her friend to take up the "juicing diet."  A few minutes later, that lady's husband came up and  listened for a few seconds before saying, "Are you telling her about the juicing diet?"  I was just shocked that these people thought this was healthy.  Now I know where they got the idea.

Yeah...it's not a good idea.

This is a site that promotes healthy weight loss. Not essentially starving yourself. Which is what you would ultimately be doing. I don't think you're going to get much support on here regarding using this as your weight loss solution.

I heard about this diet from someone and asked a Doctor about it, He said it was ok to do as long as you considered it an emergency "reset" button. i read the recipe's and they seem pretty tasty and I actually do this for lunch once a day. (conveniently the coffee shop up the street has a pure fruit and veg smoothie)

The idea is basically to clean out anything you have been used to eating from your brain and body and start your nutrition fresh and healthy. 

The detox is 60 days but the diet is forever. He didn't lose the 100 in 60 days he lost over time. Even with a doctor sanctioned and monitored starvation diet (the diabetic 600 for example) you probably won't lose 100lb in 2 months. The guy was morbidly obese, close to 400lb if I remember right. 

It's pretty extreme, but these guys were exceptionally overweight and it did help them... the doctors monitored them fairly closely. I think it's a little sketchy the way they endorse it, especially since the average person may get ideas. I personally like green smoothies. Not as your only food of course, but it's fast like juicing and you're actually getting everything in the fruits/vegetables.

Everyone can benefit from occasional fasting.

 

People are so misinformed it's disgusting. They actually think if you don't eat for a week you'll keel over and die. I assure you, our cavemen ancestors were not eating 3 meals a day every single day. 

Original Post by healthyhabit:

Everyone can benefit from occasional fasting.

 

People are so misinformed it's disgusting. They actually think if you don't eat for a week you'll keel over and die. I assure you, our cavemen ancestors were not eating 3 meals a day every single day. 

What is the benefit of fasting?

And we're not talking about a week of fasting. We're talking about 60 days of fasting. Not quite the same.

Original Post by healthyhabit:

People are so misinformed it's disgusting.

How's that leaky gut treating you?

As someone who has studied toxicology and pharmacology at the undergraduate and graduate level, trust me when I say that your body can detoxify itself.  You don't need a "master cleanse", a juice diet, or even eat organic.  Your body is equipped with the necessary enzymes (in your kidneys and liver) to break down any "toxins" and excrete them.  So unless you have sever kidney and liver problems, you can eat things that are processed, that have preservatives and chemicals and be just fine. 

I'm also highly skeptical that by just juicing fruits and vegetables this man was cured of his auto immune disease.  Yes, fruits and vegetables are important for good health, but autoimmune diseases are mostly genetic and have nothing to do with nutrition.

Original Post by acaceres612:

As someone who has studied toxicology and pharmacology at the undergraduate and graduate level, trust me when I say that your body can detoxify itself.  You don't need a "master cleanse", a juice diet, or even eat organic.  Your body is equipped with the necessary enzymes (in your kidneys and liver) to break down any "toxins" and excrete them.  So unless you have sever kidney and liver problems, you can eat things that are processed, that have preservatives and chemicals and be just fine. 

I'm also highly skeptical that by just juicing fruits and vegetables this man was cured of his auto immune disease.  Yes, fruits and vegetables are important for good health, but autoimmune diseases are mostly genetic and have nothing to do with nutrition.

^^ Completely agree.

Of course the body can detox itself, but it's the cumulative effect that wears people down. Heavy metals from seafood and aluminum-bleached/deoderized/processed foods gets absorbed by our body and doesn't get excreted for a long time. 

We overload on sugary **** like high fructose corn syrup which means our liver is stressed because unlike glucose, fructose metabolism falls ENTIRELY on the liver. Your body is not meant to run 24 hours 7 days a week. It's meant to take breaks periodically.

Benefits of fasting:

-Longer lifespan (proven time and time again)
-Cancer cells/tumors that do not have a glucose food source undergo autolysis and die off. 
-Human Growth Hormone increases 
-Weight loss
-Brain development from ketone production
-Chelation occurs in adipose tissue and anything trapped in there is excreted. 
-Reduces stress on liver, kidney, pancreas and intestinal tract. 
-Gastric acid replenishes and allows us to better digest protein (meat/dairy products/wheat products.)
-Cell division/replacement occurs more efficiently because protein synthesis from DNA/RNA is not interrupted by foods we eat.


Original Post by healthyhabit:

Of course the body can detox itself, but it's the cumulative effect that wears people down. Heavy metals from seafood and aluminum-bleached/deoderized/processed foods gets absorbed by our body and doesn't get excreted for a long time. 

We overload on sugary **** like high fructose corn syrup which means our liver is stressed because unlike glucose, fructose metabolism falls ENTIRELY on the liver. Your body is not meant to run 24 hours 7 days a week. It's meant to take breaks periodically.

Benefits of fasting:

-Longer lifespan (proven time and time again)
-Cancer cells/tumors that do not have a glucose food source undergo autolysis and die off. 
-Human Growth Hormone increases 
-Weight loss
-Brain development from ketone production
-Chelation occurs in adipose tissue and anything trapped in there is excreted. 
-Reduces stress on liver, kidney, pancreas and intestinal tract. 
-Gastric acid replenishes and allows us to better digest protein (meat/dairy products/wheat products.)
-Cell division/replacement occurs more efficiently because protein synthesis from DNA/RNA is not interrupted by foods we eat.


What's your source of this information? Have scientific trials really been performed to prove all of these things?

Original Post by healthyhabit:

Benefits of fasting:

-Cancer cells/tumors that do not have a glucose food source undergo autolysis and die off. 

I'm pretty sure that if fasting cured any sort of cancer, we all would have heard about it.

I saw this documentary and was considering it as well.  From my research it seems fairly common to have a headache for the first three days, but that goes away.  Other common problems are you have to drink veggie juice not just fruit juice or you get too much sugar.   I am currently looking for a juice bar in my area that makes carrot+beet+kale juice to see if I can stomach it before splashing out $200 for a juicer.

The worst reaction I read about on some blog was probably more food poisoning than juice-related with vomiting etc. so make sure you wash your veggies.

 

The 100% juice diet does seem a bit extreme, but a meal replacement veggie juice seems more reasonable.

Original Post by silver_dragon_girl:

Original Post by healthyhabit:

Benefits of fasting:

-Cancer cells/tumors that do not have a glucose food source undergo autolysis and die off. 

I'm pretty sure that if fasting cured any sort of cancer, we all would have heard about it.

^^ I completely agree. I really don't understand why you wouldn't just eat fruits and veggies and have a balanced diet in general. People that are at a healthy weight and have a healthy diet are less likely to get so many different health problems. You don't need to survive on fruit and veggie juice in order to improve your health. And people that use juice fasts to lose weight probably gain their weight right back, which definitely isn't healthy.

Original Post by amethystgirl:

Original Post by healthyhabit:

People are so misinformed it's disgusting.

How's that leaky gut treating you?

 *tacklehugs AG*

 

 

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