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A couple of my friends and I started this 21 Day Juice Challenge a couple days ago and I am DYING!!!!!!!!! It was inspired by this guys movie called "Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead", which was pretty interesting btw. But, I feel weak, I have the biggest headache and I'm not sure if I can hang. I'm not a quitter but I have a big Spartan Race that I'm really excited about and its no way I will be ready for the race if I keep juicing for 21 days. The race is September 8th! I don't know if I'm doing something wrong. Am I not drinking enough juice? I don't know. Just curious to know you guys thoughts on juicing...

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First, are you actually using a juicer to make the Green Juice from the movie, or are you just drinking commercial juice?  Because the thing to remember is that Joe in the movie was following a plan drawn up by his doctor - and not only for weight loss; he had a number of other severe health problems as well.  At any rate, the commercial juices you buy in the store aren't going to contain all the nutrients that Joe's Green Juice did and they're not going to fulfill all your dietary requirements

Second, if you are feeling week and have a headache, you need to stop whatever you are doing until you see a doctor and ask if the diet is right for you. The doctor may tell you that feeling crappy for a couple of days is normal on the diet, or she may tell you that you are not an ideal candidate for it and you should stop.  I really, really encourage you to see a doctor before you do this for 21 days.

Finally, I'm with you that the movie was really inspiring but don't go overboard!  Joe's diet plan was a make or break for him because of his multiple health issues and there's no way he or anyone should attempt it without being under a doctor's constant care.

 

If you saw the movie, you would have seen how he felt the first few days. Also, whatever seanchaigirl said.

Not familiar with the diet/movie/book/whatever, but if it involved only drinking fluids for an extended period of time it is a ridiculous, unhealthy diet.

Start eating solid foods.

That definitely makes sense! I was doing a combo of both. When I was home I was making my own. With fruits and veggies and if I was out I would grab a green juice and drink water... That def explains why I felt funny... I know I wanted to detox but the more I think about it the crazier it sounds...

I did this diet for 5 days and thought it was beneficial. As of this diet being unhealthy, you obviously haven't a clue and are speaking from ignorance. 

When changing diet to all raw foods after inundating your body with processed garbage for years, it will take a toll on you. You will feel a bit bad as I did as well. Then you start feeling better and better with more energy. If your working out while doing this, just make sure you keep up your calories.

 

Original Post by jayco141:

I did this diet for 5 days and thought it was beneficial. As of this diet being unhealthy, you obviously haven't a clue and are speaking from ignorance. 

When changing diet to all raw foods after inundating your body with processed garbage for years, it will take a toll on you. You will feel a bit bad as I did as well. Then you start feeling better and better with more energy. If your working out while doing this, just make sure you keep up your calories.

 

Cleanses are bogus.  We are speaking from science.  

If you have a race coming up you can't be depriving your body of needed nutrients like protein and healthy fats.  You need to fuel for your activity level.  For most people this juice diet is not going to be healthy in the long run.  Your cals are probably too low, you are missing out on nutrients and when you go off the juice you could just end up gaining it back.  Personally I would not do it.  Most of the fitness/weight loss sites say do not drink your cals.  They are not as satisfying as eating real food.

Original Post by jayco141:

I did this diet for 5 days and thought it was beneficial. As of this diet being unhealthy, you obviously haven't a clue and are speaking from ignorance.

Excuse me while I laugh for a couple of minutes.

 

Ok, all done.

 

Speaking from ignorance? Do you know anything about nutrition/anatomy/physiology?

 

You, mademoiselle, are the one speaking not out of ignorance, but plain stupidity.

Now by no means did I plan on going back to eating unhealthy after I got off the diet. I know the first couple days are really tough but I just wasn't sure of why I was feeling so weak if I was giving my body nutrients. Its not like Im not consuming anything. Im not starving. I'm just changing the way Im consuming food. By juicing fruits and veggies. To make a full cup of juice takes A LOT. At least 3 or 4 apples,  pineapples, grapefruit, spinach, broccoli, cellery, mangoes, oranges, ginger etc. Its NO way I would be able to EAT all that in one sitting. But juicing didnt seem that bad. I think my real mistake was the NAKED Juice. That's when I started getting headaches, and being so tired.  I didnt plan on doing any heavy working out while juicing but I completely forgot about my RACE! ANd I need the protein and energy to train.

