lower ab/oblique exercises!?!?

im 18 and i do spin/kickboxing/weight training 5-6 times a week. im finding that my normal ab routines arent affecting me anymore. i like to wake up sore the next day... and i havent for a while now. any suggestions on good lower ab and oblique exercises to help me mix up my routine!?

try something like pilates. After 10 min.s i'm burning. It really focuses on those lower abs. Look some up on youtube and try a couple just to see if you're interested. Then if you are you will know before signing up for a class at a gym and having a pay for it.

what is your list of ab workouts?

 personaly, lying down leg lifts get me, also holding situps half way through for awhile will really work the lower abs

 the key to legs lifts is to not work the legs but using your quads, but using lower abs to keep them up

I was told that it is actually not good for your body to get sore after a workout.  Not sure if this is true, but a the very least maybe it shouldn't be such a goal to make yourself hurt. 

sit-ups on an incline get me every time!  Planks also do the trick, to a lesser extent.

ooo is your current routine similar to this? Ab Boot Camp! once a month i try my hardest to do this to the best of my ability.

on the topic of hurt after a workout - it depends on your definition if hurt.

if i can't move, or actually am limping or am seeking medical advice or taking pain medication at all - i hope the life police arrest me for stupidity before i do it again.

but then, there is the normal light pain and "fresh ache" you get from a job well done. ever pile wood? shovel snow? move to another house? the pain is quite similar for a normally active adult. if you never ever move off the couch, these activities could knock the wind out of you... but if you are active, you know the difference between sore and too sore.

like, my legs hurt today because i did two sets of squats at a new weight. i am not walking funny and not exhausted. going about my day normally and no one knows but me that there is a little ache there. in fact, my mood is improved. today i will likely inflict a similar deal on my back or abs, depending on how i feel once i get to the gym. after this thread, i think it will be Ab Boot Camp Day!! 

 

This one makes me hurt - in the good way (and it works your arms at the same time).  You essentially get into plank position, but with the tops of your feet resting on a stability ball (you should look like a table - with your arms and the ball forming the table "legs" and your torso and legs forming the table "top"). Then you curl your feet towards you and back out again, rolling the ball in and out (your arms stay straight).  I was shaking the first time I tried these!  Enjoy!

These, but I sit the other way (so the longer sides of the bench are to my right/left), and I balance my butt at the edge, this not only gives me a greater range of motion with my legs if I want to make them more straight, but also uses other muscles to keep me balanced. I also will do this while balancing on my right/left sides so I work the obliques: http://www.shapefit.com/abs-exercises-flat-be nch-leg-pull-in s.html

I love this one: http://www.shapefit.com/abs-exercises-inverte d-exercise-ball -leg-pull-ins.html

Captains Chair is also good too.

The move I do most of the time is laying on my back, hands (or folded towel) under your butt to support the tailbone. One leg is out straight parallel to and hoovering over the ground, and with the other you bring your knee to your chest, then alternate legs, focusing on pulling the bellybutton into the spine. Another way I do this is to not put hands/towel under your butt, but bring your shoulders off the ground and holding it there (working upper abs too) while you do the leg work.

Wow! I just found this one..I can't wait to try the "Intense" exercise listed here: http://www.bestabs.com/Resources/Exercises/Re gionDetails.aspx?region=2

spookychick, that website is amazing.  Thank you for that!

Try 45 degree roman chair situps.

i take an "ablab" class at my rec. center, which is 30 minutes of intense workouts. at ablab we do a lot of work with partners, medicine balls, and fit balls... i do this class about twice a week, so it keeps things interesting... then on my own days.,, my usual routine is this:

3 run throughs of 10 regular crunches, 10 "reaching for the rope" across my body (on each side), 10 crunches with my arms by my side.

then i do 3 sets of 20 oblique twists with a 3 lb medicine ball, followed by 3 sets of 10 reverse crunches.

then i do leg lifts, swimmers kicks, planks, and side planks!!

 

ps. thank you for all the advice guys!! its great!!

oh, and by "sore" i mean the good sore!! the one where you dont feel it until you stretch... and it just feels refreshing!!

i've also started doing power yoga, and thats really made my core sore!!