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Love handles... I want them gone!!!!
I hate my love handles! I have a tiny frame, and what I consider, huge love handles. Does anyone know a good work out that will help make them disappear while working my butt and lower back!?!?!
thanks,
mobailey
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Unfortunately, love handles are simply pockets of fat, and we do not chose where the fat gets lost from - the body decides, we don't.
Overall fat loss comes from diet (eating less than you burn). To help out, you can do things like lift heavy (relative to you) weights - things like squats, deadlifts, lunges will all help. High intensity interval training helps too.
Hi
Well, fat around the midsection is a great indication of too many carbs. What you may want to try to empty these cells is to focus on your digestive system. A great principle in caring for your ds is found in how you combine your foods. If you do not mix fats/proteins w/carbs, this makes for easier digestion PLUS the fat will not be stored with the carbs! If you do what I am going to suggest, I can guarantee those love handles and back/ass fat WILL melt off.
OK. Start your day w/a fat meal ~ no carbs [not any!]. Then when you eat the rest of the day, just make sure you do not mix the fats/proteins w/carbs. OH and be sure to stay away from boxed, processed foods that are junk! NO white breads, or sugar! You cannot eat this way half-ass ~ you must do it fully.
For more great info go the suzannesomers.com . You will find all you need to know there. BTW ~ I lost 70 lbs in 2.5 months eating this way. I was eating foods that the "diet industry" would say to avoid. I did such the opposite and avoided foods they put out, such as: lowfat/no fat. These foods are very bad for us and when you go "no fat", expect to be fat. ALSO. Eating to have a healthy digestive system is a lifestyle choice. REMEMBER, you ds is your second brain! Treat it well and good luck to ya!![]()
Original Post by territalk:
Hi
Well, fat around the midsection is a great indication of too many carbs. What you may want to try to empty these cells is to focus on your digestive system. A great principle in caring for your ds is found in how you combine your foods. If you do not mix fats/proteins w/carbs, this makes for easier digestion PLUS the fat will not be stored with the carbs! If you do what I am going to suggest, I can guarantee those love handles and back/ass fat WILL melt off.
OK. Start your day w/a fat meal ~ no carbs [not any!]. Then when you eat the rest of the day, just make sure you do not mix the fats/proteins w/carbs. OH and be sure to stay away from boxed, processed foods that are junk! NO white breads, or sugar! You cannot eat this way half-ass ~ you must do it fully.
For more great info go the suzannesomers.com . You will find all you need to know there. BTW ~ I lost 70 lbs in 2.5 months eating this way. I was eating foods that the "diet industry" would say to avoid. I did such the opposite and avoided foods they put out, such as: lowfat/no fat. These foods are very bad for us and when you go "no fat", expect to be fat. ALSO. Eating to have a healthy digestive system is a lifestyle choice. REMEMBER, you ds is your second brain! Treat it well and good luck to ya!
I totally disagree. Fat around the midsection is from a surplus of calories in versus calories out; whether those calories are from carbs or not is irrelevant. Whether fat is stored or not does not depend on whether it is combined with other macronutrient groups. If you lost weight doing this, it was only because restricting the food groups you could eat at certain times resulted in a lower overall intake.
It is also virtually impossible to avoid combining macronutrients; the only one to come in relatively pure form is fat. Protein usually contains carbs and often fat, carbs usually contain some fat and protein. Beans, chickpeas, chicken, steak, yoghurt: all contain fat, protein and carbs. Are you really going to eat a steak or chicken breast with no veges? Vegetables are carbs. Are you going to cut out all dairy? Milk, yoghurt and cheese contain fat + protein + carbs. Are you going to avoid eating until all the food in your stomach has totally digested before eating another meal?
