http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/ 28/mccain-retracts-palins-pakistan-comments/? iref=werecommend
McCain is now retracting Palin's "gaffe" at a Philadelphia cheesesteak stand. I'm getting more and more worried. Let her off the leash, McCain. We might find out how much she actually doesn't agree with you!
McCain should text Palin her stance on the topic before she contradicts him again. Seriously? Seriously! I think they should be in constant contact so he can verify her comments before they're broadcaster. She can't even retract her own stance?!
Mc.Cain can't delegate the responsibility of her own words to her? O_o
Mc.Cain can't delegate the responsibility of the campaign to her either? o_O
That's pathetic.
what's funny is that she's so clueless she doesn't even know what she doesn't know. she was with her daughter, wasn't she? how hard would it have been to have pulled the "this is family time" card and dodge the political questions?
And did anyone notice during the debate that when McCain was referencing Pakistan, he claimed that it was a failed state? And that "everyone who was around then knew that..."
Earth to John: Pakistan was a duly elected democracy!
Original Post by suamere:
McCain should text Palin her stance on the topic before she contradicts him again. Seriously? Seriously! I think they should be in constant contact so he can verify her comments before they're broadcaster. She can't even retract her own stance?!
Mc.Cain can't delegate the responsibility of her own words to her? O_o
Mc.Cain can't delegate the responsibility of the campaign to her either? o_O
That's pathetic.
Just in case you think only McCain has this problem, Obama's position on clean coal has been mistakenly contradicted by Biden, perhaps Joe hasn't bothered to read Obama's website yet?
Guys, I know it's fun to play "the other team is <insert insult here>" but this is an election, not a football match, so you may want to take off your partisan blinders.
Original Post by ignayshus:
Original Post by suamere:
McCain should text Palin her stance on the topic before she contradicts him again. Seriously? Seriously! I think they should be in constant contact so he can verify her comments before they're broadcaster. She can't even retract her own stance?!
Mc.Cain can't delegate the responsibility of her own words to her? O_o
Mc.Cain can't delegate the responsibility of the campaign to her either? o_O
That's pathetic.
Just in case you think only McCain has this problem, Obama's position on clean coal has been mistakenly contradicted by Biden, perhaps Joe hasn't bothered to read Obama's website yet?
Guys, I know it's fun to play "the other team is " but this is an election, not a football match, so you may want to take off your partisan blinders.
In all fairness:
Biden's interviews since being selected VP: 100+
Palin's interviews since being selected VP: 3
I can't wait for this bloodbath on Thursday.
You know, there is one thing about that article that bothers me. It's not that she either disagrees with McCain on that subject, was unclear about what her full position is, or just doesn't know her ticket's stance on the subject.
It's the clear lack of respect that McCain showed by retracting his running mate's statement. If you disagree, fine, say that. If she wants to retract it, fine, let her do it. But by retracting a statement made by your running mate you are either saying their views don't matter or you don't think them capable of having a valid opinion. It doesn't show faith, trust, or confidence in the running mate.
Honestly having the strength to pick a VP who disagreed with you in some respect (and admit the disagreement) would impress me on a ticket. It means you are able to disagree in a civil manner. It means you value the opinions of others even if they are in contrast to your own. It means you can work well with others! Just because we think we are right on all our views doesn't mean we can't learn something from those who don't agree. Quite the opposite.
Anyway, that's my political rant.
Original Post by jdroller:
Original Post by ignayshus:
Original Post by suamere:
McCain should text Palin her stance on the topic before she contradicts him again. Seriously? Seriously! I think they should be in constant contact so he can verify her comments before they're broadcaster. She can't even retract her own stance?!
Mc.Cain can't delegate the responsibility of her own words to her? O_o
Mc.Cain can't delegate the responsibility of the campaign to her either? o_O
That's pathetic.
Just in case you think only McCain has this problem, Obama's position on clean coal has been mistakenly contradicted by Biden, perhaps Joe hasn't bothered to read Obama's website yet?
Guys, I know it's fun to play "the other team is " but this is an election, not a football match, so you may want to take off your partisan blinders.
