I joined CC 5 months ago because I wanted to lose weight. I find that I am now unable to let go of calorie counting because I am afraid to undereat. I have experimented a few times with eating as I would naturally during the day, and then logging in my calorie intake for that day. Each time, I was surprised to find that I ate somewhere between 1200 and 1400 calories, which is not going to be enough.
I would like to stop logging in the food I eat because it is quite time consuming, not a very spontaneous way of life, and also I find that I am focusing my attention too much on calories, as opposed to enjoying food for what it is.
Is there a way in which I can make sure I eat enough without using a calorie counter, knowing that I can't quite rely on what my appetite is telling me?
If not, I'll stick with it for a while longer. My first appointment with a mental health professional, for stress/anxiety, is imminent. My GP seems to think that the issues with food/weight are related.
You can adapt calorie-counting quite easily to 'portion-control' and 'food-type' and then you don't have to do all the laborious logging of calories.
I'll explain.... You can break a meal down roughly into four food types 1. Carbohydrates (C) 2. Proteins (P) 3. Fats (F) 4. Vegetables (V). A 'portion' of carbohydrates is about as big as a tennis ball.... that covers rice, potatoes, noodles, pasta, bread etc. A portion of protein is something about the size of a deck of cards or the palm of your hand..... meat, fish, beans, lentils, tofu, eggs etc. A portions of fats is about a teaspoon .... oil, butter, margarine, mayonnaise, nuts, seeds. Add in plenty of vegetables or salads and you've got the basics for a balanced diet
In addition you need 2 portions of dairy products .. lower fat being generally recommended. You also need 2 or 3 portions of fruit. And that's your day covered. Example
- Breakfast.... Porridge oats (C), made up with milk (dairy), fresh fruit (fruit), some chopped nuts on top (F)
- Lunch... Two slices of wholemeal bread (C), cooked chicken (P), some sliced tomato and salad leaves (V), mayonnaise (F)
- Snack.... A yoghurt (dairy)
- Supper..... Pasta (C), canned tuna (P), lots of green salad and grilled vegetables (V), some olive oil dressing (F)
- Late snack... A banana (fruit), a slice of toast (C) with some butter (F)
Weightwatchers used to run a very similar system to this. Once you knew how many C's, P's and F's etc. you were aiming for each day it was very simple.
Many thanks for this! It's a big relief actually, as I now want to go back to normal and not allow worry about food to dominate my life. It looks relatively simple! I suppose the idea is that extras such as chocolate, cereal bars, ice cream, etc. have to be very occasional and therefore not factored in... I am worried that if I don't have one or two such desserts each day I might end up craving them...
I'll give this a try anyway, and if I find that I am not ready and too anxious, I will wait for therapy to provide the support that I need.
Thanks again! ![]()
The system I described covers your basics ... and should form 80-90% of what you eat. Things like chocolates and ice-cream (and other what I call 'fun foods') are nice to have as occasional treats and can make up the other 10-20%. That mix would still give you a healthy balanced diet.
Ah, I get it! Thanks for the additional post, you're very kind.
Hi there, I'm back!
First I wanted to say that the system you suggested GI-Jane is working very well for me, and has allowed me to free myself of calorie-counting, which was beginning to feel a bit obsessional. So thanks!
In the last four months, I have gained four pounds; not the end of the world, but I would rather not carry on gaining in this way.
I undestand that it takes a surplus of 3500 cals to gain a pound, so I estimate that I am eating roughly 120 cals extra a day, from what I should to maintain my weight. Is this right?
My second and last question is this: is this weight gain likely to carry on ad infinitum, or is it likely to settle at some point?
My BMI four months ago was 19.1 and it is now 19.8. I am 41 and a woman.
Cheers!![]()
As you gain weight you need more energy just to do the same things. You're still a very, very low weight and you're not exactly gaining at a rate of knots. I would expect that, if you carry on the same way, your weight will get into that 'normal BMI' range of 20 - 25 and you'll stay there, no problem.
Thanks for your answer GI-Jane.
I think I know why I started worrying again. I read an article on Google News yesterday, claiming that the World Cancer Research Fund "recommends people exercise for 30 minutes a day, be as lean as possible without becoming underweight, avoid sugary drinks and processed foods and limit consumption of red meats while avoiding processed meats."
I exercise regularly, don't have sugary drinks or eat meat or processed foods, but clearly, I am approaching the BMI 20 mark and therefore will not be "as lean as possible without becoming underweight" for much longer...
It's a pity I read this, actually, because I was finally beginning to feel fairly relaxed about the whole food issue.
Hopefully, I can shake this off and not let anxiety take over once more! ![]()
Bye now!
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