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Juicing to health and weight loss

wspf
Feb 17 2012 13:48
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Iv started a juice fast after watching the documentary "fat sick and nearly dead" and I have to say I'm loving it. I'm slightly over weight by 30 lb but more to the point I just felt sluggish and bloated etc so I veggie clens fast sounded great. I'm no stranger to veggies so after increasing my daily intake and cutting out dairy and meats I then started the fast. I juice 2 oranges or apples in the morning after a warm water half lemon drink, then when I feel like it before lunch I juice a green drink celery, spinach, parsley, carrot, kale mixture 8oz maybe twice a day" not so bad. Evining I do a beet carrot cabbage mix. Less plenty of water I might even have a wakiami seaweed soup with veggie stock as a snack.I try to take in 32 to 64oz a day. You won't feel hungry so long as you don't eat anything specially meat proteins. Lots of variations from juicing blueberries strawberries etc while maintaining mild to little working out. I hit a raw juice bar if I have to be out and away from My juicer at home and work or I'll carry juice with in a cooler but I prefer fresh made. 7 days in iv lost 5 lb first two days 1lb each day so far for a total of 15 lb I'm sure it will platou but I feel great so far. the dr says I'm heathy and my cholesterol, liver etc. It's not without it's negatives in the first day or so but the are nothing to me so far because the results have been great, instinctively satisfying ,and I feel great. Headache first day and toxins flushing out of the body all expected and acceptable and your body is healing quicker iv noticed all around better health. Iv noticed healthier Hair, skin, eyes. Iv not experiences hunger or physical cravings on this but there is a psychological craving for sure specially if I cook for others etc but all manageable. I totally believe that veggie fruit juicing is a mirrical product. I plan on breaking my fast at some point and then going in to a vegan or vegitarian diet or not depending on if I go back to the gym. I recommend you read alot of web sites and get informed before and during. And if you take meds or have health issues consult a dr before starting. Hope you try it and I know you'll have great results. Sorry for the crappy post I did it on my iPhone lol
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Where are you getting your protien?

So many things wrong with what you are doing....

"You won't feel hungry so long as you don't eat anything specially meat proteins."

Uhh.. protein, along with fiber, will make you feel fuller for longer more than any other nutrient.....

"Headache first day and toxins flushing out of the body all expected and acceptable and your body is healing quicker iv noticed all around better health."

Where are these toxins flushing out of your body? How can you prove it? Can you see the toxins? Is your body telling you your toxin levels are lower?

 

 

Um, you're not fasting. You're merely drinking your calories.

Lots of raw veggies?  Sounds great!  ONLY raw veggies, and heaps of fruit sugars? Not so great.

If you're truly read 'alot' of websites, then maybe you should be a little more aware of what a balanced and sustainable lifestyle should be.

 

Saw the video last year.

Did a juice "fast" (or reboot, as the filmmaker calls it) for 45 days. 

Lost 35-40 pounds.

Loved it.  I'll do it again this year.

There are many inspiring and motivating before/after videos on youtube of people who have done this for varying lengths of time.  keywords before/after/juice fast/reboot.

 

I wonder what happened that you're having to do it AGAIN. I thought they key was to lose weight permanently, not do it every year.

thhq
Feb 17 2012 18:45
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Juicing intrigues me, as do all things Lalanne. Why not throw a can of tuna or sardines into the blender too? If it tastes like V8, some fish should make it taste even better.

I'm not kidding around. I have no problems eating meat and dairy, love to eat seafood cocktails, and this would kick up the protein and fat. It would also make a good cold soup, like gaspacho, with some crusty warm bread. Heated it sounds a lot like French soupe de poisson, but simpler to make, and it could top well with some aioli.

Now I need to get a blender.

Not sure if trolling or.....

Original Post by brian_:

Saw the video last year.

Did a juice "fast" (or reboot, as the filmmaker calls it) for 45 days. 

Lost 35-40 pounds.

Loved it.  I'll do it again this year.

There are many inspiring and motivating before/after videos on youtube of people who have done this for varying lengths of time.  keywords before/after/juice fast/reboot.

 

I haven't seen the film,but I do hope no one is going 45 straight days without any kind of protein..that's probably not so good, right? I mean, if you're losing that much weight so quickly and not having enough protein, then..huh..I'll go google a little before being a downer, but that sounds like it could be a bad idea.

