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jealousy? probably..


I'm 5'4'' and weigh 100-102. And EVERYBODYs saying that im "so skinny", "sick looking", "have anorexia" and loads of other comments all the time. It doesnt really hurt because i dont care what other think of me but its like, hey man im just naturally thin! Its weird though, everyone else in my family is just a tad bit fat, sis being overweight (BMI 26). I happend to love veggies and why is that such a problem for people? Its like so childish. i mean fine, your jealous or something - just get over it and you can start living your own life again. It frustrates me so much though, does this happen to you guys too?

Edited Nov 09 2008 18:31 by coach_k
Reason: Moved from Motivation to Health & Support. Locked pending further Moderator review
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There's absolutely nothing wrong with loving veggies, but you *are* underweight (BMI 17.5) so it's not entirely shocking that they'd be worried about you and want to help you gain up to a healthy BMI. 

Original Post by susiecue:

There's absolutely nothing wrong with loving veggies, but you *are* underweight (BMI 17.5) so it's not entirely shocking that they'd be worried about you and want to help you gain up to a healthy BMI. 

 Agreed. Being underweight isn't any better than being overweight--both have health risks. You should talk to your doctor about it. Plus, in your profile you describe yourself as 'eating-disordered'--is it so shocking that people exhibit concern about your very low weight?

 

Believe or not, not everyone in your life is jealous of you. They're probably just concerned. Can you blame them? You're underweight.

i know that im classified as underweight, but i have a small frame so the weight is mostly fat and muscle. and the eating disorder - i had "anorexia" like 2 years ago but now its more of a overeating or binge eating type. thats why im even on cc. anyways, this is not about the post really. :P its just annoying how its okay to call someone skinny but its not to say someones fat.

If you are a recovering anorexic your thinness is not from being "naturally thin", it is from disordered eating and perhaps does not appear healthy to other people. They are just concerned about you. And truthfully, I cannot imagine that given your history that being called thin or skinny is credibly an insult. I understand you don't want to be called anorexic anymore if you are recovering, as I am sure it feels defeating, but perhaps you still don't look 100% well yet and your family/friends still see your disordered eating and are concerned and are not sure how to handle it.

Are you getting help for your disordered eating (anorexia recovery and now binging?

Do you mind I ask why are you on Calorie Count? Are you trying to lose more weight? What do you want to get out of the site? We can help if we know more about you.

The Olsen picture has me a little skeptical too. :P

I really don't think that it's jealousy either.  The majority of people would not want to be underweight.  It is just as unhealthy as being overweight.  And I do think that it's okay to tell someone that they're too thin.  I was underweight until recently, and I'm glad that I got those comments.  I thought the same way that you do now at the time.   I said they must be jealous.  But I was wrong.  Now I'm at a healthy BMI after gaining ten pounds and I don't even look that much bigger to be honest, but I look ten times better and feel ten times better.  Also, I don't agree with you when you say you are naturally thin, if you have a history of an eating disorder.  I think naturally thin is a VERY rare thing and involves problems with your thyroid.  But you simply don't eat enough calories to maintain a healthy weight.  That isn't natural because we really should feed our bodies what they need.  You'll feel much better if you eat all the nutrients you need, believe me I know how you feel because I was there about six months ago.

Hey, calm down every one

It must feel like a slap in the face to be told your not naturally thin, it is a fear you probably don’t want to hear.

It is possible that you have a small frame and are naturally “ slim” but a BMI of less then 18 IS VERY RARELY natural

That is why only 1% of the population are super models, if every one was naturally that underweight then every one would want to get paid lots of money for doing very little!

People who are naturally that tiny can eat over 3000 calories a day and STILL STRUGGLE TO MAINTAIN their weight - some of these people have extreme cases where they have to get medical help JUST so they don’t lose weight, and have to eat extremely high calorie diets so they don’t lose weights

Are you one of these people? About 1 % of the population is.

These people who are naturally your weight despite eating 3000 calories or more DO NOT GET cravings, because they eat what their body needs

Chances are, you feel like binge eating and over eating because your body is not getting enough of what it needs, binge eating and over eating are the MAIN signs that your body could do with more calories, I have BEEN IN THIS POSITION!

I am the same height as you at 5’4, but weigh 110 - 113 with a BMI of 19.

No one tells me I look too thin, no one tells me I look skinny because I do NOT look skinny, I have breasts and a butt and curves.

