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The Juice Diet


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So, I'm finally buckling down and doing it. I was interested in the juice diet for rapid weight loss and also for cleansing the body of toxins, but I don't have a juicer. So this week, I am ONLY eating raw and steamed veggies, raw fruit, and maybe some raw nuts here and there for protein.

Does anyone have any experience with the juice diet? Any advice before I get started?

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Don't bother.  It can be quite refreshing for a day or so as a mini detox.  But man cannot live on juice alone.  You'll feel horribly hungry, rather lethargic and then your appetite will die as your metabolism packs up all together.   Most of the weight lost initially is fluid.   You need a balanced diet across all the foodgroups to function properly.  Make it 'real food', watch the portions and do some exercise. 
It's rapidand if done properly, you feel amazing and fantastic.  It's very difficult to do though. And when I tried it, my friends didn't really understand and I'm still being teased.  Good luck though.  Make sure you eat/drink enough.

You won't absorb any of the fat-soluble vitamins in the fruits and vegetables you eat unless you take in some healthy fat also, like olive oil.  Or increase the amount of nuts to a daily quantity.

Avocado might be helpful in feeling full and getting healthy fats.

And usually, most of the weight you lose will be water weight.  But you might feel better afterward.  The doctors that I have seen recommend this sort of thing usually suggest it only for only a day, a weekend at most.

Can anyone give me an example of what some of these "toxins" people need to "cleanse" their bodies of are, and how going on a near starvation diet will get rid of them?
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I have a male friend who's lost 20 pounds doing this, but when I did it, I gained weight.

If you are at all sensitive to sugar (diabetic, insulin resistant), you will gain because you're flooding your body with sugar. 

Skip the quick weight loss and go for something healthy and balanced....what's the point with quick loss if you're going to gain it right back?  If you want to continue yo-yo'ing, then go for it.  Personally, I don't want to have to gain and lose the same weight over and over again - it's a pain in the butt, takes way more energy than to maintain, and gets expensive (clothes, pills, gimmicks).

Just learn to lose it once and then maintain.

"Can anyone give me an example of what some of these "toxins" people need to "cleanse" their bodies of are, and how going on a near starvation diet will get rid of them?"

Answer... there aren't any.  Our bodies are very effiicient at sorting out the good stuff from the waste!   Livers and kidneys are tough little organs, filtering away and doing their stuff.   Overload them with junk or alcohol and they'll still carry on working even if you might feel a bit sick/bloated/gripey.  If you've been particularly abusing your system with a poor diet your digestion could benefit from a less stressful day with some fresh vegetables, wholefoods and plenty of water.  But starving does nothing useful. 
Environmental toxins linked to early onset puberty in girls

Chemical toxins: a hypothsis to explain the global obesity epidemic

Even low levels of environmental toxins can damage health

Fetal exposure to toxins could be behind rise in asthma

Someone should probably mention, whenever you eat fruits and vegetables, do your absolute best to clean them thoroughly or peel them so that you don't risk pesticide exposure.  Also, do your best to avoid animal fat, which is where toxins that animals are exposed to get stored.  And don't eat fish from polluted rivers and lakes (which is most rivers and lakes).

100 percent of people carry at least 1 type of pesticide

Discovering the pollution within our bodies

I'm providing these links to information about how toxins enter your body, but I do not mean to suggest that eating only fruits and vegetables will somehow release all these toxins -- that has certainly not been established.  Before the industrial revolution, it was probably true that your liver and kidneys handled things just fine.  But some substances are not well handled by our bodies.  To prevent those substances from causing harm by circulating around our bodies in blood, or storing them in active tissues, when a toxic substance can not be removed by your liver or kidneys, your body stores it in fat cells, which are less active, and where it will do less harm.

The program can work but it very hard if there is low discipline ...My Dr suggests only a day or two at a time to cleanse toxins ...it wont be a complete cleanse...

the Toxins they talk about is the pollution we breathe, metals we absorb Ie: cell phones, microwaves ect,  pesticides in food irraidation in food.   I recommend trying it a day here and there see how you do...I always "give my intestines the day off" on Fridays.  All liquid calories.  I feel amazing.  I've pushed to 3 but I get too tired  and with kids, a personal business it just doesnt work.

