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sick and eating too much

yau3
Apr 28 2011 11:56
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i was sick today with a flu and ate like nothing but carbs, bread, rice and chocolates all day ... feeling nauseatic at everything else. 

My calorie limit is way over, but i've got sore throat and diarrhea, and slept very little. will i gain any weight ?

if its 1 day of mega carb loading ? i mean, i ate 3000 calories of carbs purely!! and i''m really sick. 

thanks all. 

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You're sick.  Your body desperately needs fuel to fight off the infection.  Don't worry about weight loss, don't worry about carb loading, just eat what your body tells you to, and get better.  Once you're better, you can get back on track.

And no, you probably won't gain much if any weight - it's most likely going to go right through you without being fully absorbed.

Dude, one day won't do you in.  Besides, your body is fighting an illness: It needs food, if you can eat.  Forget about calorie counting when you're sick--you have bigger priorities.

Why don't you try some chicken soup/broth or something?  Not for calorie control but because it will probably feel better to you than bread and sugar.

If you do "gain" weight, most if will be from food/water weight from eating more carbs.  They hold more water plus your sodium was probably up as well.  Just get back on track when you feel better :)

Actually when the body is fighting illness, you're supposed to give it "fuel" by not eating. If your stomach is not busy digesting, then your body's healing resources can be used. So stop eating if you can. (I know that's easy to say. ;)

but I still think you're fine and won't notice a difference. Just go back to the healthy eating tomorrow. :)

Original Post by rcgunnels:

Actually when the body is fighting illness, you're supposed to give it "fuel" by not eating. If your stomach is not busy digesting, then your body's healing resources can be used. So stop eating if you can. (I know that's easy to say. ;)

That doesn't really make sense, and I'm pretty sure the "starve a fever, feed a cold" or whatever thing, is a wives' tale.  I mean, she shouldn't eat if she's not hungry, but she should if she is.  Eating and drinking will keep her from getting dehydrated, and getting dehydrated won't help her recover.

It doesn't make sense to you because of a wives tale? "Feeding a cold" doesn't make sense to me because of what I've learned about nutrition and the digestive system. What makes sense to me is that the resources necessary for the stomach to digest modern-day food will most certainly steal from the energy reserves used to heal the illness. It should also be mentioned that most animals fast when they are sick.

Original Post by rcgunnels:

Actually when the body is fighting illness, you're supposed to give it "fuel" by not eating. If your stomach is not busy digesting, then your body's healing resources can be used. So stop eating if you can. (I know that's easy to say. ;)

but I still think you're fine and won't notice a difference. Just go back to the healthy eating tomorrow. :)

I doubt the validity of this.  Your body needs energy to fight off infections.  Sure, it won't be busy digesting, but you also won't have sufficient energy to function at its optimum level.

And in addition to the calories needed for recovery from sickness, you need vitamins and other nutrients.  Fasting during illness is ridiculous.

I have bronchitis right now that's real bad; I still have 2 days of antibiotics left and hit the gym for the first time in almost 2 weeks today. Anyways when I was really sick last week (I didn't leave the couch for a week), I ate what I could, when I could. I actually have lost weight even though I was sedentary but I had no appetite most of the days. Being sick causes you to burn more, I believe plus carbs are the easiest thing to break down for your body and that is what you need right now!

Original Post by rcgunnels:

It doesn't make sense to you because of a wives tale? "Feeding a cold" doesn't make sense to me because of what I've learned about nutrition and the digestive system. What makes sense to me is that the resources necessary for the stomach to digest modern-day food will most certainly steal from the energy reserves used to heal the illness. It should also be mentioned that most animals fast when they are sick.

This is fascinating. Please explain how (on a physiological level), temporary increases in blood flow to the digestive tract has a significant impact on the body's immune system or cell repair mechanisms. Don't forget to include references to all the peer-reviewed research that you consulted before coming to this conclusion. Oh, and make sure that you forward a copy of your reply to all the hospitals in the world so that they can get right on with starving their patients. It would definitely save some money for the British National Health Service, and apparently improve cure rates as well!

Edited for spelling.

Original Post by rcgunnels:

It doesn't make sense to you because of a wives tale? "Feeding a cold" doesn't make sense to me because of what I've learned about nutrition and the digestive system. What makes sense to me is that the resources necessary for the stomach to digest modern-day food will most certainly steal from the energy reserves used to heal the illness. It should also be mentioned that most animals fast when they are sick.