I do not feel the need to gain weight JUST to have extra weight in case I fall ill, which not every one agrees with, a lot of people think you need to have a BMI of 20

It is a controversial issue, but use common sense, if your BMI is a JUST under or JUST over the healthy range and you look and feel great then you should have nothing to worry about

Your BMI is SIGNIFICANTLY underweight, so if you can gain weight then you should, because not all underweight people are fortunate enough to be able to gain weight and really struggle with it, as in they either have to eat OBSCENE amounts of calories or get medical help; if you can gain a few lbs simply by eating 2500 - 3000 calories then you are lucky that you can gain weight without it being a battle like ti is for some people

Medical experts know more then you do, you do not have to feel bad for you to be putting yourself at risk, you may feel GREAT, but the thing about being underweight as much as you are is that you will not notice the damage you are doing until it is too late

You don’t notice brittle bones and fertility problems for years, so feeling healthy now does not mean it is because you are naturally that slim

If you had true ED ‘s then there WILL be a part of you that loves to be slim and thinks it looks and feels better, and you have to FIGHT the ED voice

You do not have to “ accept your naturally fat” or “ naturally dead set average” even, if you are active each day and do resistance training for your muscles you may very well be naturally slim and fit so don’t be afraid that your natural weight is necessarily big like your families are.

REMEMBER - some people can’t gain weight EVEN IF they have over 3000 calories a day, so if you CAN gain weight by eating normally or even a LITTLE extra, then you SHOULD

People who CAN gain weight without trouble are LUCKY to be able to, because there are people who are naturally as small as you who STRUGGLE with it, so lets hope you are not the 1% of people who are chronically underweight and battle with it.

If you gain to at least a BMI of 19 - 20 then you can assess how you look and feel and keep going if you need to

The jealousy you feel from other people is likely to be your ED because ED ‘s think that thinner is better, so you may not be aware that there is a part of you that thinks being tat thin is desirable and therefore people will also find it desirable; which is not true, not every one worships being thin

okay wow people. when i said "naturally thin" i didnt ever mean i can eat 5000 calories and not gain, thats crazy! i meant that while everybody around me seems to struggle quite a lot with gaining weight all the time while eating like me, i just dont gain nearly as much as them.

and why im here? i find that binge eating is incredibly much worse than starving and feel i have to stop it. i am NOT here to "lose" weight, more like to gain (of course muscles) but obviously, yes to you 1300 calories may seem too little to you - but its not. i never exercise because of no time and 1300 calories is the thing stopping me from binging and hitting 2000+. i know im "just" 15 and should be needing around 2000 calories - but that doesnt work for me. the days that i hit over 2000 calories are awful. i have constant pain, bloating, even jaw pain, guilt etc etc etc

 everybody that has ever had episodes of bingeing for over a year knows that it is a horrible horrible thing. i never feel as bad as when i binge and if eating under 2000 calories is helping me, if so a little only, isnt that great? and ive been at 108-110 and i very much felt no different from when i was at 100.  and i can reassure you, i have a but! its literally almost a jlo but, because thats where i gain. so anyways, stop saying "hit bmi 20+ and youll be happy". happiness does not lay in your weight - i should know.

yeah to be honest sounds like you are in denial!

if you want to get advice here regarding your binging, then maybe you should swallow some pride and concede that you dont know everything. and that you might in fact be binging because you are only consuming 1300. if you up ur cals, you will find that the bloating eases as your stomach gets used to food. you will also find that your jaw doesnt get sore if you eat hi cal lo dense foods.

thirdly, i think you cant determine if you are "naturally thin" at age 15. also with a history of an eating disorder, chances are you are mostly controlling your weight. in fact if you are eating 1300 cals then you are not naturally thin. you are just hungry.

so you perhaps need to review really what you are here for. because when ppl have suggested that you might need more calories you are adamant that you dont. i would also suggest that ANYONE who has had  a restrictive eating disorder "loves veggieS". eating disorder are how many of us fell in love with veggies.

so to be honest it doesnt seem like everyone else is out of line - it sounds like you are. and it sounds like you are in total denial

If your were naturally 100lbs then you would LOSE weight eating 1300 calories

I am not trying to be nasty, I just want to tell you some facts!

