Do you like long hair (on women)? At what point does it go from looking good to looking creepy? At what age does it become weird to have really long hair?
Original Post by crazydiamondchrysalis:
Hey I'm not saying I don't play along... I can dress up too! I'm just saying that I don't feel the need to dress up to be accepted amongst the people I truly want to spend time with. Work is a necessary evil.
I'm not sure how "long hair" = sweats, greasiness, stained shirts. Long hair isn't messy unless you let it get messy. Did I miss something here? Why are there only 2 options - stinky greasy slobby mess or pristine primped pumped preened peacock? (note the awesome alliteration I did there)
My hair has never held me back. I think that is REALLY what I am saying. ;)
aw lets be honest, I really have no idea what I'm saying.
I think it started with someone saying their hair formed "natural dreadlocks", someone called them a dirty hippie, and they didn't like that.
Original Post by carmenxox:
and for the record long hair does not equal "trashy hippie hair"
unkempt, unclean, fried, damaged, unmanagable and split end sgraggly hair= trashy hippie hair
there's a fine line between sexy touselled hair, and just-rolled out of bed hair
as long as you put some effort into your locks you can have long hair.. just dont let it get out of control.. theres' no age when hair becomes too long or 'slutty', but having a style that flatters your face shape looks much more appealing then a style that just lies there heavy and harsh like a blanket over your head
more Victoria's Secret.. less creepy little girl from The Ring
what about that chick from dances with wolves??? I got kicked out of the theater for yelling "BRUSH YOUR HAIR!" everytime she came on screen.
(true story)
Original Post by hotfuss:
Original Post by crazydiamondchrysalis:
Hey I'm not saying I don't play along... I can dress up too! I'm just saying that I don't feel the need to dress up to be accepted amongst the people I truly want to spend time with. Work is a necessary evil.
I'm not sure how "long hair" = sweats, greasiness, stained shirts. Long hair isn't messy unless you let it get messy. Did I miss something here? Why are there only 2 options - stinky greasy slobby mess or pristine primped pumped preened peacock? (note the awesome alliteration I did there)
My hair has never held me back. I think that is REALLY what I am saying. ;)
aw lets be honest, I really have no idea what I'm saying.
I think it started with someone saying their hair formed "natural dreadlocks", someone called them a dirty hippie, and they didn't like that.
so I just spent all that time and effort for a misunderstanding on the page that I skipped? BWAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAAAA!!!
How did I miss that? I didn't think I skipped a page?
Original Post by hotfuss:
Original Post by crazydiamondchrysalis:
Hey I'm not saying I don't play along... I can dress up too! I'm just saying that I don't feel the need to dress up to be accepted amongst the people I truly want to spend time with. Work is a necessary evil.
I'm not sure how "long hair" = sweats, greasiness, stained shirts. Long hair isn't messy unless you let it get messy. Did I miss something here? Why are there only 2 options - stinky greasy slobby mess or pristine primped pumped preened peacock? (note the awesome alliteration I did there)
My hair has never held me back. I think that is REALLY what I am saying. ;)
aw lets be honest, I really have no idea what I'm saying.
I think it started with someone saying their hair formed "natural dreadlocks", someone called them a dirty hippie, and they didn't like that.
no.. I said that "dirty hippie hair" is unnattractive on everyone
then some girl who thinks that her hair looks like dirty hippie hair got upset because I said something that was never intentionally aimed towards her... and for the record her hair isn't as bad as she described it
natural curls are fine, you can't help the way your hair grows.. but you can wash it regularly and keep it tidy
just because your hair is naturally curly, does not give you an excuse to avoid proper hygiene
thats like me saying 'my teeth are naturally yellow so i dont brush them'
Original Post by carmenxox:
you need to understand that first impressions are unavoidable, and sometimes very accurate... the way you look tells a lot about who you are (whether you 'care' or not)
you wouldn't go to an important job interview in sweats, greasy hair, and a stained shirt would you? I sure hope not... and if you have, I bet you never got a call back.
it's okay to be comfy and lazy every once in a while... hell I do it all the time, BUT I do it at home, or at the grocery store. You know somewhere that it doesn't matter so much what you look like... But I would never ever go to work dressed like a slob, or go over to someone's house looking like I just rolled in a mud pile. Not only does that show laziness and a lack of self respect, but it shows a lack of respect for the work place or for another person.
