How long for the new prez's honeymoon?

Any guesses on when the new prez's followers will float back down to earth?

you betcha!

Ig: Who is harboring the expectation that President Obama is going to fix everything in short order? I have seen no post from any Obama supporter, nor read any column by an Obama supporter that reflects that opinion. Everyone I know that voted for Obama is certain these problems will take years to fix. A link was provided earlier to that effect - but I'm too lazy to go back and re-post it. ;)

There is a very big difference, IMHO, between rejoicing in the fact that we have accomplished something extraordinary and pinning all our collective hopes on one man.

In fact the only people throughout this entire process who have said anyone thinks President Obama is the second coming of Christ are conservatives.

I do agree that Bob Dole would have been a good president. He took one for the team, that year, didn't he?

Original Post by kathygator:

In fact the only people throughout this entire process who have said anyonethinks President Obama is the second coming of Christ are conservatives.

 It's generally excepted that Pres. Obama's mother was not a virgin at the time of his birth.

excepted or accepted?

sorry.  had to, because it's you.

Original Post by akgal:

I watched his speech carefully last night, and my god, this guy really is developing into presidential material.  I only hope it continues and the country positively benefits from it. 

 I didn't think his speech was any better than the one he gave 4 years ago at the DNC.  I also disagree that being able to give a good speech is evidence that someone is 'presidential material'.

Original Post by pgeorgian:

excepted or accepted?

sorry.  had to, because it's you.

 I thought you went to work.

I meant to say/type accepted.

(It could have been a Freudian thing though.)

Original Post by trhawley:

Original Post by pgeorgian:

excepted or accepted?

sorry.  had to, because it's you.

 I thought you went to work.

I meant to say/type accepted.

(It could have been a Freudian thing though.)

"going to work" happens in stages.

i am now at my desk, with a big, fat book in front of me, and several chapters flagged and ready for reading.  i am at stage 2 of the "going to work" process.

now i'm going to get a cup of tea.  this is stage 3.

and then i will have to take a break to ponder the freudian implications of obama's mother being excepted to be a virgin.

and go pee.

I think there is a *honeymoon*...which is cool....but I just wonder how long Obama will be in office before things go wrong, and for how many years people will blame the party before him for the nations problems. The whole four years?

He isn't a king, he has other forces to answer to in our government, and things will not of course, change overnight. He is a young, handsome president with a beautiful family. I just feel sorry for his daughters....going into "teenagedom" with everyone looking at everything you do or say. They deserve three puppies.

Like the Billy Joel song "We didn't start the fire"....many of the conflicts and problems we have now did not just begin in the last 8 years....we all just hope that there is more skilled handling and a better direction now. This place is a mess. The president isn't going to alone "save" us. This isn't the second coming...we ALL have to participate in this if things are going to get better. We all have to grow up and realize that. We are all a part of the big picture. Expecting one human being to swoop down and fix things single-handed is silly. Get your work-gloves on EVERYONE. We all have a part to play...and work to do to make things better.

Not everyone likes Mr. O. So what? If he is worth his metal, he will disprove thier doubts won't he? Why "verbally" attack everyone who isn't convinced just yet? This is America. We DO have the right to free thought either way. Let's use logic instead of emotion.

Original Post by akgal:

ignayshus, you said something(if I remember right) before the election when the discussion was about obama's experience or lack thereof, about it could go basically 2 different directions either he will grow into the presidency or he will flounder.  I watched his speech carefully last night, and my god, this guy really is developing into presidential material.  I only hope it continues and the country positively benefits from it. 

Basically what I had said was that he was an unknown quantity.

That with a close or existing democrat supermajority in the house and senate, Obama could go one of two ways: Be centrist and check the excesses of the Democrat party as the power pendulum swung full left OR he'd be a rubber stamp in the white house leaving the Democrat party full reign with no checks to balance them.

That was why I voted McCain. I knew that if nothing else he'd be a bottle-neck that would make the Democrats have to at least consider more centrist ideas.

Thankfully Obama has shown that so far he's leaning center/center-right (boggled), and if he keeps it up, he'll likely drag the Democrat party (kicking and screaming) to more victories over the next decade.

Original Post by pgeorgian:

Original Post by trhawley:

Original Post by pgeorgian:

excepted or accepted?

sorry.  had to, because it's you.

 I thought you went to work.

I meant to say/type accepted.

(It could have been a Freudian thing though.)

