http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/ 28/mccain-retracts-palins-pakistan-comments/? iref=werecommend
McCain is now retracting Palin's "gaffe" at a Philadelphia cheesesteak stand. I'm getting more and more worried. Let her off the leash, McCain. We might find out how much she actually doesn't agree with you!
It's time to let Palin be Palin -- and let it all hang out," said Scott Reed, a Republican strategist.
Amid the heavy scrutiny in a close campaign, Gov. Palin is under considerable pressure to make Thursday's debate a "game changer," advisers said. The campaign is sending in Sen. McCain's debate coach, Brett O'Donnell, to help with her preparation, advisers said. Though he always was expected to help out after Sen. McCain's debate Friday in Oxford, Miss., Mr. O'Donnell now needs to "undo" much of her previous debate prep, which has resulted in occasional "rote" responses, one adviser said.
A "game changer"?! I think theyre just hoping she doesnt completely crash and burn unless they dont read reports of her prior interviews. Suspecting theyre real focus is to reduce damages and prep McCain on damage control for his next debate.
Here is the journalist we need to interview Palin LINK.
The journalists have been shameful.
Couric apologized for repeating questions in order to get an actual answer to them. Gibson explained the doctrine without following up with the obvious concern that he needed to. Both repeatedly accepted multiple non-answers and moved on.
They obviously are concerned with coming off as the heavy. Palin probably had it rougher when questioned during her beauty pagent run. Expecting Biden to not be as forgiving and remind her the seriousness of the nomination she accepted.
Original Post by pgeorgian:
...those who might still think she's a good choice probably won't be watching...
And when they hear all the reports about how much of a train-wreck Palin is they'll blame the fictional 'liberal media'.
Original Post by sun123:
Palin probably had it rougher when questioned during her beauty pagent run.
Alabama. A-L-A-B-A-M-A. Alaska. A-L-A-S-K-A...
Her lack of experience and her inability to express not only her own views but adequately relay her party's platform are an offense to my intellect, such as it is.
I am offended not only as a woman at the tokenism represented in her selection, but more importantly as a voter. The Republicans are as much as saying that the American people are too stupid to know the difference between a viable candidate and an empty-headed snow-bunny.
Original Post by ignayshus:
Original Post by suamere:
McCain should text Palin her stance on the topic before she contradicts him again. Seriously? Seriously! I think they should be in constant contact so he can verify her comments before they're broadcaster. She can't even retract her own stance?!
Mc.Cain can't delegate the responsibility of her own words to her? O_o
Mc.Cain can't delegate the responsibility of the campaign to her either? o_O
That's pathetic.
Just in case you think only McCain has this problem, Obama's position on clean coal has been mistakenly contradicted by Biden, perhaps Joe hasn't bothered to read Obama's website yet?
Guys, I know it's fun to play "the other team is " but this is an election, not a football match, so you may want to take off your partisan blinders.
I thought it was pretty pathetic too.
Original Post by kathygator:
The more I hear her speak the more affronted I am that the McCain camp had the knads to try this on.
Her lack of expereince and her inability to express not only her own views but adequately relay her party's platform are an offense to my intellect, such as it is.
I am offended not only as a woman at the tokenism represented in her selection, but more importantly as a voter. The Republicans are as much as saying that the American people are too stupid to know the difference between a viable candidate and an empty-headed snow-bunny.
Exactly. Plus, the republicans that actually show disdain are accused of having on their partisan blinders. As if they must be democrat to be opposed to Mc.Cain/Palin.The reality is that some republicans aren't pleased with the ticket. They're just as unhappy about it. (From either side of the ticket. From the left and right people are disappointed.)
Original Post by amethystgirl:
Original Post by sun123:
Palin probably had it rougher when questioned during her beauty pagent run.Alabama. A-L-A-B-A-M-A. Alaska. A-L-A-S-K-A...
haha - i got it amethystgirl. dunno if anyone else did, but i did. i can hear that minnesota accent in my head ;)
Thanks, pg :)
Original Post by laurensking:
McCain picked Palin to try to swing the Clinton vote.