If my boyfriend came over looking like crap on a daily basis, I would get the impression that he doesn't care enough about me to try and look good, or maybe I'm not important enough, that my opinion is irrelavant.
if the real you is very laid back, then I would suggest that you don't get a 'fancy' job that requires a strict dress code if you can't keep up with appearances
don't think that only personality matters.. self presentation is the first thing seen and first thing judged, you're personality will never be noticed if someone has no desire to talk to you based on how you present yourself
harsh but true
please people, practise proper hygiene.. it only takes minutes out of your day and will make all the difference
ahh.. superficiality at its finest. what i love about humans most.
Original Post by carmenxox:
Original Post by hotfuss:
Original Post by crazydiamondchrysalis:
Hey I'm not saying I don't play along... I can dress up too! I'm just saying that I don't feel the need to dress up to be accepted amongst the people I truly want to spend time with. Work is a necessary evil.
I'm not sure how "long hair" = sweats, greasiness, stained shirts. Long hair isn't messy unless you let it get messy. Did I miss something here? Why are there only 2 options - stinky greasy slobby mess or pristine primped pumped preened peacock? (note the awesome alliteration I did there)
My hair has never held me back. I think that is REALLY what I am saying. ;)
aw lets be honest, I really have no idea what I'm saying.
I think it started with someone saying their hair formed "natural dreadlocks", someone called them a dirty hippie, and they didn't like that.
no.. I said that "dirty hippie hair" is unnattractive on everyone
then some girl who thinks that her hair looks like dirty hippie hair got upset because I said something that was never intentionally aimed towards her... and for the record her hair isn't as bad as she described it
natural curls are fine, you can't help the way your hair grows.. but you can wash it regularly and keep it tidy
just because your hair is naturally curly, does not give you an excuse to avoid proper hygiene
thats like me saying 'my teeth are naturally yellow so i dont brush them'
and i said i basically and fundamentally disagree with everything you said. i think lots of people can pull off the hippie dreaded hair and look great.
Yes but the person dressing "odd" that might be their style and to them they are dressed nicely. But the fasion world would say that he/she is dressed horribly.
Like I said, work and dress code are completely different. I'm talking about averge joe/susan on the train, on their day off.
And I don't think many people wander the streets with stained clothes unless they're extremely poor or homeless (and usually look it) therefore it isn't their fault.
For example, Carmen, you said you dress like a 'bum' (lack of a better word) when at home or going to the grocery store. How would you feel if someone judged you soley on your sloppy house clothes in the store? Assuming someone lacks respect cause they don't wanna doll up to go out is a bit unfair [for people to judge].
And being able to dress "down" around friends or boyfriends/husband/wives/girlfriends is one of the perks of having them. They should love you for you, not how your hair or clothing is styled. That's a bit silly.
Most people don't go to work dressed like a slob. Because dress code =/= their style. It's a rule they must follow in order to continue working at their job.
Maybe I'm weird for thinking that someone shouldn't have to dress up just to impress their friends/significant other on a daily basis. Me and my husband love sitting around in sweat pants, we're both comfortable and he's still as attractive to me as when he's dressed up to go out.
It feels shallow, I think.
Like when someone here said someone could say "nice shoes" and behind their back make fun of it (this person is rude and disgusting to begin with but that's a different story). Why did that person care about the shoes in the first place? She's/He's not wearing them. And why make a comment and then talk badly after? So immature.
And I hate making long posts. >.<
Original Post by musicalfishmich:
Original Post by carmenxox:
you need to understand that first impressions are unavoidable, and sometimes very accurate... the way you look tells a lot about who you are (whether you 'care' or not)
you wouldn't go to an important job interview in sweats, greasy hair, and a stained shirt would you? I sure hope not... and if you have, I bet you never got a call back.
it's okay to be comfy and lazy every once in a while... hell I do it all the time, BUT I do it at home, or at the grocery store. You know somewhere that it doesn't matter so much what you look like... But I would never ever go to work dressed like a slob, or go over to someone's house looking like I just rolled in a mud pile. Not only does that show laziness and a lack of self respect, but it shows a lack of respect for the work place or for another person.
