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what is the difference(refeeding syndrome aside) between people who automatically jumps cals to necessary amounts to gain and those who "slooooowly" work their way up?

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When a person has been literally starving for a while, it can be dangerous to suddenly feed them 3000+ calories.  This is why in treatment centers they will start the patient [who has been eating abotu nothing] on 1600-2000 and make increases, faster and faster as needed [or as demanded by the metabolism, which typically rebounds in the upper 2000's where the high intake is consistent and exercise is not allowed].

 

For someone who is outpatient or has been eating at over 1600 for a while, physioogically it usually doesn't matter how fast they increase--but most aren't psychologically capable of making the change to just double their calories and get to their best potential [physically and in finding their personality, self, life] faster.

MALIBU-i went from ~1400 to 2000 overnight and nothing happened.

But does a dramatic "jump" in calories rev up the metabolism? I mean if someone increase to 3000 or 4000 calories gradually or all at once are the results the same or different?

Original Post by charliebo:

But does a dramatic "jump" in calories rev up the metabolism? I mean if someone increase to 3000 or 4000 calories gradually or all at once are the results the same or different?

 Consistently getting an overboard level of calories [MORE than what your body needs, even when it's not in starvation mode--usually over 3000]

+ cutting the activity demands [usually a period of complete rest has most dramatic results]

is what gets your metabolism going.

 

Regardless of how long it takes you to get there.

 

Although the longer you get less-than-optimum calories or exercise prior to regaining your metabolism, the better your body gets at saving calories and storing fat.

That and cutting out activity [the other signal that

 Consistently getting an overboard level of calories [MORE than what your body needs, even when it's not in starvation mode--usually over 3000]

+ cutting the activity demands [usually a period of complete rest has most dramatic results]

is what gets your metabolism going.

 

Regardless of how long it takes you to get there.

 

Although the longer you get less-than-optimum calories or exercise prior to regaining your metabolism, the better your body gets at saving calories and storing fat.

That and cutting out activity [the other signal that

 I still don't get it ... so is it healthier to jump start the metab or slowly work it up? Cos what happens when you reach a healthy weight and want to maintain?

It's healthy to eat more and get to a healthy weight.

 

Gradual increases are only for psychological--if it's to scary to just kick ED out and eat a big meal plan.

 

You'll deal with adjusting when you get there. 

Think of it this way, the higher you set the bar now, the easier it will be to adjust:

You'll have lots of "extra items, calories, portions" to cut, PLUS a faster metabolism so you won't need to cut as much

 

>more eating now = future best

is it ok to do it with alot of low cal food rather then a little high cal food or is that the overeater in me?  i like big plates and eating often so i buy low cal stuff so i can have twice as much.  good question malibu.  also does it matter if its late at night as well?  i ask the same questions all the time but i figure diff people read diff posts:)

DANA-it doesnt matter when you eat, the whole eating at night and gaining more or whatever is a myth, eat when you want but ive found that when you eat during te day you have more energy, thats a very good thing!

eating low cal foods rather tahn higher cal, well when you really start to reocover your metabolism you need to be eating at least 2500, thats very hard to do even with higher cal foods so id find it very difficult to eat a lot of celery for instance, rather than higher cal foods.  id suggest starting with a switch to lowfat from nonfat atleast.  nuts, pb, theyre your friend!

cool.  doing well today!

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