never eating breakfast again!

ok i KNOW all that research says breakfast is a must for weight loss. but keep in mind the times i eat during the day:

11am - school lunch period (normal sized meal)

4pm (ish) - after school (i eat soooo much!)

7pm (ish) - dinner (very light)

first of all, lunchtime is super early, so it's basically like breakfast. if i eat breakfast before school, it's just another meal, and with my 1200 calorie diet, i can't really afford four meals. and all that stuff about breakfast curbing your appetite- i eat a ton all day whether i eat breakfast or not.

regardless, i attempted breakfast this morning with a small bowl of cereal and nuts. it kickstarted my metabolism (i guess) so i was starving when it was lunchtime- hello, bagel with cream cheese and chocolate chip cookies! when i got home i had my usual snack (meal) of yogurt and hot chocolate and fruit. not to mention dinner and dessert... anyway, i ended up with at least a 1500 calorie day. without the cereal and nuts i'd probably still be around 1250. and this is why i'm not eating breakfast tomorrow.

So, what, want a pat on the back or something?  Or are we supposed to talk you out of this nonsense and make you feel better about your poor eating choices and poor ways of dealing with them?

I think its fine... everyone is different and you should do what works for you. My concern would be tho that if you are still at school you probably need more than 1200 calories anyway.

Personally, I don't really like eating breakfast either unless I won't be eating lunch until late. I also don't have time before class because I'm always hitting the snooze button one too many times. I know it's not the best idea, but it isn't the end of the world in my opinion. If I were you though, I would just skip the bagel and cream cheese and cookies. Bring your own lunch to school and don't bring any money to buy snacks. If school starts early, you really should eat something before because you shouldn't go tooo long without food. I have class at 9:30 so I eat after that, which ends up being like 10:30 or 11 so it really isn't that long. I'm not sure if it's true that you HAVE to eat breakfast and all that, but don't starve yourself until lunch just to have extra calories.

I am taking that you are a teenager.
You should be eating about 1500 calories or more every day to continue developing your body.
Try eating some fruit for breakfast, and maybe putting some fruit in your bag for your lunch as well.
Please be kind to your body, it needs you to feed it and keep it healthy.

Eating breakfast DOES kickstart your metabolism, which is why it helps you lose weight.  Cereal really isn't the best thing to eat if you want to curb your appetite though, as it's so easily digested.  Try a boiled egg and granola with yogurt. 

If you're a teenager, which I assume you are since you eat at an assigned school lunch period, you can probably still lose on 1500 calories a day.  Or hey, why don't you add in some exercise and lose on 1800 a day?

Finally, it's not breakfast's fault that you had a bagel and a chocolate chip cookie for lunch -- that was your choice.  Next time try adding an apple and a protein bar to your lunch -- less cals, more filling.

Actually, in your case I think you ended up accidentally getting it right.

The basic formula for minimum calories to lose weight is 1200F/1500M +300teen +activity.  Women need 1200 calories for basic body functions, men need 1500, teens need the extra 300 for internal development and growing in the upward direction.  Some people will be an exception to this, but usually in needing more calories due to their height.  Activity is the best variable in the equation to play with.  If you're doing an hour of PE and eat 1500 calories then you're already at the 500+ deficit range.

Whether or not you choose to eat breakfast is up to you, but 1200 calories is most likely too few for you.  If you'd like me to run your numbers and provide the reference links, send me a PM with your stats - height, current weight, goal weight, frame size, age, calorie intake, activity level (this offer is open to anyone).

Original Post by cellulitedelight:

So, what, want a pat on the back or something?  Or are we supposed to talk you out of this nonsense and make you feel better about your poor eating choices and poor ways of dealing with them?

 

Well, that's just uncalled for. If she's having issues with eating breakfast, I see no problem with it as long as she's still eating healthy and satisfying herself with her calorie goal. I get so tired of reading comments like that when someone makes a post. Obviously, she posted that in order to start a discussion or make a LIGHT comment.