I think you get my point: even if there were any logic to this way of eating, you actually can't eat this way anyway.
yeah, well... in my post to you I did not tell you everything [I referred you to Suzanne's site. Science backs what I've said. Yes, there is w/o a doubt foods that contain carbs/proteins;[however, these are veg proteins, which is different from the meat proteins. I would never eliminate any food group, just some foods w/in that group. For example, corn is a food I would eliminate [while healing these cells]. I think you may have a preconceived idea about what I've said, or about Suzanne. What I have described is nothing like Atkins, if that is what you are thinking. I would never eat that way. I think of the saying, "the proof is in the pudding". I ate great, felt great, and lost the weight. My husband came on board w/me and though he didn't have much to lose, he did lose the belly fat he said he could never lose cause "it's been there since highschool". Well my intention was to help you out. You are always free to continue with what you are doing. After all, your way of understanding things is getting you the results you are looking for. Best to you!
BTW ~ weight loss doesn't always come from the calorie in vs burnt equation. The "diet world" and most of it's "specialist" don't have a clue what they are talking about and most refuse to leave their old school ways of thinking. When I lost the weight I mentioned earlier I cannot tell you how many calories I've consumed per day. What I can tell you is that my success did not come from any type of working out. I have a dog, so I do go for walks, but at that time I didn't do much else. Now I hike weekly, and am very active during the week. The only thing I have to be mindful of is that sugar is a killer... with this in mind, making healthy eating decisions is much easier. All the other "diet" info can be [almost] garbaged. I like to keep things, simple and stupid. ![]()
To get rid of bodyfat in the mid-section, you need to change what you are eating first and foremost. Diet plays the biggest part in how your body looks. A lot of people think that they can eat whatever they want because they workout. Definitely not true. Make sure you are getting enough calories of the right foods. You want 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight, complex carbs from whole grains, fruits/vegetables, healthy fats, and a lot of water. Take one day a week where you have 1-2 moderately sized cheat meals. Eat strict the other six days of the week.
Lifting weights is also very important. Try to get on a full-body weightlifting routine three times a week. By lifting heavy with free weight compound exercises (bench press, squat, standing military press, barbel row, deadlift, etc) you will add muscle much faster which is the best way to lose bodyfat. Plus, a lot of these exercises involve your abs. So when you begin to lose the bodyfat around your mid-section, your abs will be even more developed. I have gotten better abs from weight-lifting then I ever did doing endless sets of crunches.
Finally, you need to do a form of cardio that targets bodyfat and spares muscle. That is HIIT (High Intensity Interval Training). Check out the thread here :http://caloriecount.about.com/hiit-thread-pos t-all-questions-routines-ft143813
Yeah. In place of weights, resistance bands are great ~ not too hard but awesome results. When I first heard of these bands it was from a guy who teaches this in the community. He shared a story about his grown son who is in the military. Well, his son had to away and that meant he would not be able to train like the other guys coz where he was going [not military related], there weren't any facilities. So, his dad told him to take bands along. Well, when he came back he was in better shape than the guys who were working w/free weights. I have done free and stationary weights, as well as bands. I love the bands and don't miss the gym. As far as the food thing goes. I have been around this block long enough to know that not everyone gets fat coz of the same reason, and not everyone can [or will] be able to follow a certain "diet". Most ppl want to lose the weight, but not the behaviors that got them fat. Also the whole thing about carbs in vs carbs spent is a load of crap! Also, the whole notion that it takes so many cals to sustain a certain weight. I've done the math... I should be a stick woman! lol. Good tip re cheating. The women at my weight loss group take our weigh in day as their cheat day, and go for lunch after the meeting. I haven't learned how to cheat in this structured way, so I can only either cheat or not. If I cheat I can become depressed coz I will feel it in my body and feel I am losing momentum. I'm not free enough w/food right now, so it's better for me to stay focused on the prize, not the pizza! lol.
Original Post by territalk:
BTW ~ weight loss doesn't always come from the calorie in vs burnt equation.
Um, yes it does, the science is settled on that one. Might want to read up on the Law of Conservation of Mass.
Original Post by territalk:
Science backs what I've said.