The 1% of people I mentioned who are 100lbs and your height need like 4000 calories to MAINTAIN your weight

If you are eating 1300 calories then you are not naturally 100 lbs because people who are naturally your weight LOSE weight if they eat that little - these people need 4000 calories to MAINTAIN, if they are 1300 they would lose a lot of weight….. Do you understand what I am saying? If you are naturally 100 lbs then you would maintain on MORE calories, because people who are naturally 100 lbs and your height have high metabolisms and they LOSE weight unless they eat A LOT.

I am just trying to articulate my point so you understand, I am not trying to sound pushy or nasty, I am telling you what I think is best for you, trying to help not be nasty!

Did you know that I used to be your weight? I felt fine too, but medical experts and ALL doctors have proved that it is unhealthy to be at your weight and height, so you should try to gain weight because it is healthier for your body

It does not matter how you FEEL, that does not indicate weather you are healthy at your weight or not.

The reason you feel bloated and yuck when you eat more then 1300 calories is because you have been starving your body so you are can not handle normal or larger amounts of food, trust me, a lot of people on this site have your same problem!

Recovering anorexics find it REALLY HARD to eat all the calories they need to because they have been depriving their body like you have, and they get over it eventually

Can you see what I am saying?

And people saying you are sick looking and skinny is not a good sign

Please remember you are only 15 and do not know everything - try to be open to change the way you think about some things

Eating 1300 calories is NOT necessary to stop your binge eating.

Please, you need to start eating more so you can push through the pain your body feels when you eat enough - it is NORMAL to find it hard to eat enough after only eating 1300 calories for so long, you have not given your body the chance to regularly eat enough ( which is 200 calories) so of course you are not going to feel good eating this amount until you actually do it for long enough

I have gained weight from 100 lbs and I did not feel different at first, but after a while I it stopped me from ever wanting to binge again because my body recognized that it was finally getting what it needs

You binge when you do not give your body what it needs, that is the physical reason for binge eating, the emotional side is partly due to restricting food and wanting to rebel against this miserable behavior that is no fun!

I was in your position! I was CONVINCED that I felt fine at 100 lbs and so there was no reason to gain weight if I felt fine! But I did, and it stopped my serious binge eating problem and I look much healthier

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if you truly are that weight despite eating plenty of healthy nutritious calories daily (check out your daily calorie needs on one of the online calculators to be sure), then don't worry about it. although it truly wouldn't hurt you to put on just a couple of pounds, if that's just the way your body works then you can't help that. just be healthy. they might be jealous, their perceptions of what constitutes a 'normal' weight might be off...

when i was seriously restricting, my weight was only slightly above where yours is, and my family and friends made comments to me just like that. the only difference is, i didn't always look like that and it clearly was not just the natural state of my body. so i would just advise you to be careful and really just make sure you're getting all the nutrients you need. to be fair, i have to admit- when i was around your weight (and i am 5'4" also) i thought i felt fine and i was hugely in denial about my weight and health. when i look at pictures from that time, i honestly look skeletal. and i had a myriad of health problems that i tricked myself into *accepting* as normal. they weren't. just make sure you're really being honest with yourself...

okay i dont think your hearing me. im not restricting at 1300 calories, i eat what i need and some what i want and i feel full. when i hit over 2000 i feel physically bad. and im not bingeing because im hungry etc its really because i have clinical depression and some anxiety problems. and i had an ed two years ago, its past who i am.

Even if you feel full at 1300, that is STILL A RESTRICTED CALORIE DIET. It doesn't matter if you feel full or don't FEEL like you're restricting--if you're eating less than you need to maintain, that's a restricted calorie diet.

You need to eat more healthy but high-calorie, low-volume food, like nuts, peanut butter, etc. Add some olive oil to your veggies or salad. You can easily reach 2000 calories without feeling overstuffed if you eat the right foods.

I used to feel full at 500 calories. Honest to God so full I was about to vomit.

Because I had a shrunken stomach, distorted perception and um... a full blown eating disorder.

I like minerva's suggestion - if you can't do calorific quantity, do calorific quality.With olive oil, peanut butter, seeds etc.. there's no excuse not to be able to get your cals up without increasing food volume.

To be honest, as much as I hate the gaining process at the moment, I don't want to only be able to eat 1300 for the rest of my life. It's going to make birthday parties, dinners out, whatever.. really dull. I'd rather boost my metabolism now (or attempt to anyway!) and be able to 'relax' more when I'm better.

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