If my boyfriend came over looking like crap on a daily basis, I would get the impression that he doesn't care enough about me to try and look good, or maybe I'm not important enough, that my opinion is irrelavant.
if the real you is very laid back, then I would suggest that you don't get a 'fancy' job that requires a strict dress code if you can't keep up with appearances
don't think that only personality matters.. self presentation is the first thing seen and first thing judged, you're personality will never be noticed if someone has no desire to talk to you based on how you present yourself
harsh but true
please people, practise proper hygiene.. it only takes minutes out of your day and will make all the difference
ahh.. superficiality at its finest. what i love about humans most.
yes, because regularly washing yourself is REALLY superficial
I'm sorry I don't like the smell of BO and the feeling of greasy knotted hair
there is nothing wrong with taking care of yourself
go tell your cat or dog next time he's licking himself clean to stop being so stuck up and superficial
Original Post by cptbunny:
Like when someone here said someone could say "nice shoes" and behind their back make fun of it (this person is rude and disgusting to begin with but that's a different story). Why did that person care about the shoes in the first place? She's/He's not wearing them. And why make a comment and then talk badly after? So immature.
teehehe
Ones outfit or hair isn't always about hygiene. o.O Some people like the messy look, it doesn't mean they don't shower or wash their hair. Some people's hair (mine for example!) get greasy by the end of the day, I'd hate for someone to think I had poor hygiene cause my hair sucks.
Original Post by carmenxox:
Original Post by musicalfishmich:
Original Post by carmenxox:
you need to understand that first impressions are unavoidable, and sometimes very accurate... the way you look tells a lot about who you are (whether you 'care' or not)
you wouldn't go to an important job interview in sweats, greasy hair, and a stained shirt would you? I sure hope not... and if you have, I bet you never got a call back.
it's okay to be comfy and lazy every once in a while... hell I do it all the time, BUT I do it at home, or at the grocery store. You know somewhere that it doesn't matter so much what you look like... But I would never ever go to work dressed like a slob, or go over to someone's house looking like I just rolled in a mud pile. Not only does that show laziness and a lack of self respect, but it shows a lack of respect for the work place or for another person.
If my boyfriend came over looking like crap on a daily basis, I would get the impression that he doesn't care enough about me to try and look good, or maybe I'm not important enough, that my opinion is irrelavant.
if the real you is very laid back, then I would suggest that you don't get a 'fancy' job that requires a strict dress code if you can't keep up with appearances
don't think that only personality matters.. self presentation is the first thing seen and first thing judged, you're personality will never be noticed if someone has no desire to talk to you based on how you present yourself
harsh but true
please people, practise proper hygiene.. it only takes minutes out of your day and will make all the difference
ahh.. superficiality at its finest. what i love about humans most.
yes, because regularly washing yourself is REALLY superficial
I'm sorry I don't like the smell of BO and the feeling of greasy knotted hair
there is nothing wrong with taking care of yourself
go tell your cat or dog next time he's licking himself clean to stop being so stuck up and superficial
no, but judging someone based on looks vs. personality would indeed be the definition on superficial.
sorry - um - how's the dreadlock look "dirty, greasy" and "unhygienic"? How's that automatically BO?
Not that I haven't ever seen a "dirty smelly hippy with dreadlocks". But that person certainly did not represent all dreadlocked or hippy ppl i have met?
I'm just still confused I guess.
Also confused on the dressing up for SO. If we are going out, or.. having an interesting night in, yeah, we will dress up. Its nice sometimes. But I prefer my long hippie skirt (no grease or stains) and a tank top to my dress up clothes. And yes, I've worn that out before.
Also, MFM, she's judging on her "version" of hygiene and it seems some level of pre-judging on dreadlocks, not looks.
And carmen, I am wondering why you think dreadlocks = dirty smelly hippie?
If you didn't talk to me because my hair had dreadlocks and you assumed I didn't clean properly, then I think that is all the better.
and now I'll be even more confused, because I'm leaving!!!
:)
ugh, oh my god you people are insane
long hair does not = dirty hippie
the OP asked when long hair gets too long or looks bad... and I said that long hair looks fine as long as you keep it clean and styled and don't let it get out of control, frizzy and damaged
the OP was looking for the opinions of others, so now why is everyone freaking out for me voicing my opinion? I was doing what was asked.. if you are offended, then that is your own problem
my opinion doesn't matter to you anyways right? so why do you keep coming back here trying to defend yourself.
seems odd that someone who "doesn't care" what other people think, has been anxiously lurking around this thread all day... interesting ![]()
Original Post by musicalfishmich:
Original Post by carmenxox:
Original Post by musicalfishmich:
Original Post by carmenxox:
you need to understand that first impressions are unavoidable, and sometimes very accurate... the way you look tells a lot about who you are (whether you 'care' or not)
you wouldn't go to an important job interview in sweats, greasy hair, and a stained shirt would you? I sure hope not... and if you have, I bet you never got a call back.
it's okay to be comfy and lazy every once in a while... hell I do it all the time, BUT I do it at home, or at the grocery store. You know somewhere that it doesn't matter so much what you look like... But I would never ever go to work dressed like a slob, or go over to someone's house looking like I just rolled in a mud pile. Not only does that show laziness and a lack of self respect, but it shows a lack of respect for the work place or for another person.