 

 

Congratulation on fasting, my husband did something similar for 30 days this year and he felt great, stopped snoring, lost weight and really experienced some good soul searching. He is now on a balance calorie based diet and he is continuing to loose weight. I did a lot of research on fasting, liquid fasting (juice-vegetable) etc when he first decided to do it because I was worried and negative... and I discovered it is really healthy and good for you. Sorry others are a bit negative towards you, I think it is a normal reaction because people just don't understand that it take approx. 80 days before your body ( a body with body fat to loose) with actually begin to starve and turn on itself in terms of protein and muscle deterioration and any other issues and that is on a water only fast. The body will use stored fat as fuel with no problem. It sounds like you have done your homework, ! I hope you continue to feel great!

thhq
Feb 17 2012 21:21
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Mods PLEASE lock this thread.

 it take approx. 80 days before your body ( a body with body fat to loose) with actually begin to starve and turn on itself in terms of protein and muscle deterioration and any other issues and that is on a water only fast. 

Is there any evidence of that.

First of all, all the people that I have spoken to or read about that have fasted anywhere from 10 days to 40 report it as a great experience. I don't personally know of anyone going longer, just what I read/researched when my husband fasted for 30 as a spiritual renewal.

this is what i read:

During the absence of food, the body will systematically cleanse itself of
everything except vital tissue. Starvation will occur only when the body is
forced to use vital tissue to survive. Although protein is being used by the
body during the fast, a person fasting even 40 days on water will not suffer a
deficiency of protein, vitamins, minerals or fatty acids. In the breakdown of
unhealthy cells, all essential substances are used and conserved in a most
extraordinary manner. There is an unwarranted fear of fasting that strength
diminishes from the catabolism of proteins from muscle fibers. Even during long
fasts, the number of muscle fibers remains the same. Although the healthy cells
may be reduced in size and strength for a time, they remain perfectly
sound.
A. J. Carlson, Professor of
Physiology, University of Chicago, states that a healthy, well-nourished man can
live from 50 to 75 days without food, provided he is not exposed to harsh
elements or emotional stress. Human fat is valued at 3,500 calories per pound.
Each extra pound of fat will supply enough calories for one day of hard physical
labor. Ten pounds of fat are equal to 35,000 calories! Most of us have
sufficient reserves, capable of sustaining us for many weeks.

I am not suggesting it as a lifestyle but i do believe from what i have read and what people have told me that there are many health and mental benefits to fasting. I just wanted to show my support to this person as I was a bit taken by the barrage of negative comments they received. Maybe this is just the wrong forum for wspf to be discussing this subject on.

 

I don't think that all fasts are a bad idea, but I think they need to be well planned and executed.  I don't see anything in what you provided about a good way to do fasting.  These sources, if they are correct, just provided a timeline in which you can expect not to die, which is not the most reassuring basis for a plan.

I just watched it yesterday and I'm really wanting to start this. It's amazing how much these guy's blood pressure, cholesterol and LDL levels decreased in that amount of time. I was truly inspired by the documentary as were my parents.

We plan to start juicing by the middle of march. I'm interested to learn more about your progress as the time goes by.

I also have read that fasting for short periods of time, as little as 24-48 hours can be very good for you.  I personally don't know if I could do it and drinking the juices that the OP mentioned sounded nasty as heck except for the orange and apple juices.  With that said however, if research is done, and your doctor is consulted beforehand, it could be a beneficial exercise. I had considered it, read a little on the internet about it, but figured it would be torture not to eat any food at all so nixed the idea.  Good luck to those that follow doctor's guidelines and have the self discipline.

It's in point of fact a nice and useful piece of information. i am satisfied that you just shared this helpful information with me,

I wasn't so sure about going 40 days without protein being  a fabulous idea, but I watched the film after seeing this topic, and I must say..his achievements were nothing short of amazing.

I juiced just this evening, actually. Cucumber, celery, and a bit of lime to de-nastify.

It wasn't half bad, really.

I had a day off from my usual plan this weekend, and just might green juice myself tomorrow and see how that feels.

I suppose this means a trip to the organic produce section and piles of stuff, but..it can't hurt, right?

 

wspf
Feb 21 2012 06:01
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Thank you one and all for your support, concerns and questions. Tho I'm not an expert. I have like some of you read much on the subject as well as consult a few more qualified individuals on the subject and for me there was nothing to loose but a few of my favorite junk foods and nights out eating my favorite things lol. And beer lol

As for the protein questions I refer to the opinions of trusted individuals in the health field plus the data iv read and information on web sites such as http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.htm That all agree that people are too obsessed with protein amounts when it comes to a vegan vegetarian lifestyle... I'll tell you I was like that too before educating myself a bit. You do get protein from vegetables and more than enough for daily routines. And for sure for survival lol thanks for the concerns. Maybe not for body building but I can do that later.

