"guys dig curves" garbage

Seriously people, whats with all this 'guys dig curves' garbage? Yea right! If guys dig curves, than why is the stick-thin image promoted? And why do guys only date mainly skinny girls whose legs don't even touch when they walk?

Anyone else in high school notice this? Do you think it's just our age?

Oh yeah, and another anecdote.. A while ago I was showing my friend pictures of '60s models/actresses I adore: Jean Shrimpton, Brigitte Bardot, Twiggy, etc. All of them were fairly thin, except for one: Sofia Loren, who's got AMAZING curves. When we got to her picture, he said "WHOA!" and just as I was about to sucker-punch him for being so rude, he said "She's sexy!" With an eyebrow raised I told him he surely couldn't find her more attractive than the thinner ones I liked best, like Faye Dunaway or Jane Fonda. I proceeded to ask literally every guy in the class and many guys in my other classes who they liked best [before telling them my story], and they seriously were ALL drooling over Sofia Loren. It really made me stop and think, and my definition of "attractive" has honestly never been the same!

[it could also be a cultural thing, but let's not make it about that :p ]

wow revolution3, great post.

really gets ya thinking :)

What I've heard is that generally (and this is not true for every man) boys are attracted to "curves" in the sense that they find a waist/hip ratio of approx. 0.7 to be attractive. And breasts tend to be attractive to them, too. ;)

Of course, healthy curvy is going to be more attractive than fat curvy. Curves aren't the same as rolls. But different boys like different things. You simply can't say that all guys like curves. Or that all guys don't. Still. Keep in mind that generally, "curvy" is small waist, bigger ass.

Well I think that depends on the guy really, my experiences is that guys accept all body types as long as its healthy looking :) not too thin, not obese.

Original Post by amberrr:

Original Post by garnet18:

because the media isn't trying to impress the guys, it's trying to sell to the girls.

they've successfully created the illusion that guys like it (which some do, but most claim they don't), and the girls believe it.

That's it right there. They sell the image of stick thin girls being "hot" which fuels the crazy ideals for women to be that thin, which, in turn fuels the diet industries multi-billion dollar corporation every year.

 

Here is your answer. PORN. Porn stars are curvy - not morbidly obese, diffinatley not emaciated. They have huge boobs, little waists, and generally a full butt. And yes - some have a little skin around there middle that they can pinch because they are humans.

How many men do you see reaching for a vogue magazine so they can oogle all of the so called "perfect anorexic body-types". It's all the girls who do, and we've impressioned in our minds that that is the only way to be beautiful.

I've asked many men which they would prefer, and many say they would rather have an overweight girlfriend (again - not morbidly obese), than an underweight one.

OK this one is too funny.  I was just thinking the same thing, but wasn't going to say it. Ha Ha!!  Great response, kind of goes with the one a couple of pages back, where someone said they had never heard of a guy saying "Look at those ribs".  Again LOL.

I would say to most people on this thread, that there are some good valid points, from a lot of different views.  I heard someone say they have the "right measurements" and still can't get a date, but to be honest most of the women who had the "right measurements" (and I stress MOST, not all) wouldn't have looked at someone like me except when I was 6'1", 230 lbs and in shape for college football.

Course, probably wouldn't have looked at me then either.  I was sort of an arrogant prick.  Ha Ha!!   That having been said, a lot of times guys assume that women with the "right measurements" already have someone in their life or are un-approachable.  Sad fact, I know, but true at times.  Good thing, I took a chance asking out my wife, and she took a chance by saying yes.  Good thing for me she has stuck by me when I got really heavy as well.

I think attitude and happiness with yourself goes a long ways (someone else in another reply stated this as well.)  For myself, I don't care either way as long as they have a good attitude about themselves.  I have friends who run the entire gamut of weight range, super thin to heavier weight, most I find attractive because they have great attitudes about themselves and are comfortable in their own skin.  That having been said, generally speaking, I find the super stick thin women less attractive, not un-attractive, just less attractive for my personal tastes.

I would also agree that fashion has a negative impact on peoples views.  Of course (as I understand it from my wife) women have a harder time with fashion choices, since manufacturers tend to make women's clothing more for show and less for fit than mens. 

p.s.  didn't notice this was a "Young Calorie Counters" thread.  Hopefully no one will be offended by the 36 yr old Greybeards opinion.  Got on this thread by accident when it came up as a sideline when entering my log.  Looked interesting, so I started reading.

I have had friends that were just like dcyounts.... they never got out of that phase... and well karma got them, they were never happy. You have to be atracted... but looks are not everything!