If my boyfriend came over looking like crap on a daily basis, I would get the impression that he doesn't care enough about me to try and look good, or maybe I'm not important enough, that my opinion is irrelavant.
if the real you is very laid back, then I would suggest that you don't get a 'fancy' job that requires a strict dress code if you can't keep up with appearances
don't think that only personality matters.. self presentation is the first thing seen and first thing judged, you're personality will never be noticed if someone has no desire to talk to you based on how you present yourself
harsh but true
please people, practise proper hygiene.. it only takes minutes out of your day and will make all the difference
ahh.. superficiality at its finest. what i love about humans most.
yes, because regularly washing yourself is REALLY superficial
I'm sorry I don't like the smell of BO and the feeling of greasy knotted hair
there is nothing wrong with taking care of yourself
go tell your cat or dog next time he's licking himself clean to stop being so stuck up and superficial
no, but judging someone based on looks vs. personality would indeed be the definition on superficial.
yes, but your personality will never be judged if people don't want to get to know you because you don't look pleasant or approachable
I'm not saying you do.. but in general, others tend to avoid people with a "negative aura"
the happy cheerful smiley person in a group will always get more attention then the grumpy scowling one
the person in flattering fitted clothes will get more looks then the person in baggy oversized sweats
regardless if you care or not, this is how nature works.. this is how it's been for millions of years. Creatures are attracted to others that look well groomed, healthy and strong
disagreeing with me, is disagreeing with mother nature and years of scientific research
Original Post by carmenxox:
Original Post by musicalfishmich:
Original Post by carmenxox:
Original Post by musicalfishmich:
Original Post by carmenxox:
you need to understand that first impressions are unavoidable, and sometimes very accurate... the way you look tells a lot about who you are (whether you 'care' or not)
you wouldn't go to an important job interview in sweats, greasy hair, and a stained shirt would you? I sure hope not... and if you have, I bet you never got a call back.
it's okay to be comfy and lazy every once in a while... hell I do it all the time, BUT I do it at home, or at the grocery store. You know somewhere that it doesn't matter so much what you look like... But I would never ever go to work dressed like a slob, or go over to someone's house looking like I just rolled in a mud pile. Not only does that show laziness and a lack of self respect, but it shows a lack of respect for the work place or for another person.
If my boyfriend came over looking like crap on a daily basis, I would get the impression that he doesn't care enough about me to try and look good, or maybe I'm not important enough, that my opinion is irrelavant.
if the real you is very laid back, then I would suggest that you don't get a 'fancy' job that requires a strict dress code if you can't keep up with appearances
don't think that only personality matters.. self presentation is the first thing seen and first thing judged, you're personality will never be noticed if someone has no desire to talk to you based on how you present yourself
harsh but true
please people, practise proper hygiene.. it only takes minutes out of your day and will make all the difference
ahh.. superficiality at its finest. what i love about humans most.
yes, because regularly washing yourself is REALLY superficial
I'm sorry I don't like the smell of BO and the feeling of greasy knotted hair
there is nothing wrong with taking care of yourself
go tell your cat or dog next time he's licking himself clean to stop being so stuck up and superficial
no, but judging someone based on looks vs. personality would indeed be the definition on superficial.
yes, but your personality will never be judged if people don't want to get to know you because you don't look pleasant or approachable
I'm not saying you do.. but in general, others tend to avoid people with a "negative aura"
the happy cheerful smiley person in a group will always get more attention then the grumpy scowling one
the person in flattering fitted clothes will get more looks then the person in baggy oversized sweats
regardless if you care or not, this is how nature works.. this is how it's been for millions of years. Creatures are attracted to others that look well groomed, healthy and strong
disagreeing with me, is disagreeing with mother nature and years of scientific research
hahaha and now you're an expert on anthropology? please carmen.
years of scientific research? disagreeing with mother nature? where do you come up with this BS?
you're so ignorant..
it's called "survival of the fittest" or "natural selection" if you actually believe in evolution... but I bet you still believe you were created magically by "god"
male peacocks with the brightest, fullest feathers get the hens
male lions who are the strongest and healthiest fight for the title as leader of the pride
etc..