Do you have a local nutritionist you can consult they usually have great advise

Try and go all organic if you can  that way you avoid the pesticides and chemicals as much as possible on those veggies and fruits...

 

Good luck  would love to hear how well  you do with this

 

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there is another downside to juicing if you stop and think about it....

You're throwing all the fiber away, which helps to suck up excess cholesterol, bulk your stool, and sweep your intestinal tract clean.  Juicing separates the fiber from the juice....only your trash or garbage disposal gets the best part of the fruit.

If you're not careful, you can also load your calories out of sight and put on fat (especially with all that sugar if you don't burn it off).  If you're used to 12 ounces of juice, you have to take into the amount of fruit you have to use to get there, so you could be eating a lot more than you realize.  It also gets expensive after a short period of time.

If you're diabetic, this could send you into sugar shock.

 

I've been trying the whole "gradual weightloss" thing just by counting calories and such... and while it has been successful over the course of about a year, it hasn't been all that rewarding.  I think I'm the kind of person who needs to see instant results to get motivated.  After I've lost 5-10 pounds this way, maintaining will be pretty easy, since I'm good about exercising and estimating my calorie intake.

And I don't know if you read the whole post, but I don't have a juicer, so I was just planning on eating the fruits whole.  Do you think that will help cut down on those surprise calories?

Ok, so nomoreexcuses and karinhutchins have listed a bunch of bad stuff we are exposed to in the environment, thanks for that.  But I still don't see how going on a starvation diet, or a diet which deprives the body of essential nutrients is going to make it get rid of any of these "toxins" any faster than it normally would, maybe one of you can provide some insites on this...

Going on a starvation diet is NOT a viable option to help remove toxins out of your body (or for any other purpose besides starving to death, which we very much frown upon at this web site).

It might surprise you, but it IS possible to eat a mostly vegetable diet and still get enough calories - however, you do need to get healthy fats also, which is why I suggested including olive oil and/or avocados in my first post to this thread.  You need the heatlhy fat both for the calories and also so that your body can work with the vitamins and stuff that's in the fruits and vegetables.

I am not a doctor, but my understanding (from my doctor) is that the purpose of a practice such as this is to give your liver and kidneys (and skin and lungs) a break from the hard work they do all the rest of the time because of the high level of pollutants you're exposed to day in and day out. 

The more processed your diet, the harder your liver, kidneys, skin & lungs are working to overcome these pollutants.  Also if you don't buy organic, OR if you don't peel your fruits and veggies, OR if you don't soak unpeeled fruits & veggies in vinegar water for 5 minutes before eating or preparing, then you're probably going to ingest more pesticides with your fruits and veggies.

By changing your intake to reduce exposure to these harmful substances for a few days, you will allow your liver and kidneys to recover somewhat so that they can perform their functions more effectively.  I agree 100% with the poster above who suggsted that the whole fruit is better than just the juice. 

Sample Menu

8 am
1/2 cantelope
139 calories 

10 am
1 cup frozen berries
1 cup 50% diluted pineapple juice
1 scoop non-soy protein powder (optional)
blend for 30 seconds
257 calories

11 am
1 cup baby carrots
50 calories

noon
2 cups leafy greens
1 tomato, chopped
1 cucumber, chopped
1 celery stalk, chopped
1 avocado, chopped
juice of half a lime
1/4 cup cilantro leaves, chopped
1/2 tablespoon olive oil 
1/2 tablespoon vinegar
442 calories

2 pm
1 cup seedless grapes
110 calories

4 pm
1 cup raw cauliflower
1/4 cup homemade guacamole (using this as close to homemade)
180 calories

6 pm
Homemade veggie stir fry, sauteed in olive or canola oil (using this to approximate homemade)
2 cups steamed broccoli (my favorite! it's not dinner without broc!)
apple , cut in half, cored, sprinkled with cinnamon & baked
455 calories


Daily Total - 1633 calories

If you need more calories than this, you would need to eat larger portions.  Without the protein powder at 10 am, it would be 1513 calories.

