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Wanna lose weight fast? Get your carbohydrates from green vegetables and apples !!


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Hello all: Another tip for fast weight loss is to quit eating starchy-carbohydrates.  And instead replace your starchy carbohydrates with green-vegetables and a couple of apples a day.  This might sound too radical, but starchy-carbohydrates like potatoes, rice, all breads (white and brown), oatmeal, pasta, and all foods made with white-flour increase insulin levels too much.  As opposed to green-vegetables like brocoli, green cabbage and apples.

A good lunch might be: 8 ounces of baked-chicken and a serving of cooked green vegetables made this way:

3 packages of 2 lbs. frozen brocoli (Cooked and boiled separate)

3 shreded green cabbages (cooked seperate)

 Cook the brocoli packages in 1 cooking pot, and the shreded green cabbage in another pot.  When both are done, mix them up in a big pot.  This makes about 7 servings of cooked vegetables for 7 days

 

 

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Before anyone goes too mad cutting out all the starchy carbohydrates they should consider that things like wholemeal bread and brown rice are a good source of B vitamins... not as easily available in other foods.  Sweet potatoes, wholegrains like quinoa, pulses (legumes) and root vegetables are other good choices.  'Fast' weight-loss isn't necessarily a good thing and insulin levels will not be increased too much if consumption of complex carbohydrates is limited to relatively small portions. 

So you don't have to be 'radical' at all.  Green vegetables are excellent but you can lose weight at a safe rate and - more importantly - be healthy by having a good balance across all types of food and watching the calories.

Original Post by binge_eater:

Hello all: Another tip for fast weight loss is to quit eating starchy-carbohydrates.  And instead replace your starchy carbohydrates with green-vegetables and a couple of apples a day.  This might sound too radical, but starchy-carbohydrates like potatoes, rice, all breads (white and brown), oatmeal, pasta, and all foods made with white-flour increase insulin levels too much.  As opposed to green-vegetables like brocoli, green cabbage and apples.

A good lunch might be: 8 ounces of baked-chicken and a serving of cooked green vegetables made this way:

3 packages of 2 lbs. frozen brocoli (Cooked and boiled separate)

3 shreded green cabbages (cooked seperate)

 Cook the brocoli packages in 1 cooking pot, and the shreded green cabbage in another pot.  When both are done, mix them up in a big pot.  This makes about 7 servings of cooked vegetables for 7 days

 

 

100 % agreed! I don't starchy carbs and I haven't for 9 years now! I eat spaghetti squash in place of spaghetti... and I sauteed spinach, broccoli, onions, etc which always make wonderful side dishes for fish & chicken & burgers (grass-fed of course). You're on the right track for sure! Oh and included in the starchy carb category... high sugar fruits... but that's just my opinion and what has worked for me for a long time... people can choose to follow it or not!

Original Post by binge_eater:

 This might sound too radical, but starchy-carbohydrates like potatoes, rice, all breads (white and brown), oatmeal, pasta, and all foods made with white-flour increase insulin levels too much. 

It doesn't sound radical (I've heard this a thousand times before) so much as uneducated and untrue.

Can you please stop spouting this rubbish? I mean honestly... CC is about healthy weight management, which "fast weight loss" does not normally fall under.

Everything you mentioned above can be perfectly healthy as part of a balanced meal. Even for white rice, white pasta and white bread, is it really that likely that you are eating those foods on their own? Mixed with some protein, fat and/or vegetables, those carbohydrates won't affect your blood sugar levels any more than eating any food causes an insulin reaction.

Even better for you are less refined carbohydrates like brown bread and brown pasta, and totally unrefined foods like steel-cut oatmeal and potatoes. As gi-jane pointed out, wholegrain carbohydrates are very nutritious - and bear in mind we need lots of carbs for energy; although fruit and vegetables are carbohydrates, they are low in carbs overall.

If you want to go ahead and restrict your own diet by cutting out valuable and nutritious food groups, far be it from me to stop you. But please stop preaching that everyone else should follow suit - this is not the first thread of this kind I have seen from you.

I would just like to say that your suggested "diet" would cause me to gain weight rather than lose it. Eating like that would be completely boring and I would end up carb-binging after a couple days.

Who says you can't have your cake and eat it too? Wink

I eat starchy carbs and veggie fruit carbs and I am perfectly healthy, lost weight just fine, am trying to maintain yet still losing a little.

And don't lose weight fast that's not healthy nor is it going to be easy to maintain.

I agree with the first post. Haha, actually today for dinner I had some broccoli and cabbage, with salmon. Actually, I had some brown rice too. But that's the only carby thing I have... I try to stay away from starchy things because they spike my insulin levels and cause me to want to binge (and I usually do end up binging...)