looking good, and looking healthy is vital in the animal world... and yes I am projecting this onto humans, BECAUSE IT'S TRUE
look at elections, presidents, celebrities, companies... all these things exist because of how the rest of society feels about them. If "no one should care" who the president was, how do you think that would turn out? If "no one cared" about movies, we would never have actors and actresses? If no one cared about the way a car looks and handles, then no one would drive?
and yes even YOU care to some extent about how you look, because you are on this site... you want advice on how to reach your goals, how to look good in clothes, how to lose/gain/maintain weight, how to build muscle, run faster, etc..
even if you say that you're only doing this for yourself, that's cool. that's how it should be.. no one should be being healthy or losing weight for anyone besides them.
but I bet you feel awesome when someone compliments you on your marathon time, or how good you look... I'm sure you don't turn to them and say "well I don't care what you think!!"
enough with the "hahaha BS" ignorant remarks, and open your eyes... you obviously even care to some extent about what I think or else you wouldn't keep coming back here trying to defend yourself
I don't care if you shower or not, I don't care if you only wash yourself twice a year for all that matters... but the ORIGINAL POSTER was asking for the opionions of others. Just because mine didn't tickle your fancy does not make it wrong, nor does it make yours right. Everyone is going to have their own opinions and behaviors, except it.
yes, I give a damn about how I look most of the time, and I like to think that others do to... I don't find laziness or dirtiness desirable and I will avoid people who look or smell bad because personal respect is important to me... respect yourself and I will respect you.
If you don't wash on a regular basis, then yeah I guess me and you wouldn't get along... bummer![]()
but I think this will be my last post, (and a long one at that) this thread is getting ridiculous. I bet the OP is shaking her head in disbelief still confused about how long her hair should be ahah
creationism? nah.. that's pretty much opposite to my beliefs. but bringing religion into this cluster would make it even more off topic ha..
anywho - i get what you're saying, to a point.
but, basically, i just think you base your opinions a little too much on face value, looks, and on what others think.
of course i care, to an extent, what others think of me. of course that has something to do with why i'm on this site. of course i have many other issues that have led me to this point as well.
i'm not knocking you for sharing your opinion re: the OP's question - i simply have my own right to state my opinion on how i your answer rubbed me the wrong way.
as far as accepting everyone's opinions and behaviors, that just doesn't happen much of the time. you yourself don't seem to accept the behavior of the "dirty hippies" of the world. i think everyone is entitled to their opinions, etc.; but to the same extent everyone is also entitled to disagreeing/agreeing with said opinions, yes?
as far as the OP and the length of her hair are concerned, throughout the 5 pages of this mottled thread, i'm sure she's sifted through it and found some helpful answers - or at least one can hope lol..
anyway - c'est la vie!
just one last thing.
judging someone based on their looks is something that you cannot escape, so face reality
you can "not care" what others think all you want, but that is never going to stop them from judging you
why do you think that we have all these tv shows, magazines, celebrites, diets, products, companies, presidents..etc. BECAUSE SOMEBODY OUT THERE DOES CARE
and judging from how many fashion magazines, or celebrity websites, or hype about Obama or Micheal Jackson, it is pretty safe to say that quite a lot of people DO CARE
me not liking Paris Hilton is not going to make her stop being so damn ridiculous... just like you not liking my opinion is not going to stop me from having it
you'll never be able to please everybody
everyone is entitled to their own opinion. this is mine. that is yours.
now lets drop it and move on
wth? your post just reiterated what i've been saying.
you seem to hang with bated breath on what everyone thinks of you.
i, on the other hand, try hard not too let others opinions affect me, and to live more by the mantra of "those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind".
oh, and p.s., as far as presidents go, abe lincoln was historically considered one of the greatest presidents, and also one of the ugliest presidents. so, um, yea...
as far as celebrity gossip and rag mags - i like to spend my time reading novels, and the magazines i choose to read tend to be more of the runner's world and yoga mag variety vs. OK and US - another difference between you and i yes?
and although i am a staunch Obama supporter, whether he were as good looking as he is or whether as funny looking as abe lincoln or the shrub, i would still be a supporter based on his platform, beliefs, and badass wife.
and paris hilton? um. that girl isn't even on my radar so no idea what she has to do with anything.
i don't intend on pleasing everyone. obviously.
you can continue to watch your "what not to wear" programs and reading your gossip rags and keeping up with the world of the hiltons and other socialites while rotting your mind with most of the rest of this poor society, and i'll stay in my own little idealistic bubble, thanks ![]()
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