Mixing up my veggie routine and verity is key to a healthy experience. I keep carrots in my routine but not excessively I don't want to turn orange after all lol and what the vitamin A does for your skin; firmer brighter etc!! The true beauty product. the only thing no cosmetic company is making billions on I can tell you this I'm on day 8 I feel awesome I look awesome and I'm constantly on cloud nine with exceptional outlook on most everything and extremely productive with great energy. I'm amazed Iv live all my life one way feeling bloated etc and under energized never realizing it could be better till I did this and realized its possible and it wasn't something I could understand till I tried.

Just be responsible try and take things easy after all the point is to detox and repair that takes rest. And like I said consult a dr for your individual circumstances. Oh and as for the toxins they are released in many ways do some reading. The lemon cayenne pepper honey warm water drink in the morning... Helps to evacuate things :-/ lol drinking 16 oz of water or so is key iv found but that 3rd glass and 30 min be warned "a farts not always a fart" lmao sorry for the candidness. You can do the homeopathic bowel clearing like me or go the enigma rout but it is suggested to do one of them. Lol all I can say is read up but you'll only realize all the benefits once you try it. Again thanks all Good luck and happy juicing
Original Post by armandounc:

I wonder what happened that you're having to do it AGAIN. I thought they key was to lose weight permanently, not do it every year.


I lost only about 40 pounds during my reboot.  I still have a lot of weight to go.  The holiday season was approaching so I decided to break my reboot up into multiples so I could eat with my family during the holidays.

Also, juice fasting (or "reboot" which I think is a more accurate term) is not just a one-time event.  People continue to do it on a regular basis for the benefits of healing, weight loss and cleansing.  Joe Cross, the man who made the movie continues to do much shorter reboots a couple times a year.

 

Original Post by raychelc:

Original Post by brian_:

Saw the video last year.

Did a juice "fast" (or reboot, as the filmmaker calls it) for 45 days. 

Lost 35-40 pounds.

Loved it.  I'll do it again this year.

There are many inspiring and motivating before/after videos on youtube of people who have done this for varying lengths of time.  keywords before/after/juice fast/reboot.

 

I haven't seen the film,but I do hope no one is going 45 straight days without any kind of protein..that's probably not so good, right? I mean, if you're losing that much weight so quickly and not having enough protein, then..huh..I'll go google a little before being a downer, but that sounds like it could be a bad idea.

 

 

If you plug in all the vegetables that you juice into the CC food log, you'll find that you do get protein from them.  Animals are not the only source of protein, nor an essential source of protein, contrary to what the cattle/meat industry would like us to think.

It is total overkill to have animal protein for every single meal of every single day of one's life, as Americans think is necessary.  Even body builders don't need it, and certainly not the protein supplements.  It's all marketing.

Ask anyone from a culture that doesn't indulge in animal protein as Americans do.  The Chinese will tell you they are doing just fine with the comparatively modest animal proteins they consume, which are used mostly just for adding taste to the meal instead of being the primary focus.

For Breakfast you have eggs and bacon... maybe an egg, cheese and sausage McMuffin on your way to work.  For lunch you have a chicken Caesar salad at the company cafeteria or go through the Carl's Jr drive through and snatch up a half-pound Angus burger.  For dinner you sit down and have lasagna or any of a million other things that are packed full of meat.  It is actually very hard to think of a meal that doesn't have meat in it.  And that contributes to our obesity epidemic.  It's much more work to eat healthy.  It is much easier to just throw a pre-packaged dinner in the oven or go through a drive-thru restaurant.

8.5% of my diet was protein while I was juicing.  According to WebMD a person should be getting from 10% to 35%. WebMD also mentions that even though an endurance athlete needs about 50% more protein than a sedentary person, most Americans, including athletes get enough protein from their diets and don't need protein supplements.  I take this to mean that we all eat more protein than we need.  8.5% still compares quite favorably to other countries and cultures.

Interestingly and Sadly, the trend shows that even the young Chinese are falling for the same propaganda and feel that they have to eat much more meat and visit those new McDonald's restaurants that are popping up everywhere.  McDonald's certainly can benefit from the population thinking that it is not only healthy, but essential to eat more meat. 

You'll be just fine living 45 days on a raw fruit and vegetable diet.  It is likely healthier than how you and most Americans are eating now.

Forks over Knives is an interesting movie about how Americans eat too much animal based protein based on findings from the China Study.  Not just too much, but dangerously so.

 

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