So I'm eating mostly veggies with protein and the occasional whole grain thing, usually brown rice or dark rye bread. It's totally working for me. :)

I've tried the lower carb (not atkins-style) lifestyle, and my body simply can not function on it. It needs it's carbs to stay happy and brain-fog free. lol Even cutting them back to just 40% doesn't sit well.

I eat a well balanced diet and as long as I keep my calories at a deficit I lose weight.  plus I get to eat anything I want within reason, PLUS I'm healthy because I eat a well balanced diet.  Duh.

I'm not sure I could eat 3 cabbages in one sitting... I don't do so good with them lol

However, for me personally, I know that if I eat wheat, the weight won't budge. As soon as I give it up though, it comes off slowly. I do eat oats for breakfast and some sort of potato with dinner, but I do concentrate on filling up with extra fruit and veggies. Really works to keep me full

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Original Post by binge_eater:

This might sound too radical, but starchy-carbohydrates like potatoes, rice, all breads (white and brown), oatmeal, pasta, and all foods made with white-flour increase insulin levels too much. 


What's too much?

Perhaps if you considered keeping your diet a little more balanced and less towards the extremes (such as completely cutting out certain types of food), you wouldn't have chosen your user name.

Back of the net..... LOL!

Original Post by giasbash6260:

Original Post by binge_eater:

Hello all: Another tip for fast weight loss is to quit eating starchy-carbohydrates.  And instead replace your starchy carbohydrates with green-vegetables and a couple of apples a day.  This might sound too radical, but starchy-carbohydrates like potatoes, rice, all breads (white and brown), oatmeal, pasta, and all foods made with white-flour increase insulin levels too much.  As opposed to green-vegetables like brocoli, green cabbage and apples.

A good lunch might be: 8 ounces of baked-chicken and a serving of cooked green vegetables made this way:

3 packages of 2 lbs. frozen brocoli (Cooked and boiled separate)

3 shreded green cabbages (cooked seperate)

 Cook the brocoli packages in 1 cooking pot, and the shreded green cabbage in another pot.  When both are done, mix them up in a big pot.  This makes about 7 servings of cooked vegetables for 7 days

 

 

100 % agreed! I don't starchy carbs and I haven't for 9 years now! I eat spaghetti squash in place of spaghetti... and I sauteed spinach, broccoli, onions, etc which always make wonderful side dishes for fish & chicken & burgers (grass-fed of course). You're on the right track for sure! Oh and included in the starchy carb category... high sugar fruits... but that's just my opinion and what has worked for me for a long time... people can choose to follow it or not!

 Hello, oh yeah starchy carbohydrates and sweets, and even fruits high in sugar such as mangos, and pineapples are too high in glycemic index.  So the tactic of losing weight is just not eating less, but eating the right way.

 

Original Post by sweetigem:

I'm not sure I could eat 3 cabbages in one sitting... I don't do so good with them lol

However, for me personally, I know that if I eat wheat, the weight won't budge. As soon as I give it up though, it comes off slowly. I do eat oats for breakfast and some sort of potato with dinner, but I do concentrate on filling up with extra fruit and veggies. Really works to keep me full

Laughing

 Well i didn't mean to eat 3 cabbages in 1 day.  What you can do is cook a lot of green vegetables for about 3 to 5 days.  Because that way you can save some in the refrigerator so that you won't have to cook them every day.  Because cooking foods like vegetables can be very exhausting.

 

Original Post by binge_eater:

  Because cooking foods like vegetables can be very exhausting.

 

You do know that if you ate more carbohydrates you'd probably have the stamina to cook those 'exhausting' vegetables.....Wink

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Original Post by gi-jane:

Original Post by binge_eater:

  Because cooking foods like vegetables can be very exhausting.

 

You do know that if you ate more carbohydrates you'd probably have the stamina to cook those 'exhausting' vegetables.....Wink

LOL...awesome. Case in point.

 

Do you have a medical issue, such as being diabetic or pre-diabetic or hypoglycemic?  How do you know that eating these foods spikes your insulin levels?  Unless you're testing your blood sugar and finding that it's very low you are not spiking your insulin levels, even that is just an indication of low blood sugar not giving actual insulin levels.  Most bodies regulate the proper amount of insulin at the appropriate time to handle the food that we consume.  The bodies that don't manage this should high tail it to the nearest physician for a testing, diagnoses and possible treatment.

