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Why, Why do pant size charts not match up with my measurements? It's really getting on my nerves. With my measurements it's saying I should be wearing size 20-22 when first off even at my biggest I was always in 18 size pants and now my size 16's are loose on me yet it's saying I'd have to have way smaller measurements then I do now to fit into them. I'm really annoyed with this, can someone explain to me why size charts aren't working with me? I can't even tell what measurements I should have to be in a size smaller then I am now 

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Since everything started being mass-produced in China, sizes are completely meaningless. It's not just vanity sizing, either-it's an intentional effort to destroy the American standard. I guess the only thing to do is to try on the pants and find the ones that fit.

Firstly - UK and US clothing comes in the same set of labels, but they mean different things. European don't always match either. Anything designer label may be labelled wrongly for the US depending where it's made, where they found their size chart, and whether it goi shipped to the correct place or not.

Then there's sheer carelessness, where stuff is bulk made and then mislabelled.

Find one of the charts online which compares womens clothing sizes, and see wheether what you are buying matches one of the other countries' ranges. If so, accept it and make a mental note that "so-and-so stock UK sizes not US".

It's the same everywhere, the UK at least.  I'm 'supposed' to be a uk 16-18 and wear a 40a size bra and yet thos sizes fit me like a tent.  I'm a 12/14 and wear a 34d.  Its ridiculous.   But I wouldn't worry too much about it, just pretend you've suddenly lost a few inches lol :P

I'm confused about sizes, too.  When I started on CC in mid-June (at 230 lbs--I am 5'7")  I wore 16-18s.  In no time the 18s were way too big, anf they have gone to Goodwill.  Several weeks later I got rid of my largest size size 16s.  As you all know, sizes are not consistent.  So I've been wearing the smaller of the 16s, and when a I went shopping last week-end I bought a couple of 14s.  I really cannot afford to buy a completely new wardrobe everytime I drop more weight.

Here is something that confuses me, though:  I have been thin in the past, even just five years ago.  I weighed around 150-155, and I wore sizes 8-10.  As of last week I weighed in at 210.  And I wear size 14s?  What's up with that?  It just seems that I could be back in size 10s by the time I weigh 180 or so!   Doesn't seem quite right.

Funny thing happened last year:  I tried on a pair of khaki pants, liked the fit, decidede to buy them, and also picked up an identical pair in black.  Did not try on the black ones, though.  Imagine how frustrated I was when I discovered that the black ones didn't fit! And I had already washed them so I could not return them.  (Yes, lesson learned.)   I couldn't understand it:  Same style, same maker, same size--but not the same fit.  I took out my tape measure and found that the black ones were a full 2 inches smaller in the waistband!  Who does that???  But the good news is that now the smaller black pants fit!

Yeah, I should really stop being so irritated with it, I just hate the idea that size charts are out there to guide people but they're completely useless in my and other people's cases. If they're not helpful why do they even bother?

Original Post by murrill:

I'm confused about sizes, too.  When I started on CC in mid-June (at 230 lbs--I am 5'7")  I wore 16-18s.  In no time the 18s were way too big, anf they have gone to Goodwill.  Several weeks later I got rid of my largest size size 16s.  As you all know, sizes are not consistent.  So I've been wearing the smaller of the 16s, and when a I went shopping last week-end I bought a couple of 14s.  I really cannot afford to buy a completely new wardrobe everytime I drop more weight.

Here is something that confuses me, though:  I have been thin in the past, even just five years ago.  I weighed around 150-155, and I wore sizes 8-10.  As of last week I weighed in at 210.  And I wear size 14s?  What's up with that?  It just seems that I could be back in size 10s by the time I weigh 180 or so!   Doesn't seem quite right.

Funny thing happened last year:  I tried on a pair of khaki pants, liked the fit, decidede to buy them, and also picked up an identical pair in black.  Did not try on the black ones, though.  Imagine how frustrated I was when I discovered that the black ones didn't fit! And I had already washed them so I could not return them.  (Yes, lesson learned.)   I couldn't understand it:  Same style, same maker, same size--but not the same fit.  I took out my tape measure and found that the black ones were a full 2 inches smaller in the waistband!  Who does that???  But the good news is that now the smaller black pants fit!