"going to work" happens in stages.

i am now at my desk, with a big, fat book in front of me, and several chapters flagged and ready for reading.  i am at stage 2 of the "going to work" process.

now i'm going to get a cup of tea.  this is stage 3.

and then i will have to take a break to ponder the freudian implications of obama's mother being excepted to be a virgin.

and go pee.

 I was thinking along the lines of my subconscious inability to accept the possibility of an immaculate conception.

Now you're just sucking up, Mac. :D

Original Post by trhawley:

 It's generally excepted that Pres. Obama's mother was not a virgin at the time of his birth.

Off topic, but most beliefs on the the manner in which Jesus is supposed to re-appear don't necessitate a virgin birth.

But KG is correct - the only people I've seen/read referring to Obama as The Messiah are comedians and right wing conservatives.

Original Post by kathygator:

Ig: Who is harboring the expectation that President Obama is going to fix everything in short order? I have seen no post from any Obama supporter, nor read any column by an Obama supporter that reflects that opinion. Everyone I know that voted for Obama is certain these problems will take years to fix. A link was provided earlier to that effect - but I'm too lazy to go back and re-post it. ;)

There is a very big difference, IMHO, between rejoicing in the fact that we have accomplished something extraodinary and pinning all our collective hopes on one man.

In fact the only people throughout this entire process who have said anyone thinks President Obama is the second coming of Christ are conservatives.

I do agree that Bob Dole would have been a good president. He took one for the team, that year, didn't he?

kg, please don't frame my argument in this light (see bold) I'm hardly naive or an idealogue.

I'm not talking about the rejoicing over the last few days. I'm talking about when people are interviewed on the street about what they think Obama will/should do. They include the expectation of expediency.

Why do you think Obama and his staff always flat out state that changes will be slow to form? Years not months.

They are trying to manage the existing expectations. You may have your head screwed on straight kg, but most people do not.

Every time I look at something and say nobody would "do/say/believe x" I have to remind myself that I wouldn't, but that I'm the exception to the rule, as are you and many people with whom I get into it on this site. We all have dumb moments or say stupid things, but that's not our modus operandi.

You're right. I have been bugged by the repeated references to "The One" and "The Messiah" over the last few weeks and months. Pinging your post to make the point was incorrect. Sorry dude. :)

Original Post by monarch777:

Not everyone likes Mr. O. So what? If he is worth his metal, he will disprove thier doubts won't he? 

Not all of them, no.  I've come across some people who have no intention of giving him credit for anything - their comments were downright nasty.   Of course, these are the same people who think he's ineligible to be CiC in the first place, but that's a different conversation.

And yes, I realize there were, and are, plenty of liberals/democrats who refuse to acknowledge anything of merit by W.  (It's childish behavior no matter who does it.)

Original Post by trhawley:

How many US Presidents before Obama have been lefties?  (By that I mean left handed.)

It's okay kg, I know how you feel. I still cringe when I see GeeDUBYA stole the election!!! Or when people rant against the electoral college.

It strikes me as terribly misinformed not to mention misguided.

Well, I voted for the other guy....I really didnt like either one and wanted a re-do, but what can you do?  I actually liked Sarah Palin more than the presidental canidates...sad really....

The old guy has A LOT of experience but he's kind of a jerk when it came to the debates with pointed fingers and I did NOT like that and Obama just doesn't have a lot of experience but he sure can bulls### and well, he's a democrate and usually democrats tend to put my husbands job in high risk, like Clinton, my husband almost lost his job....he works on military bases and Obama is already shutting down Guantanamo Bay ( sorry for misspelling )..I don't dislike Obama and I really wish him the best of luck on his presidency but it's going to take more than 4 years for him to fix this country, more than 8 if re-elected....Bush was still cleaning up Clinton's mess....not saying Bush was a perfect president, but I do recall our country coming together when he announced we weren't going to stand for war on our territory and we were PROUD to take a stand....but that fades away when we forget why we are at war....yes, it's a war that I wish would end...but my ramblings I am leading off on a whole other subject....

I wish Obama the best of luck and I hope he keeps his promises but, I'm not holding my breath... I 'm tired of hearing about his race...I don't care what color you are as long as you do the job we appointed you to and do all the things you promised...God Bless~

Bush was still cleaning up Clinton's mess....

::giggles::

to the person who asked how long will the current administration be blaming the one that came before... looks like the answer is forever!

And Clinton was cleaning up Bushs' mess, as was Bush straightening things up after Reagen...Reagan was cleaning up Carter's mess and Carter was cleaning up Ford's mess.....all the way to the original GW....George Washington.  And before then, trying to break free from England....