 You gain considerably more resources from digesting food than you expend during digestion - if that weren't the case, we'd all burn calories digesting cheesecake and lose weight.  You immune system is also not diverted from the business of fighting infection to monitor your absorption either - those are separate immune defences, with different cells involved.  And as a girl living in farm country, I've never seen an animal fast during an illness - I've watched horses desparately try and eat with a twisted gut, and I've watched sheep continually eat their own vomited grass...thank goodness we aren't as dumb as they are!

I'm not trying to be offensive, so please don't take it as such, but as a health care professional, the advice to "not eat when you're sick" worries me.  I'm sure you learned it somewhere, but you've unfortunately gotten bad information along the way.

I guess I should add a disclaimer to all of my responses that I'm a firm believer in Eastern medicine practices of ingesting only natural, whole foods, regular cleansing of the colon, and responsible fasting. There is a lot of knowledge there untapped by the Western "here have a pill" modern medicine circuit, in which I have very little faith.

That said, one Chinese medicine belief is to fast for a day when ill to allow your body's energy reserves to focus on fighting the illness.

To little miss thang (algylacey), your dripping sarcasm is noted... but you sound silly, advocating a money-driven, chemical-laden health model which is on its way out the door over the next several years. Read about fasting and its effect on health, the body and diseases, and then check back in with that 'tude. No but I mean really read about it. It could save your (or a family member's) life.

Peace!

 

Original Post by rcgunnels:

I guess I should add a disclaimer to all of my responses that I'm a firm believer in Eastern medicine practices of ingesting only natural, whole foods, regular cleansing of the colon, and responsible fasting. There is a lot of knowledge there untapped by the Western "here have a pill" modern medicine circuit, in which I have very little faith.

That said, one Chinese medicine belief is to fast for a day when ill to allow your body's energy reserves to focus on fighting the illness.

To little miss thang (algylacey), your dripping sarcasm is noted... but you sound silly, advocating a money-driven, chemical-laden health model which is on its way out the door over the next several years. Read about fasting and its effect on health, the body and diseases, and then check back in with that 'tude. No but I mean really read about it. It could save your (or a family member's) life.

Peace!

You can believe what you want, but if you want to advocate your (potentially harmful) beliefs to others a little evidence might be in order.

Personally, I'd rather stick with evidence-based medicine where faith and belief are not required. How silly of me!

(Edited to add this: obviously there are areas of science-based medicine where the evidence-base is not well developed and decisions have to be made on the basis of what is known. However, this is still based on scientific principles and scientific plausibility. This is what sets it apart from "natural health" or alternative therapies, some of which have actually been demonstrated not to work or to be harmful without providing any benefit and yet continue to be advocated by their practitioners.)

Largely, the evidence offered by modern medicine is chemical addictions (talk to the Tao about "harmful") yet continued, rampant disease. Fasting for a day is not "potentially harmful" in any culture, by the way.

Original Post by rcgunnels:

Largely, the evidence offered by modern medicine is chemical addictions (talk to the Tao about "harmful") yet continued, rampant disease. Fasting for a day is not "potentially harmful" in any culture, by the way.

I'm sorry, but I'm afraid I simply can't make sense of the sentence that I highlighted. Perhaps you could rephrase it?

Fasting for a day may not be harmful for most people (though is likely to be unpleasant for many), but certainly could be harmful to some people, especially people who are unwell (as the OP was). It's also unlikely to be beneficial to a person's health (unless you would like to provide the references of those peer-reviewed research papers, of course). Furthermore, you didn't advise the OP to fast for a day. You said, "So stop eating if you can" which carries no time limit. Perhaps I am wrong, but I feel it carries the implication that the fast should be continued until the OP is better.

My following sentence was, "So resume healthy eating tomorrow :)" which shows I only suggested to stop eating for the rest of the day. Sheesh. Flamey around here.

It is true that, of course, there are those for whom fasting is not good, which is why I would hope while getting opinions on a message board, one would research and verify, and go with what feels right. I say "feels right" because with so much conflicting information available (and so many of these peer-reviewed research papers of which you speak so highly!), you may have to go with your gut, and experience some trial and error.

 

 

 

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