Swinging the Clinton vote would have been much easier if he hadn't picked the most conservative woman he could find. I highly doubt he was trying to win over the far left by giving them the far right. Maybe the "woman vote" in general, but not the pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, pro-universal health care, anti-war, etc. etc. Clinton supporters. "Obviously."
Hilary could've been the first woman president. Some people were quite thrilled about her potential. The next president being a Obama or Hilary is history in the making. Either way... He needed some ' history in the making.' He's republican of course he's not going to choose someone with completely opposing views. However, I'm sure I'm not the only one that heard the joke... " Only way he could win this now would be to choose Hilary as his running mate. LOL " Sarah Palin as his VP is a political ploy based on her vajayjay.
Original Post by pgeorgian:
Original Post by amethystgirl:
Original Post by sun123:
Palin probably had it rougher when questioned during her beauty pagent run.Alabama. A-L-A-B-A-M-A. Alaska. A-L-A-S-K-A...
haha - i got it amethystgirl. dunno if anyone else did, but i did. i can hear that minnesota accent in my head ;)
Hahaa. ^5 That's hilarious!
Original Post by enchantingimage:
Original Post by ignayshus:
Original Post by suamere:
McCain should text Palin her stance on the topic before she contradicts him again. Seriously? Seriously! I think they should be in constant contact so he can verify her comments before they're broadcaster. She can't even retract her own stance?!
Mc.Cain can't delegate the responsibility of her own words to her? O_o
Mc.Cain can't delegate the responsibility of the campaign to her either? o_O
That's pathetic.
Just in case you think only McCain has this problem, Obama's position on clean coal has been mistakenly contradicted by Biden, perhaps Joe hasn't bothered to read Obama's website yet?
Guys, I know it's fun to play "the other team is " but this is an election, not a football match, so you may want to take off your partisan blinders.
That's just an assumption that you ran with about the poster. This thread is about Sarah Palin so you can take each post as negatively as you choose. Brow beat people post as much as you like but you don't know who's team they're on. Example: I'm republican! As could be some of the other people that find it pathetic. If you want to talk teams that's my party. However, the Republican ticket is disgusting to me. There aren't many republicans that are really that fond of Mc.Cain to be quite frank. Regardless, of whatever you choose to believe. The running mate of his choice was a HUGE factor to some republicans that already disliked him. However, his choice wasn't up to par at all. I can't believe he managed to pick someone I could dislike more than him. It was just as disappointing as his nomination. I suggest you take your judgment to the nearest fair.
Just because someone shows disdain towards Mc.Cain/Palin doesn't mean they're for the other team. At the same time just because you're a republican doesn't mean you're obligated to the current republican ticket. Some of us are bipartisan yet being accused by people with blinders such as yourself. As for Sarah Palin in comparison to Joe Biden?! All I can say to that is HAR HAR HAR. Perhaps, you should watch their interviews. I'd say watch the upcoming VP debate...but... Who knows? Mc.Cain may decide to stop the campaign... Or she may decline to attend to add suspense for when she finally shows up anyway? I'm pretty sure everyone is waiting for their next political ploy.
Original Post by enchantingimage:
Original Post by kathygator:
The more I hear her speak the more affronted I am that the McCain camp had the knads to try this on.
Her lack of expereince and her inability to express not only her own views but adequately relay her party's platform are an offense to my intellect, such as it is.
I am offended not only as a woman at the tokenism represented in her selection, but more importantly as a voter. The Republicans are as much as saying that the American people are too stupid to know the difference between a viable candidate and an empty-headed snow-bunny.Exactly. Plus, the republicans that actually show disdain are accused of having on their partisan blinders. As if they must be democrat to be opposed to Mc.Cain/Palin.The reality is that some republicans aren't pleased with the ticket. They're just as unhappy about it. (From either side of the ticket. From the left and right people are disappointed.)
Agree, totally. In fact, I think the Republicans have good reason to be far more upset than the Dems are; this makes them look like a joke. There were plenty of more qualified potential running mates who could have represented the party well. Both parties have smart, well-spoken people to choose from. I have always thought that the VP selection was a desperate move on McCain's part to have a chance at winning the election by motivating the right and picking up some moderate women, but that if he actually wins she is a terrible choice to do the job.