If that's true then you can probably provide lots of peer-reviewed studies to back up your statements?
Original Post by territalk:
Science backs what I've said.
Science backs a lot of things if you give the appropriate lab or university enough money. Science also backs every bodybuilding, sports and health supplement on the market. Does that mean they all work?
Suzanne Somers has a drug regime that easily outstrips that of any chemical-fuelled professional bodybuilder; I wouldn't go taking health advice from someone who thinks it's a good idea to tout "bio-identical hormones" with the closest thing to religious fervor and despite the increased cancer risk from estrogen supplementation continue to inject hormones vaginally even in the face of a couple breast cancers and a precancerous condition necessitating a hysterectomy.
Actually, science doesn't back "every" supplement on the market, properly conducted science hardly backs anything that isn't an actual steroid or creatine. There's a marked difference between real science conducted in a lab with proper double-blind placebo controls and the "studies" from supplement companies which range from "four rats in my garage" via "we gave these caffeine-and-pixie-dusted-amazonian-herbs- capsules to some local gym rats and they swear they felt a buzz"to "we gave this junk to Jay Cutler and we totally swear it's this and not the $20,000 in steroids he injects anually that made him this size".
Even Sports Illustrated who usually shills like mad for the supplement industry has picked up on the fact that it's all fun and games until Hydroycut gets recalled when someone's liver melts.
Dieting is really very simple, so is exercise - when you strip out all the noise from people out to sell you stuff, anyway. When you lost weight, you were achieveing a modest calorie deficit through a combination of exercise (walking is exercise) and modest dietary restraint (cutting out high-GI carbs is generally an easy way to reduce calories without deprivation) and as a result you lost weight.
Which is exactly the right way to do it; find something active you can do a lot of, and cut out some food that isn't really very good for you; and then apply some patience while your body adjusts to the new equilibrium.
Original Post by melkor:
There's a marked difference between real science conducted in a lab with proper double-blind placebo controls and the "studies" from supplement companies which range from "four rats in my garage" via "we gave these caffeine-and-pixie-dusted-amazonian-herbs- capsules to some local gym rats and they swear they felt a buzz"to "we gave this junk to Jay Cutler and we totally swear it's this and not the $20,000 in steroids he injects anually that made him this size".
That's the point I was making.
NO it doesn't and this is not up for debate. I've done the math and if it were as simple as science, I'd be a stick person. AS A MATTER OF FACT, many ppl [myself included] will gain weight if they do not eat enough calories. Oh yeah, we hear about how your body thinks it's starving, so it stores food for later. The fact of the matter is there is not enough known about overweight/obesity. There are so many "answers". Much of what science says on this is a bunch of ****. For example: for yrs fat has been blamed for cardio sicknesses, when it is SUGAR not fat that causes this problem. So in response to people wanting/needing to lose weight, what does popular science tell people to do? Well, they are told to stay away from fat, and buy nofat/lowfat products. OH really? Then they are loading up with unhealthy carbs instead. HEY, I've been around the block a few times on this [how does 30 yrs grab ya?]. I know **** when I hear it. We often like things to be simple and wrapped nice. The fact is YOU CAN EAT LESS CALORIES THAN YOU BURN AND STILL NOT LOSE WEIGHT. My most recent example is last week. Everyday I burnt more calories than I took in [by the way the cals I took in were good cals], and at my friday weigh in I was UP 3.5 lbs. That messed up my losing spreed! I was pretty dissappointed. Ppl want to encourage me saying it's probably muscle. LOL. Well, it's not possible... they were nice though. So, why did I gain weight???
I am talking about the simple science of how the digestion system works.
Don't be so rude.
Yeah, you too can read my post I left for the other person. I am a university student, soon to graduate. I'm not an idiot and I do know about the scientific process, etc.... To learn more about science and what I've been talking about you may want to inform yourself on the science of endrocronology [check spelling]. This issue is far more complex than you, or the other poster seems to understand. I wish you well as you educate youself.