I saw that documentary and it was pretty inspiring, but there is a lot of information out there that you might not be aware of. #1) the body is not full of "toxins" that need to be cleansed by crazy diets. Your organs do a really good job of this already, all you have to do is eat healthy and exercise and they'll do the rest. If you don't believe me, do some actual research. You will never hear a legitimate doctor tell you that you need to cleanse your body of the toxins because it's crazy talk. #2) fruits and vegetables are FAR healthier eaten whole. When you juice them you are stripping them of all of their fiber and just sucking down the sugar water that's left. Sure, you get a lot of nutrients through juicing, but you are getting zero protein, which by the way is necessary to live. 

Juicing is really beneficial to sickly people because it crams them full of the vitamins they need to help heal and repair their damaged bodies. I should also like to mention that if you don't have a really good juicer (one that masticates and presses) then you're not going to be getting much out of the greens that you throw in and you are literally drinking sugar water all day. Drinking a large glass of juice from a juicer probably has more sugar in it than a soda, so think about what that is doing to your body's insulin levels.

I would like to be clear that I am not against juicing, or even short juice fasts. But in general it is wasteful and not a better substitution than a healthy diet.  

Original Post by armandounc:

Original Post by jayco141:

I did this diet for 5 days and thought it was beneficial. As of this diet being unhealthy, you obviously haven't a clue and are speaking from ignorance.

Excuse me while I laugh for a couple of minutes.

 

Ok, all done.

 

Speaking from ignorance? Do you know anything about nutrition/anatomy/physiology?

 

You, mademoiselle, are the one speaking not out of ignorance, but plain stupidity.

I guarantee I know more than you.

Juicing doesn't deprive you of nutrients unless you don't use the proper foods to juice. I have done this diet several times for 5 day stints. It works and works well. I also maintain a healthy diet when I am not juicing.

To say you need solid foods all the time is in fact IGNORANT. To say fasting is unhealthy at all is also ignorant. 

Just because you buy into some BS hype doesn't mean we all have to.

Your too dumb to even laugh at.

A juice-based diet, however, can be a good way of getting far more phytonutrients found in fruits and vegetables than you could normally eat, and going on a "detox" for a few days can also help jump-start a commitment to a healthier diet. Many experts, like Dr. Frank Lipman, tout the psychological effect of going on a juice fast, like motivating you to be healthier overall, or feeling like you can think more clearly. But if you're thinking of going on a juice cleanse to lose weight, know that weight loss doesn't happen for everyone, since many juice cleanse programs include an adequate amount of calories.

Jayco - your argument is called an ad hominem attack, look it up, it makes you look ridiculous. You also have the grammar skills of a 12 year old, so I'm not sure if I can trust your guarantee that you know more than armandounc. First of all, I am not really sure where he said fasting was unhealthy, although that is completely irrelevant isn't it? I am pretty sure we were all talking about a juice-only diet, and yeah, actually there are plenty of scholarly articles (you know, real science) suggesting a juice-only diet is much more unhealthy than actually just eating the fruits and vegetables. I am not sure why you are so angry, but you should probably be more educated about how you are treating your body. Btw, it's "you're too dumb" not "your too dumb." Also, you might want to look up the definition of "hype."

For your viewing pleasure: 

http://dx.doi.org/

type in: 10.1016/S0140-6736(77)90494-9

Well looks like someone is already doing my job for me. Thanks homeskillet.

 

Sometimes people are just so out of touch with reality that I just don't even bother to respond because the arguments are futile.

Anyway, the science is out there. What you choose to do with it is another matter.

Let me first say I am NOT a medical expert or doctor, I am only speaking from my own experience.

Juice fasts, when I have done them, have been very beneficial to me. I find I tend to fall into a mode where I don't appreciate the food I'm eating, and grumble when I eat a salad or fruit instead of a doughnut or french fries. I want to be grateful and love everything I eat, and the juicing brings me back to that place where I appreciate everything I take in. I do the juice fasts correctly, meaning I use a high quality home juicer and take in a lot of juice. Also I make broths of vegetables and herbs. It is about making my body and mind better for the rest of my life. It is like a reset button for me that erases all "cravings" and urges to eat unhealthy processed foods.

The longest I've done a juice fast is for 5 days. I wouldn't suggest trying to tackle a 25 day one first.

The first 2-3 days are the hardest. Be sure to listen to your body.

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