There are diets for those with insulin issues which are appropriate for those who do need to carefully regulate their blood sugar levels.  Even those diets cn contain starchy vegetables and grains.  For the rest of the world to say don't eat starchy vegetables or grains is ridiculous.

Starchy vegetables, and whole grains can be part of a healthy diet when consumed in moderation.  As in, limit yourself to 1 serving per meal or prepare yourself to go shopping for larger clothes.  It's not the vegetables and grains that are at fault, it's the overall excess calories.

 

 

Original Post by smwhipple:

Do you have a medical issue, such as being diabetic or pre-diabetic or hypoglycemic?  How do you know that eating these foods spikes your insulin levels?  Unless you're testing your blood sugar and finding that it's very low you are not spiking your insulin levels, even that is just an indication of low blood sugar not giving actual insulin levels.  Most bodies regulate the proper amount of insulin at the appropriate time to handle the food that we consume.  The bodies that don't manage this should high tail it to the nearest physician for a testing, diagnoses and possible treatment.

There are diets for those with insulin issues which are appropriate for those who do need to carefully regulate their blood sugar levels.  Even those diets cn contain starchy vegetables and grains.  For the rest of the world to say don't eat starchy vegetables or grains is ridiculous.

Starchy vegetables, and whole grains can be part of a healthy diet when consumed in moderation.  As in, limit yourself to 1 serving per meal or prepare yourself to go shopping for larger clothes.  It's not the vegetables and grains that are at fault, it's the overall excess calories.

 

 

 Well there are no laws on what you can eat. You can even eat gasoline if you want. I am just saying a scientific based fact, that starchy-carbohydrates increase insulin levels, and elevated insulin levels increase fat-storage. I am just giving people tips on how to lose weight fast and look good, not forcing anybody to give up their italian breads, pastas and rice.

However if you wanna look good, and thin quit eating starchy-carbohydrates, and get most of your carbohydrates from green non-starchy carbohydrates and low sugar fruits like apples.

People have the option of being fat and ugly, or being thin.  But being in shape and thin does require to give up starchy-carbohydrates.

I gave up starchy-carbohydrates and that's why i look a lot better than when i used to eat them

 

Original Post by smwhipple:

Do you have a medical issue, such as being diabetic or pre-diabetic or hypoglycemic?  How do you know that eating these foods spikes your insulin levels?  Unless you're testing your blood sugar and finding that it's very low you are not spiking your insulin levels, even that is just an indication of low blood sugar not giving actual insulin levels.  Most bodies regulate the proper amount of insulin at the appropriate time to handle the food that we consume.  The bodies that don't manage this should high tail it to the nearest physician for a testing, diagnoses and possible treatment.

There are diets for those with insulin issues which are appropriate for those who do need to carefully regulate their blood sugar levels.  Even those diets cn contain starchy vegetables and grains.  For the rest of the world to say don't eat starchy vegetables or grains is ridiculous.

Starchy vegetables, and whole grains can be part of a healthy diet when consumed in moderation.  As in, limit yourself to 1 serving per meal or prepare yourself to go shopping for larger clothes.  It's not the vegetables and grains that are at fault, it's the overall excess calories.

 

 

 And by the way, you are wrong, very wrong, in that all that counts is calories. No the body doesn't work like that. Of course calories do count. but the kinds of food we eat also count !!

You have to learn more, read more about insulin, carbohydrates and hormones

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People have the option of being fat and ugly, or being thin.  But being in shape and thin does require to give up starchy-carbohydrates.

So many things wrong with these two sentences. I was going to rebut but I think I will just leave it alone because I believe they clearly demonstrate your stupidity all on their own.

 

Being in shape and thin does not require giving up starchy-carbohydrates.  Limiting them for most people, but not giving them up completely.  For you personally to make a decision to eliminate them is fine for you although I will mention that I think it's nutritionally unsound to eliminate complete food groups such as grains.

Of course the body works on calories, that is the largest part of the equation.  Too many calories and you gain weight, too few calories and you lose weight.  This is the shortcut to losing or gaining weight in simple terms.  Starchy vegetables contain more calories per volume than green leafy vegetables.  Eat as many potatoes (particularly those deep fried in oil) as you suggest eating broccoli and you gain weight.  If you're having problems maintaining a healthy weight while eating at your maintenance level then you might want to go see a doctor just in case you do have some medical issues.

If you want to get into the details, start with macro elements and then go into the nutrional qualities of individual foods if you want to, that's for each individual to decide.  If you want to get crazy and time your eating to maximize your body, that's entirely up to you.  For most people, simply looking into calories and eating across the food groups is sufficient for obtaining or maintaining a healthy weight.

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