Folks, not everyone is wired the same as the general population. Some people can live just fine with eating 2 meals a day. So be it.

I always ate breakfast until a month or so ago. Healthy ceral, porridge or ocassional toast and a glass of fruit juice. By 11.30 id be ravenous, and want a snack to tide me over till lunch, or have lunch at 12 which meant i then was hungry again by 4pm.

Ive discovered that if i dont eat breafast im often less hungry, almost as if my tummy isnt demanding to get feed again as its finished processing what was in it.

The stats that show those who eat breakfast usally weigh less than those who dont are based on the theory that eating a 300cals heathly breakfast will keep you going till lunch rather than the people without breakfast buying candy on the way to school or grazing through a packet of cookies at 10am with their morning coffee, therefore actually consuming more calories

I always eat a large breakfast of porridge and fruit (its surprising how filling it is!) And so, i dont need to eat another meal untill i arrive home from school at 3.20pm, although i will have some fruit at either 11am or 1.15pm.

I find this helps, as i wont overeat at school (which used to be my biggest problem) and then, i can eat more in the afternoon.

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I agree with some above posters who have said if you're a teen, bring it up to at least 1500.

But, I agree with you that all people don't need breakfast. I have tried the whole eating breakfast thing. Gave it a good try a few times, eating a good breaky every day for a month and it only made me hungry and sluggish.

Original Post by momof2kt:

Original Post by cellulitedelight:

So, what, want a pat on the back or something?  Or are we supposed to talk you out of this nonsense and make you feel better about your poor eating choices and poor ways of dealing with them?

 

Well, that's just uncalled for. If she's having issues with eating breakfast, I see no problem with it as long as she's still eating healthy and satisfying herself with her calorie goal. I get so tired of reading comments like that when someone makes a post. Obviously, she posted that in order to start a discussion or make a LIGHT comment.

Folks, not everyone is wired the same as the general population. Some people can live just fine with eating 2 meals a day. So be it.

cellulitedelight is spot on though. She wants people to support her unhealthy eating habits, is that what the website is for?

if she wants to eat poorly and not be succesful statistically then she could continue doing what she wants. Eating breakfast does kick start your metabolism and give you energy to perform. But she's in school, why would she want to do that? <--- sarcasm.

Original Post by archer531:

Original Post by momof2kt:

Original Post by cellulitedelight:

So, what, want a pat on the back or something?  Or are we supposed to talk you out of this nonsense and make you feel better about your poor eating choices and poor ways of dealing with them?

 

Well, that's just uncalled for. If she's having issues with eating breakfast, I see no problem with it as long as she's still eating healthy and satisfying herself with her calorie goal. I get so tired of reading comments like that when someone makes a post. Obviously, she posted that in order to start a discussion or make a LIGHT comment.

Folks, not everyone is wired the same as the general population. Some people can live just fine with eating 2 meals a day. So be it.

cellulitedelight is spot on though. She wants people to support her unhealthy eating habits, is that what the website is for?

if she wants to eat poorly and not be succesful statistically then she could continue doing what she wants. Eating breakfast does kick start your metabolism and give you energy to perform. But she's in school, why would she want to do that? <--- sarcasm.

 

This is breakfast. Next, I guess you'll say that people aren't eating healthy unless they're eating 6 small meals per day.

Look, if she can't eat breakfast without it causing her to become even hungrier throughout the day, there is absolutely nothing wrong with her skipping it. Well, as long as she's eating healthy foods and a healthy amount of calories for her age, height, weight, and fitness routine.

If her body can fully function without breakfast, what's the big deal? I went years without eating breakfast and functioned just fine. It's probably healthier to eat breakfast and I make sure my own kids eat breakfast. However, she knows how her body feels, not us.

And no, no one is "spot on" with sarcastic comments in a community where support is so needed. You can call it "tough love" all you'd like. I'll wager that more people end up being turned off because of poorly stated comments than they would be if people would learn that there is a right and a wrong way to say absolutely everything.

Do you realize that a high number of people who seek support through the online community do so because they have no support in their real lives? If they come here and get the same attitudes they get outside, what's the point?