For most guys, fit is atractive. I dont mind a girl that has a some weight to lose... hell I HAVE SOME TO LOSE! The people that are willing to work for what they want to be, how they want to look, that is attractive to me. That means that they have dedication, and well may actually be dedicated to me as well. Weight loss is not easy, and well neither are relationships. I have friends that like a girl with muscle, and I have friends that like a girl that is really small, we are all different, then again so are girls tastes in guys.

I hate to open this can of worms.... but girls always say that they want a guy with muscles.... not completly true either... I am really muscular, but have my fat on me too... girls tend to like "ripped" guys, esp the high school and college girls. It does not hit them till later that there is more to a guy then a six pack

 I am dating a girl that most call "tiny" or "skinny" or what most are describing here as a "stick". I hate to tell you folks... these people have body issues just as much as those that are extremely over weight or those that are too skinny. We all have issues of how we look or feel. So many people look at her and say things like, "wow you are so skinny" or "wow you must not eat", or even " you must be anorexic to be that small"......man and I thought it was just bad being overweight.

In all, I am not attracted to my girlfriend because she is small, I am attracted to her because of her confidence and her attitude. Right now she is not happy with her body, just as I am not happy with mine.... so we are doing something about it, which also attracts me to her, since she is willing to stick by me in hard times just as I will be standing right by here through all of this. Our bodies will fade.... but who we are inside... that will always be here, fat or skinny

Amen nmhudec!

I agree with b82199ab...

Women's clothing is retarded. Nothing fits me, if I could, I would definitely take almost all my clothes to a professional tailor to have them fitted... because literally 5% of my clothes fit well.

About the obesity thing, I don't think all guys really care about weight so much as they care about personality.

I have two friends, one is skinny and he hates it, one is very overweight (clinically obese) and I'm guessing she doesn't really care because she loves sugary sweets.

But they are best friends, maybe even secretly in love, I'm not sure.

Her liking him is not a surprise, because the guy is really popular and really good-looking... but I admit I was a little surprised to see a bit of affection on his side... even though he treats most everyone nice.

The only thing I guess that bothers me about the potential match is the idea of them trying to have kids... while she is sadly so overweight and he is virtually a "stick man".

Original Post by alana_okirwan:

Original Post by rejoiceitssusan:

yeah they want curvy as in, big boobs, tiny waist, big butt.

then shouldn't i be more popular :p? cos at 35/27/37 and with 32D boobs i know i go in and out in the right places buuut the boys i know all prefer stick thin girls. except im quite happy as i am and i figure i just need to meet some real men :D

Yes, you do! Call me! :p

i think its mostly us girls who complain about our "curves".

if we can't learn to appreciate what we have our men will stop trying to get us to notice our good *ass*ets!

I've been with my boyfriend for 11 months and never once has he complained about my size, weight, or even my stretch marks. its guys like that who give us the boosts of self-esteem we need not to throw out every mirror in the house.

do yourself the favor of getting the right guy to worship your curves ;]

its the best thing for ya girl!

-LiTE-BRiTE

i think the best comment here is;

"i have never heard any guy say "whoa, look at those set of ribs"

ahem, try "NICE RACK!" lol or "NICE ASS"

it's funny cause its true, bones are not sexy, their sickly... what a slap in the face, like what were our insane ED minds thinking?

 too thin ages you and makes you look like you have the body of an old lady... like look at Kate Bosworth, she looked awful at her lowest, but when she gained 10-15lbs she look 100x better and so youthful!

its evolution... we are naturally drawn to those who we see as healthy, and fertile, to fulfil our instints to reproduce... and someone with the body of a 99 year old, does not look like something you would want to make healthy babies with (even if you are not wanting kids, most are still drawn to the strong healthy fit looking type)

 

Original Post by carmenxox:

i think the best comment here is;

"i have never heard any guy say "whoa, look at those set of ribs"

ahem, try "NICE RACK!" lol or "NICE ASS"

it's funny cause its true, bones are not sexy, their sickly... what a slap in the face, like what were our insane ED minds thinking?

 too thin ages you and makes you look like you have the body of an old lady... like look at Kate Bosworth, she looked awful at her lowest, but when she gained 10-15lbs she look 100x better and so youthful!

its evolution... we are naturally drawn to those who we see as healthy, and fertile, to fulfil our instints to reproduce... and someone with the body of a 99 year old, does not look like something you would want to make healthy babies with (even if you are not wanting kids, most are still drawn to the strong healthy fit looking type)

 

 I actually read that women who are underweight, or even just  low weight, tend to have underweight babies and even some birth defects.

I was 107 lbs at one time, 5'7", and my monthly cycle went out of wack (two periods in a month for three months!) and I had to see a doctor. It was because my body grew so fast that I became anemic, and so everything else went cuckoo too.