I don't see how eating nothing but fruit will remove enviromental toxins from your body any more then eating anyting else.  It really doesn't make any since to me.  I would think if you wanted to remove enviromental toxins you would make sure to drink water and just eat a healthy diet so you can keep your body working at top efficency.  We arn't fruit bats so I don't know why our body would work its best at removing harmful substances if we are eating like one.
Why would adding lean protein to the above meal-plan make the body less efficient at processing "toxins"?

floggingsully,

Forgive me, but it sounds like you can't or don't want to give up meat for even a couple of days.   That's cool - nobody is trying to force you to.

Meat is digested differently, and places more stress on the kidneys than without it.  (You have probably heard that people who have had kidney problems should NEVER try a high protein diet?)  If the point is to give your kidneys a break, then you give them a couple days off without meat.  There is protein in the plan outlined above, perfectly adequate protein.

But I will say again, following the sample plan I outlined above is no guarantee to rid your body of pollutants.  It's very individual.  Some people have had more exposure to these things than others have.  Right?  Some people might need to do this sort of thing once a week, others once a month, others once a year.  Or if you like, you can choose to never do it and go with a positive attitude that all is well.  If you have no health problems, if you can lose weight steadily and predictably, then you have no reason to try a plan like this.

:)

I agree with floggingsully, "detox" diets are suspect at best. If your body couldn't get rid of toxins, you'd be dead.

HOWEVER, I do agree that a diet with lots of fresh fruits and veggies is better on your body than eating a bunch of crap. I don't think anyone would argue with that. If you feed your body high quality, nutritious foods-it's going to perform better. I would assume floggysully would agree with that. Who wouldn't?

Also, juice fasts are stylized starvation diets.
Original Post by bigpinkandscary0:

So, I'm finally buckling down and doing it. I was interested in the juice diet for rapid weight loss and also for cleansing the body of toxins, but I don't have a juicer. So this week, I am ONLY eating raw and steamed veggies, raw fruit, and maybe some raw nuts here and there for protein.

Does anyone have any experience with the juice diet? Any advice before I get started?

I think the title of this thread is causing people not to read the post.  This member has not stated that she is only going to drink juice only (see bolded text above).

And spiro, perhaps you will reveal your identity and credentials as a biochemistry specialist to categorically claim that exposure to pollutants has no prolonged impact.  I have provided links above to credible sources that say otherwise.

:)

Well smartass, no one said poisons are not poisonous. Show me your evidence on what mysterious toxins are released with a 'detox' diet

Oh, I almost forgot my sarcastic smiley :)

Spiro, I was responding to your claim that people's bodies contain no "toxins" (residuals from pesticides, herbicides, industrial pollutants, and many other chemicals to which people are routinely exposed).

I have stated twice in this thread that there is no guarantee that adopting a 2- or 3-day fruit & vegetable diet will cause your liver and kidneys to be able to clear out any toxins stored in fat cells.  Quite the contrary, because different individuals have different exposure levels and different genetics.   But if you had read any of this thread before so graciously responding here, you would have read where I stated that the purpose of a plan like this is merely to give your liver and kidneys a rest, so that they might be able to perform more effectively afterwards.

Would you like me to reference medical studies that delineate the added stress that animal protein places on the kidneys?  I would be glad to do so.

Original Post by nomoreexcuses:

floggingsully,

Forgive me, but it sounds like you can't or don't want to give up meat for even a couple of days.   That's cool - nobody is trying to force you to.

Meat is digested differently, and places more stress on the kidneys than without it.  (You have probably heard that people who have had kidney problems should NEVER try a high protein diet?)  If the point is to give your kidneys a break, then you give them a couple days off without meat.  There is protein in the plan outlined above, perfectly adequate protein.

I never said people shouldn't give up meat, I said that they need protein to have a healthy diet and asked why adding lean protein (not necessarily meat) to the diet plan you posted would make your body less efficient at processing "toxins".

I was actually a vegetarian for 7+ years so I don't have a problem with people giving up meat, from a environmental perspective it's a much more reasonable and sustainable diet.  What I do have a problem with is people trying to pass of protein deficient diets as "healthy" or "cleansing" when it's a load of bull.

The only real source of protein in the plan you outlined above is from a heavily processed protein supplement.  I find it odd that you'd recommend cutting out processed foods but then suggest something so overly processed as protein powder, wouldn't chicken or almonds be a less processed form of protein?

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