I definitely understand! It's so weird! And congrats on that at least! I have been frustrated with in consistant numbers but I guess all we really can do is try on the sizes and see what works

I think Sizes have got smaller.

My favourite suit pants I have had years and they are a 16 from Dorothy Perkins.  I can just get in them and fasten them but even when I was lighter I had to get size 18 jeans and then 20.

I used to have some tracksuit pants that fitted me for years at size 16 also and when I needed to replace them I had to get sizes 18 and they are tight on me at the moment..adidas in particular seem to do a small crutch area so had go up to 20 again to be comfy in them all day.

Same for tops.. ones I've had years are smaller 14-16 latest ones I've had to buy 20's.  I think sizes are definitely smaller now! 

Also years back the sizes 22 + were the XL and XXL's now when I look for stuff I'm finding sizes 16- 18 listed as XL and XXL!  I don't think it helps peoples perceptions of how big they are. 

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The only time I've found accurate sizing charts is by going online to a particular brand's site and following their sizing chart.  Depending on the brand I'm wearing, I vary considerably in what size I am.

Original Post by keishari:

Why, Why do pant size charts not match up with my measurements? It's really getting on my nerves. With my measurements it's saying I should be wearing size 20-22 when first off even at my biggest I was always in 18 size pants and now my size 16's are loose on me yet it's saying I'd have to have way smaller measurements then I do now to fit into them. I'm really annoyed with this, can someone explain to me why size charts aren't working with me? I can't even tell what measurements I should have to be in a size smaller then I am now 

I have no idea why...but it's really frustrating. It would be nice to be a consistent size no matter what store you buy jeans from, but that's never how it works. I have size 14's from Old Navy, size 12's from Urban Outfitters, both of which fit, and then I have another pair from Urban Outfitters, exact same size and style, and they don't fit. It doesn't make any sense. If you buy jeans from places like Nordstrom they're sized the same as men jeans (like based on your actual waist size; 26, 32, etc.) and they're usually a lot more consistent, but they're also much more expensive.

I gave up trying to understand several years ago! seriously, I could buy a perfectly fitting size 12 but then not fit a 14! I just buy whatever fits me and looks nice, despite the size.  I'd love to be a consistent 10, but even the cuts are so different on some stuff. Everything is different, and vanity sizing reigns!

Women who should be a 16 fit a 12 because it helps sell pants, women feel good about themselves (as they should anyway) and open those pocketbooks!

I once made a dress from a vintage pattern and I was a dress size 18, when I could walk into Jcpenny's and buy a 12. Sizes have changed with era even!

This doesn't explain (since I think sizing is so messed up there's no way to explain), but over the past ten years, until recently anyway, I've been hovering around the same weight.  And during this time, I've worn anything from a 12 (admittedly with a muffin top) to an 18.

At my THINNEST, i.e. back in very early high school, I was a 10 in adult clothes, 11 in youth.  I'm far bigger now, even after losing weight, than I was then (not to mention wider hips from childbirth) and I'm getting to the point where a 6 is kinda roomy.

A SIX.  The hell?!  I haven't worn a six since I was twelve.  And I was a heck of a lot smaller then than I am now.

I'm with emehart - I'm pretty sure they do it to make us feel all warm and fuzzy inside.  I have to admit, it does feel kinda good to say I'm a smaller size than I was as a young teen, even though I know that's utter BS in reality.

Also, I made my wedding dress five years ago (I was about ten pounds heavier then, my lowest adult weight till now) and it was a 20.  So yeah.  NO sense made there.

I've got a pair of US 18 jeans that I bought about 10 years ago that are the same size as the size 12s that I wear now.

Just sayin'.

Yet one of the many reasons I refuse to shop for clothing online.

Wow... Okay, I'm convinced they do it to make sales but it makes me made. They should really just do it the way male pants are done, I'd rather deal with that then with this crap

Original Post by vbeattie:

This doesn't explain (since I think sizing is so messed up there's no way to explain), but over the past ten years, until recently anyway, I've been hovering around the same weight.  And during this time, I've worn anything from a 12 (admittedly with a muffin top) to an 18.