THe good side is if women keep a little bit of weight, not only does it tend towards a healthy weight baby, but reduces strech marks.

I know it sounds cheesy, but everyone is beautiful in their own way.  Seriously.  It doesn't matter what you look like because SOMEONE will always be attracted to you.  If you can't find a date, look somewhere else.

Funny story:  not a lot to do with curves, but everything to do with why guys are weird...

A guy friend of ours was watching the victorias secret somethin' or other, and we girls were like, jeez, giselle is gorgeous! He takes a look at the TV, and goes, ick...that's her?  She's weird looking...we looked at him like he was crazy...giselle? the woman most girls would KILL to look like?  Weird looking?

So I asked him, okay, so who do you think is the most desirable woman on television/movies/whatever...? He began thinking, and I honestly thought he would come up with someone like Jessica Alba, and instead (after a solid three or four minutes worth of thought) he said Pam from the Office, the most normal looking person that I have ever seen in my life...

The best part of this story is that when I relate it to a guy, he usually stares at me as if I'm stupid, shrugs, and says something along the lines of "but Pam from the Office is hot..."

So ladies, I think the moral of the story is that an average guy understands the difference between airbrushed playboy models vs. day to day people...just like we girls don't expect '300'-style Spartan 6-8 packs on everyday men.  So buck up, get fit, and quit yer worrying!

Original Post by foodismysin:

So ladies, I think the moral of the story is that an average guy understands the difference between airbrushed playboy models vs. day to day people...just like we girls don't expect '300'-style Spartan 6-8 packs on everyday men.  So buck up, get fit, and quit yer worrying!

 TOTALLY true. In fact, I think 6-8 packs are kinda icky.. and could possibly hurt me in certain situations :p I prefer my boyfriend's perfect firmness to extreme bulkiness.. but again, to each her own!

agreed.

overly muscular men just do not to it for me... in fact they kinda scare me.... why would I want a guy who weighs 5x more then me in pure muscle and steroids.

I have a few guy friends who are all about the working out and building muscles, but I really wish that they would cut back... they actually seem to come off to me as having low self esteem, and trying to hard.

I wish they would see what I see, that they are great guys without needing to be able to bench press 400lbs... it's sad really. Its like our body insecurties, backwards... and probably even borderlining a type of eating disorder (you know, having to eat LOTS, and lots of protein and creatine and all those other 'supplements') to gain weight/muscle

I've dated all different guys with varying body types, and in the end i've noticed that i prefer the 'average' guy... not scrawny, not chubby, not bulky... just healthy with a little definition/strength to him, to make me feel safe in his arms :) not feel like him hugging a pole, or a bean bag, or being crushed!

i personally agree that guys DO like curves.

when i was 83 pounds, the guy i was dating would like never touch me. even when i started recovering, no one would look twice at me and if they did it was to say "you need to eat something!"

now, i don't know how much i weigh, but i look HEALTHY and i have HEALTHY curves, and my ex (not the one i was dating during my eating disorder) but my first boyfriend, is talking to me again. and today, i was walking home from our community pool and about four or five guys blew their horns at me.

 but for SOME reason, i and most girls still want to be thinner. whyy??

1.) In Naomi Wolf's book THE BEAUTY MYTH, she posits that the media gives women two paradigms: the waif and the porn star. One will make you the envy of women and the muse of the fashion-obsessed, the other will make you popular with men, but strictly on biological grounds. Who wants that? Who wants either? Both are horribly objectifying.

 

From my experience, most  women who aim to be  critically thin are NOT d oing it for male attentio n, so

it is always amusingly tr ite when the 'curves r&nb sp;sexy! u dont have 2b&n bsp;a size zero to be&nbs p;cool'

answers are trotted out a d infinitum.

Trust me, their ideals ar e not the same as yo urs.

Generally the desire to be very thin has little to do with&nbs p;attractiveness to the opposi te sex, and everything to do with control and comparison to other females. If anything, a compliment from a gay fashion designer would be far more thrilling than a wolf whistle from some horny straight male. Again, nothing to do with sex. It's an aesthetic choice.

 

At the end of the da y, you should live up&nbs p;to your own standard of  beauty. Screw what guys& nbsp;think. Screw what anyone& nbsp;else thinks.

:( what happened to your post?

I've never read that book but I've got a favourtie quote from it that was off a site about feminism, you know the passage that begins "what if she doesn't worry about her body and eats enough for all the gowing she has to do" It made me cry the first time I read it.

Whenever I use Opera to post on here, I get these horrific phantom HTML tags accompanying my posts. It's such an eyesore. I apologize.