In all fairness:
Biden's interviews since being selected VP: 100+
Palin's interviews since being selected VP: 3
I can't wait for this bloodbath on Thursday.
Yet it was something so important that Obama spelled it out on his public agenda.
You can discount it all you want, that's what partisan bias is all about, rant about the flaws in your team's opponent and ignore the same flaws in your "team".
What, imho, you should take away from these gaffes is merely that their stated positions on any matter isn't as black and white as our politicians would have you believe, which is why you get message mistakes. Unfortunately such messages are easier to sell than, "well my opponent and I agree for the most part the issue, but we differ on some of the specifics," when you're trying to convince your base that the other "team" is the anti-christ.
Not necessarily. McCain picked Palin to try to swing the Clinton vote. Perhaps he didn't know enough about her when he picked her and it's obvious she knows nothing about where McCain stands.
Biden and Obama aren't 100% in agreement on things either... it's the nature of the game. However, Palin knows nothing.
I am not all in favor of the McCain/Palin ticket nor am I all in favor of the Obama/Biden ticket. I watched some of the debates and it didn't help make up my mind one way or the other. I believe the majority of politicians will tell us what we want to hear then do what they want in Washington. When and how are we as a nation going to stand up and let "them" know that we expect and demand better? Find me someone who can do that and I will vote for them.
The fact that McCain chose Palin as a running mate (as opposed to her just being in charge of a bake sale) makes me question who he'd pick for his cabinet...if elected, be afraid, be very afraid.
Finding Palin ill equipped for the position at hand is not a partisan stance, it is an obvious assessment.
McCain picked Palin to try to swing the Clinton vote.
Swinging the Clinton vote would have been much easier if he hadn't picked the most conservative woman he could find. I highly doubt he was trying to win over the far left by giving them the far right. Maybe the "woman vote" in general, but not the pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, pro-universal health care, anti-war, etc. etc. Clinton supporters. "Obviously."
Biden and Obama aren't 100% in agreement on things either... it's the nature of the game. However, Palin knows nothing.
We'll see what happens Thursday. I don't believe anyone can judge her based on three interviews and an SNL skit. Let's not jump to conclusions.
Original Post by bagga:
The fact that McCain chose Palin as a running mate (as opposed to her just being in charge of a bake sale) makes me question who he'd pick for his cabinet...if elected, be afraid, be very afraid.
okay, i think this really is sexist ;)
I'd say she's proven how she knows nothing. Thursday's debate will reinforce that.
#8: I really feel for you - sincerely
I'd hate to feel I had to defend the choice of Palin (for anything other than the real reason he picked her - so that right wing, anti-choice, anti-gay marriage voters would turn out for McCain because without her, they wouldn't)
I'd hate to have to defend a VP candidate who has been kept from doing interviews and who, in the tiny handful of interviews she has given, has revealed herself to be uninformed and/or incomprehensible
Biden is a gaffe-machine. But at least nobody doubts that he knows and understands recent U.S. policy, generally how the financial system works, and that he is extremely knowledgable about foreign affairs.
I have been wondering what stunt McCain will come up with this week to get Palin out of the debate. Maybe one of her children will provide the excuse? Expectations for her are so low, at this point, if she even shows up and is coherant at all, it will be a job well done for her. And, yeah, that is kind of sad.
I think it is absolutely true that both candidates are trying to condense their messages for public consumption - I have no problem with a VP nom disagreeing with the boss...but as was pointed out earlier - McCain's retraction speaks volumes about her position within the campaign.
anyone see the interview of palin and katie couric - and then the pardoy on snl? great stuff
i have to admit, fey-palin is starting to blur with real-palin in my mind (the distinction, of course, is that fey-palin is way cuter). but i can't imagine that anyone still has any illusions about this woman's capabilities. the fact that iggy's here playing devil's advocate just means that we're at CC and iggy isn't dead.
but what's a little frightening is that the percentage of republicans who actually watch the debates has historically been far lower than the percentage of dems. so while we'll all be there confirming our opinions, those who might still think she's a good choice probably won't be watching (misskady, i assume, will be there confirming her disillusionment and/or apathy).
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