You may want to check out a forum that helps angry ppl. You're rude, and arrogant. Don't bother replying to my posts coz you've lost all credibility.
I've read through all of these posts, and territalk, you seem to the one that is coming across as rude.
These people have also been doing this for a long time, and they don't take the word of celebrities like Suzanne Somers as gospel. They have read a lot and have articles to cite that show that they have researched their positions. They asked you for anything you could cite to back up your opinions and you attacked them and said that is "wasn't up for debate"??????
And yeah, okay, you ate fewer caloires than you burned one week and still put on weight. There are dozens of postings asking "how can this happen" and it does. Typically it's one 2-3 things. YOu're retaining water due to high sodium intake, you ate a lot the day before and the "bulk" of that food has not passed through your system, of you did not properly account for your calories (intake or output) and are fooling yourself.
Original Post by territalk:
You may want to check out a forum that helps angry ppl. You're rude, and arrogant. Don't bother replying to my posts coz you've lost all credibility.
I'm not even sure who you're picking out because honestly I can't see any rudeness in any of the above replies to your comments.
Original Post by territalk:
AS A MATTER OF FACT, many ppl [myself included] will gain weight if they do not eat enough calories. Oh yeah, we hear about how your body thinks it's starving, so it stores food for later.
Right, you can gain water weight when eating fewer calories than you burn, you can not gain fat or lean tissue.
Original Post by territalk:
The fact of the matter is there is not enough known about overweight/obesity.
So, there isn't enough known, but Suzanne Somers knows everything? Why is she hiding all this information/research?
Original Post by territalk:
There are so many "answers". Much of what science says on this is a bunch of ****. For example: for yrs fat has been blamed for cardio sicknesses, when it is SUGAR not fat that causes this problem.
There has never been any good science that concluded fats (other than trans fats) were the problem. Just because a bunch of people (like Suzanne Somers) are trying to sell you something, doesn't mean it's science.
Original Post by territalk:
I know **** when I hear it.
Your willingness to believe garbage advice from an actress who is in no way, shape, or form qualified to give said advice, suggests otherwise.
Original Post by territalk:
The fact is YOU CAN EAT LESS CALORIES THAN YOU BURN AND STILL NOT LOSE WEIGHT.
Other than fluctuations caused by changes in hydration levels, no you can't.
Original Post by territalk:
My most recent example is last week. Everyday I burnt more calories than I took in How do you know? [by the way the cals I took in were good cals], and at my friday weigh in I was UP 3.5 lbs. That messed up my losing spreed! I was pretty dissappointed. Ppl want to encourage me saying it's probably muscle. LOL. Well, it's not possible... they were nice though. So, why did I gain weight???
If you gained weight it's either because:
1) you consumed more calories than you burned
2) you're retaining more water or have more food in your stomach than the last time you weighed yourself
3) your scale is off.
Older women who follow Suzanne's teachings [which includes info from dr's] seem to feel better and have a more enjoyable life. I don't have an issue with that.
As for her teaching of how to eat; that is not her idea. It is her discovery by researching how ppl in other countries [cultures] eat. Along with a famous American Endrocronologist Dr. Diana Schwarzbein, [and other drs], put some books together.
I've listened to the "science world" about this issue for 30 yrs and they don't know much. I have read some recent studies regarding genes, etc.. non of which helps me. One of Suzanne's books is called "Eat Great, Lose Weight", and that is exactly what happened. How could that be wrong? JK, I know it's not.
When it comes to a discussion about weight loss, and other related issues, ppl need to listen more than they talk. Experience is a great teacher and I've had 30 yrs of it. People are constantly trying to recreate the wheel coz not enough ppl have selfcontrol and can stick to eating healthy. If our society had a clue it would demand that these nofat/nonfat products [oh, and many others] be taken off the market.
Let's all remember to limit how selfrighteous we are on here.
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