I hate Lunges!!!
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Oh, man, I hear that! Lunges kill my knees! I sustained a pretty bad injury from lunges this year and am just finally able to do some of the activities in which I was limited.
Squats can be pretty good for your thighs and don't put as much pressure on your knees because both legs are even with one another.
I hate them. i use to hate any-kind of ab work out, and lunges replaced them. in fact i love ab work outs now.
I hate them, i hate them. i hate them , i hate them.
but i still do them (with correct form) dang nab-it.
Screw lunges, all you really need is squats and dead lifts. I despise lunges more than anything but I love lifting weights!!!
Read Hardcore Lunge by Mike Robertson for a detailed examination of lunges and how to do'em right. Keep in mind that lunges are supplemental exercises to the squat and deadlift.
Also, stay away from leg presses, leg extensions, and in fact any machine-based leg move. Leg extensions cause shear forces on the knees, leg presses fail to involve any muscles above the waistline and leads to postural and muscle imbalances, and squatting in the smith machine causes excessive shear forces on both knees and spine. There's no room for machines in a leg training regime designed to keep you injury-free for life.
I'm exaggerating for effect here, but only slightly - machines are useful tools if used right, and in the right context, but they're best used as supplementary exercises to a free weights regime.
No, the leg press machine is not a substitute for squats. If it was, olympic weightlifters would use it for more than a clothes rack.
People who think you can get away with doing leg presses and not squatting are the same ones who blow out their spine when they're trying to help you move your couch - their muscles just aren't trained to work as a unit.
If you want great legs, you must squat.
now squats i like.
Barbell
Dumbbells
Ballet
Sissy
Hack
front
sumo
No, i don't do all of them just thought it was fun to list a few. Since i have bad knees i cant go all the way down (parellel). so i kind of cheat. oh well ; )
i can't hack sissy squats though - if you want to talk dangerous, useless exercise, sissy squats is a good start.
However
lunges are a great stretch and warm up when done correctly. NO EXERCISE SHOULD EVER HURT. if it does, you are Doing It Wrong.
unless of course you do have a chronic sport injury, and the like, and simply do not have the range of motion.
so~ http://www.sportsinjurybulletin.com/archive/l unge-test.html
and ~if you need to look up muscles or stretches http://www.exrx.net/Lists/Directory.html
my PT had me land my front foot 5 inches to the right of the firts, not in-line. balance is better and gives a lower impact stretch to the knee.
lunges are pretty evil. especially because they never get easier! but i still do them because ain't nothin' else but squatting that torches my legs as much as they do! i used to hate squatting too...but i've started to like the burn!
i'm sick. hahah.
Thing is, I think the smith machine really is evil. About the only exercise you can do in it without it hurting your body in some manner is ballistic bench presses - it just isn't conductive to moving your body in a natural pattern.
It's a minor point of disagreement though - I know BodyScience likes the Smith machine more than I do and thinks it has a wider range of uses. And if the choice is between Smith Machine squats and leg presses - well, I dunno; but leg presses you can at least do without excessive shear forces on the spine and knees.
But that's for regular training - for rehab work, it's different. Isolation exercises and machines to strengthen specific muscle groups without (re-)injuring others is very important in that case. But I think doing rehabilitation and physical theraphy exercises without being injured and in need of rehab training isn't a very good idea. I can't help but think that it would lead to muscle imbalances that could easily promote injuries - pretty much the opposite of what you'd want.
Dunno for sure about that though, but in general I think that healthy people shouldn't train like they were in rehab...
Thanks for the info. Someonw once told me that lunges were the only way to get at certain leg muscles... I have felt some improvement but my knees definatly dont like them. Thanks for the advice about the squats I am going to re organize my workout to fit in a squat rotation. Perhaps I can get rid of the lunges all together!
I love warrior poses (yoga), which as best as I can tell, are lunges with additional stretching and balancing, held for a long time (up to a minute). They are graceful, challenging, build mental discipline, and I definitely feel it in the quads. The instructions require the knee to be directly over the foot, to protect from knee strain.
I think I like them because instead of focusing on a number (4, 5, 6), pain, and whether you feel crappy enough to stop yet, you are focusing on balance and form.
Someday when warrier poses don't feel challenging, and I can do side angle poses (deep lunge with torso facing sideways) using arms only for balance and not support, I'll need to supplement with weightlifting-style lunges.
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