At my THINNEST, i.e. back in very early high school, I was a 10 in adult clothes, 11 in youth.  I'm far bigger now, even after losing weight, than I was then (not to mention wider hips from childbirth) and I'm getting to the point where a 6 is kinda roomy.

A SIX.  The hell?!  I haven't worn a six since I was twelve.  And I was a heck of a lot smaller then than I am now.

I'm with emehart - I'm pretty sure they do it to make us feel all warm and fuzzy inside.  I have to admit, it does feel kinda good to say I'm a smaller size than I was as a young teen, even though I know that's utter BS in reality.

Also, I made my wedding dress five years ago (I was about ten pounds heavier then, my lowest adult weight till now) and it was a 20.  So yeah.  NO sense made there.

We sound very similar, even my wedding dress being a 20, when I was a 14 in clothing, and maybe 20 lbs over my "perfect" weight, but still a healthy BMI.  I wore an 11 also when I was a teen, and that was skinny, I think I weighed about 140 and was 5'10", now that would be a 4 or something, I have no idea since I haven't weighed 140, well, since then.  LOL  I have been 160, and was a 12 or 14. 

So if I get back to my "wedding weight" (180) what will I wear?  I have no idea, possibly a 12?  I'm an 18 now and weigh 229.  I go down SLOWLY in sizes, like 20 lbs per size because I'm so tall.  And I don't know why, but in most cases, people of similar weight than me (and shorter usually) wear a lower size.  I always wonder if it's because I like my clothing on the looser size and refuse to wear things that are tight, even though that's the current style.

Original Post by twindaze: We sound very similar, even my wedding dress being a 20, when I was a 14 in clothing, and maybe 20 lbs over my "perfect" weight, but still a healthy BMI.  I wore an 11 also when I was a teen, and that was skinny, I think I weighed about 140 and was 5'10", now that would be a 4 or something, I have no idea since I haven't weighed 140, well, since then.  LOL  I have been 160, and was a 12 or 14. 

So if I get back to my "wedding weight" (180) what will I wear?  I have no idea, possibly a 12?  I'm an 18 now and weigh 229.  I go down SLOWLY in sizes, like 20 lbs per size because I'm so tall.  And I don't know why, but in most cases, people of similar weight than me (and shorter usually) wear a lower size.  I always wonder if it's because I like my clothing on the looser size and refuse to wear things that are tight, even though that's the current style.

I wore a 12 at 180.  I found I went down in sizes slowly at first, and then much more quickly at the end.  I moved into a 6 about five pounds ago, and it's getting roomy already.  That makes some sense to me - losing 10 pounds when you're 150 is more noticeable than losing 10 pounds when you're 190.

I'm with you on refusing to wear tight stuff - I honestly think it makes me look chubbier, what with the rolls spilling out and being squashed all over the place.  I've seen quite slender girls with a muffin top, and personally I think it looks pretty silly.  Vanity, amirite?

I agree, the whole "too tight" clothes thing is pretty silly.  As I recall, though, it was 20 lbs per size when I was smaller too, but sizes were different as it's been quite awhile since I was under 200, so who knows.  I also have the whole muffin top thing, even when my clothes fit, a little side effect of getting older I presume as I did not have that when I was younger.  Everything seems to be sagging more in general and I have not lost THAT much weight, it's going to get worse.  :(

i think vanity sizing isn't nearly the problem in canada that it is in the US. still, two things i've noticed:

  1. better quality clothing has more consistent sizing, and,
  2. in sportier clothes, i'm more likely to have to go up a size.

I think one thing that has affected jeans/pants sizing is the different rise of waists. Go to any major label and you'll find two to three options in rise. A low-rise waist is going to be larger circumference (for most of us) than a natural rise. Though my vanity stops when I have to buy jeans my mom would wear to get into a certain size ;).

A lot of ladies are mentioning the differences between a size 11 (which is juniors) and ladies smaller sizes. Juniors sizes are built differently. I'm in my early 20s so I go back and forth between juniors and misses depending on what I'm looking for, and wear completely different sizes in each. It has to do partly with juniors and teens bodies being built differently, so I've always had to go up at least a size because they're built for people with no hips, butt, or thighs. And in my case, I find pants that I can close comfortably, but have to go up a size because the rise is too low in the back, and I like it when my jeans actually cover up my butt.

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