In contrast, Obama would have really had it made for the election had he chosen Clinton, but he picked a running mate who would be a good match for him in getting the work done. The way they chose their running mates alone tells me that Obama makes smarter, more thoughtful choices with the long-term impacts in mind.
This quality is even more important to me than the candidates' stance on the issues. Fortunately for me I also side with Obama on the issues. But if I sided with McCain on the issues, I think there is still a good chance I would pick Obama because he has demonstrated better decision-making skills.
By the way, I am not speaking against Clinton at all - I actually voted for her in the primary. I just don't think she was the right VP choice for Obama.
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I'm sorry, but calling Palin pathetic is borderline retarded. She managed to get herself elected the governor of a state. She was both their youngest governor and first female governor.
She managed to beat the incumbent, from her own party in the primaries, and then beat by 8% her democrat opponent who outspent her.
She has had an approval rating across all voters of greater than 90% since she took the job in 2006.
I'm sorry, but if she qualifies as "pathetic" I'm afraid to find out what that says about me and everyone else on these boards.
I call it partisan, because it is. It's irrational to call someone that successful "pathetic" because of a gaffe, that stems from your campaign trying to control the message for the base.
It's a retarded distraction, whether the target of the nonsense is Palin, Biden, Obama, McCain, whomever.
I'm no fan, but I understand her purpose. McCain needed to get the social conservatives to the polls and that's where she comes in. I would have liked to see Olympia Snowe as his running mate, and while that would have gotten the moderates, he probably would have lost half his base with that decision and would have had no chance of winning. And much as that probably pains everyone here, that's why you'll likely never see me as POTUS... I know, I know... I'll go get some tissues.
Just to clear the air, I never called her pathetic. I called McCain's quick leap to cover up her tracks pathetic.
And it is pathetic. Let her retract her own statements if she's as competent and well-liked as you say she is.
Dude... do you think Biden, retracted his gaffe? Double standards aren't something to rest your hat on.
edit: do you think I'm wrong that candidates' stated positions aren't likely their actual positions or at the very least not their entire position; and that the black n' white rhetoric is for their base?
If you're talking about the clean coal "gaffe," it was immediately connected to an argument about the Chinese abuse of coal. Biden's point was that China is building coal plants with outdated technology, which is causing environmental damage, something that should be loudly condemned by the U.S.
Biden and the Obama camp both made that clear on the 24th/25th. But I digress.
And no, you're not wrong. Everyone has a nuanced position. But there is no nuance involved when you have have one candidate on a ticket saying "We cannot conduct strikes in Pakistan" while the other says "If that's what we have to do stop the terrorists from coming any further in, absolutely, we should." These are diametrically opposed positions.
Furthermore, I am puzzled at John McCain's (the military strategist that he is) stubborn disagreement on this issue. Not only is he blinded by a Cold War mentality (evidenced by his "you don't say that in public" rant during the debate), he is snubbing a "leave all options open" outlook. Are you kidding me? This is coming from the guy who's evidently ready to wage war with Iran if they don't agree to "preconceived diplomacy."
Even his running mate, given an opportunity to answer a question based on her own critical reasoning skills and not fed a rote response by one of her many interview coaches, sided with Obama's panoramic view of the issue.
I'm sorry if pathetic is too strong a word for you and indicates some sort of underlying, partisan, incendiary smear tactic on my part, but this is becoming increasingly pathetic. And I hope the American public is intelligent enough, on the whole, to see that. Don't vote for these turds.
Obama:
Develop and Deploy Clean Coal Technology.
Obama’s Department of
Energy will enter into public private partnerships to develop five
“first-of-a-kind” commercial scale coal-fired plants with clean carbon
capture and sequestration technology
Biden:
"We're not supporting clean coal." <China bad, coal plants evil,etc.> "No coal plants here in America."
Where's the nuance? That strikes me as diametrically opposed, but I'd be happy to read whatever sources you can recommend.
The point is that Biden forgot what the "right message" was even though his actual position is probably more nuanced. Of course he's not going to share the nuanced position, because it doesn't sell as well as the rhetoric.
It's the same for palin, but feel free to rationalize.
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