I really believe that everyone's body is different....not one single plan will satisfy ALL our different beings.  that being said, if it works for you, GO WITH IT!  However, LISTEN to your body.  Your body will tell you if you are getting everything it needs.  Remember.....all this hard work we are ALL doing should be considered a LIFELONG lifestyle change, not a fad or phase. 

~H~

Eating breakfast and it's connection to weight loss is based on epidimiological research.  It's not a given law for everyone.  Stiatistically, the breakfast/weight loss connection could be true for 60% of all people and false or no effect for 40%, and it will be reported as "more likely to lose weight if you eat breakfast."

If her matabolism is boosted, will it be boosted enough to burn the extra calories consumed at breakfast?  If eating a breakfast gives her cravings to eat junk at lunch, is it still worth it? 

I don't know about the answer to the first question.  I would say no to the second question.  So I don't think it's neccessarily a bad decision (and it could actually be a good decision) to not force down a breakfast if you don't want it and if you don't feel lethargic until lunch.

Eating 6 small meals is different then eating breakfast. Find a doctor or nutrionist who recommends not eating breakfast and get back to me, ok?

She wasn't eating a healthy breakfast, of course she was hungry right away. So she should give up doing something the right way? C'mon...

 Why do you want your kids to eat breakfast? Why wouldn't you want that for this kid too?

 But you are right, more tact should have been used in her response. The message of it I agree with.

 

 

How did she not eat a healthy breakfast? She said she ate a small bowl of cereal and nuts. Depending on the kind of cereal, that sounds perfectly healthy to me. To be honest, I eat cereal for breakfast very often. Of course, doctors and nutritionalists recommend their patients to eat breakfast. However, if an individual tries to do that and it doesn't work for them, there are other ways to accomplish eating healthy.

I have my own kids eat breakfast because I know that they need to. My children are still in elementary school. Honestly, I'd still encourage them to eat breakfast if they were older. They are in my charge and it's my job to make sure that they're getting the nutrition they need. When they grow up and are mature enough to fully realize how their bodies react to certain practices, it's their decision, not mine. That's my point. She knows how her body feels. She is an individual and even though doctors recommend that everyone should eat breakfast everyday, that just doesn't fit every single person in this world.

If the lady finds that she cannot stay within her calorie budget for the day if she eats breakfast, don't drag her out behind a building and stone her for it.

I'm not saying she should scarf down honey buns and ice cream for every meal.

What is unhealthy about a bowl of cereal and nuts?

If she were to approach a doctor/nutritionist and say what she has said, including the part about the cravings, then I seriously doubt they would advise her to eat breakfast.  The importance of breakfast isn't as universally accepted by scientists as you think.

http://www.funenclave.com/reality-bites/the-b reakfast-hype-1185.html

ok, comparing me giving my opinion on an internet message board and stoneing her for it is ridiculous and offensive. I gave my opinion... she can do with it what she wants.

 

That link was hysterical though, one guy based his on "animal data" and another told one group to skip breakfast and the other group to do "an all you can eat" breakfast. LOL, too funny...

 

She can eat or not eat breakfast, i'm just some dude on the computer. I gave my opinion... without stones even. *roll*

If you take every comment on an internet message board at it's literal meaning, animal data is the least of your problems.

That being said, there is so much research done on weight loss that it's unreal. We never know if what we're doing is what's best for our bodies. Personally, I think people should do what fits their own bodies on an individual level instead of relying on scientists, nutritionalists, and dudes on computers.

Note: the dudes on computers crack was said in a light hearted manner and was not meant in an offensive way.

Original Post by momof2kt:

If you take every comment on an internet message board at it's literal meaning, animal data is the least of your problems.

If justifying makes you feel better then go ahead.

 

On topic, i'll go with the vast majority of the medical community and not literal lab rats. The poster can do what she wishes, starting to eat breakfast and a healthy one has helped me lose over 100lbs. Skipping breakfast helped me gain 100lbs. Go figure.