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The Lounge Age.... Apr 16 2013
01:43 (UTC)
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^Yes, there is a big difference between a teenager and a twenty-something. I think a lot of maturing happens when you move out on your own. 

The Lounge Age.... Apr 16 2013
00:08 (UTC)
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Original Post by chickey_soup:

calorie counting isn't just for losing weight it;s for gaining and maintaining. the kids with eds don't bother me aside from the sadness of it. i don't anywhere think they are the majority - if they bug you, you're going to notice them.

i'd rather they be here then the pro-ana sites and maybe get some help. no one knows when the one little thing someone says to you is going to click. maybe it's because i have a daughter about to entire her teen years and though i've done everything i can to make sure she has a healthy body image, im scared its not enough. maybe it's because i remember being a teen and having body issues, when in hindsight there was never a reason (never an ed thoguh) or maybe just that i think people are people and we have choices - assume the best or the worst, treat people with compassion or righteous indignation. or some combination, i don't know.

frankly i think the have you tried - insert random fad way of eating and/or pill, supplement, cleanse here - are more annoying.

I'm sure you've done everything you can do as a mother. It's really awesome that you're doing everything you can to help promote a healthy body image. But don't blame yourself for any struggles she has (ED or otherwise) - just be there to listen. 

The Lounge Age.... Apr 15 2013
23:51 (UTC)
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Also, I try to spend most of my time in the lounge now. Definitely the most fun place on CC to be. :) I admit that I came here a couple years ago with a pretty disordered mindset. Not pro-ana, but not really ready to get better either. But now that I'm in a healthier place, I find that it's more triggering than it is helpful if I spent too much time talking with disordered people online, even though my conversations are focused on recovery. But.. the loungers are awesome, which is what keeps bringing me back to CC. ;) 

The Lounge So, This is where all the internet bullies chill huh? Apr 15 2013
23:45 (UTC)
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Original Post by catwalker:

Don't forget that what you think about fake cheese products and how cholesterol in eggs should be treated can cause quite a ruckus as well.

Ew, fake cheese is disgusting!

Canned cranberry sauce, on the other hand... ;)

The Lounge Age.... Apr 15 2013
23:27 (UTC)
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This isn't totally a response to the OP, more a response to other comments that have come up by pink tofu and others:

I despise pro-ana stuff as much as pink tofu and anyone else on this thread. This is a devastating illness, and it blows my mind when anyone would actually want to develop it. Pro-ana stuff is highly disturbing, especially for people trying to recover. 

I also agree that the internet is never a substitute for real medical advice. 

Finally, it is true that some of the people on here are using this as a place to fuel their eating disorder and stay sick, even if they say they're getting better, they're really just half-assing it. 

That being said, I don't think it's fair to automatically assume that every poster with an ED on here is pro-ana. Many people on here are seeing a doctor and actively recovering, and they want to talk to someone who has been through something similar or ask questions from someone who is in a better spot in recovery. I am not sure whether this is truly helpful or just triggering, but either way, it doesn't mean that every eating disordered teen on here is trying to stay sick. Many are trying to recover.

I consider myself very, very lucky that I had good health insurance and paid medical leave that allowed me to go to treatment for my eating disorder. I am very lucky that I had an awesome therapist that pushed me HARD to recover. And I'm lucky to have an eating disorders anonymous group that I can go to now that I'm out of treatment. I consider myself to be in a very good place right now and can see things from a much more rational (and less self-centered and obsessive and negative) light. 

That being said, not everyone is lucky enough to have access to medical treatment.  I think that most of the people on here are asking questions because they are trying to recover and either don't have access or money for a therapist, or don't really have anyone else in their life they can talk to about this. Again, I am not convinced that it is truly helpful talking to other disordered teens on the internet, but I still think it's an unfair assumption to automatically assume that everyone here with an eating disorder is pro-ana. 

ETA- That really wasn't meant to come off rant-y or anything - I'm just not good at being concise. :p

Health & Support daily weigh in good or bade Apr 15 2013
04:58 (UTC)
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Weight naturally fluctuates by a few pounds depending on how much food is in your system, how much water you're retaining, TTOM, etc. 

Foods dem condiments tho.... Apr 15 2013
01:57 (UTC)
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Original Post by zombers:

Original Post by eurogirl101:

Original Post by zombers:

i do lift weights that wasnt the question. i guess i didint word it well. i know what you eat affects your body composition.

ohh well, i would not suspect it would.. maybe making all natural dressings will transform body composition faster than if you were still eating plain condiments. It should not have much of an effect 

i mean i usually just have a couple tbsp of ketchup, maybe honey mustard if im feeling naughty lol

Condiments might not be particularly nutritious, but I highly doubt that a large percentage of your calories are coming from them.  I don't see how a couple tablespoons ketchup per day could change your body composition.

Fitness one boob higher than the other?! Apr 15 2013
01:42 (UTC)
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Original Post by blooroo:

:). Thanks everyone. You made me laugh and feel better about it. They were symmetrical before, but you know-- I prefer my stronger, leaner body and will just deal with my mismatched fruit.

And the ear piercing thing? Why would the piercer say that. I hate when new things to scrutinize are pointed out, we sure discover enough on our own.

He didn't mean it in a mean way. You just letting me know so that wouldn't blame him for my ear piercing being asymmetrical. I thought it was kind of funny, TBH.

The Lounge What kind of music do you guys like? Apr 15 2013
01:33 (UTC)
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Oh yeah, the Lumineers. Also a current favorite.

The Lounge What kind of music do you guys like? Apr 14 2013
20:56 (UTC)
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Some bands/artists I've recently gotten into - Josh Ritter, the Weepies (Hideaway is a beautiful album!), Grouplove,Thea Gilmore, New Politics, Of Monsters and Men, Noah and the Whale, Mumford and Sons, Andrew Bird, Brendan James

Health & Support What did you eat pre-ED? Apr 14 2013
20:18 (UTC)
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I really didn't intend for my first statement to be that controversial. I was just trying to encourage people to be pro-active in recovery. If you used to eat healthy/balanced pre-ED, then great - but don't just reminisce, DO it! And if you used to have somewhat disordered eating before your ED, then this post doesn't really apply to you. 

 

Health & Support What did you eat pre-ED? Apr 14 2013
20:04 (UTC)
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Original Post by sophieviolet:

Original Post by _adrienne_:

Original Post by bellealyce:

I think what I'm getting at is that if you had a healthy relationship with food prior to your illness, that's great, but if not then maybe use recovery as a clean slate to find it. I know personally for me it's terrifying, and recovery is going to be a hard road, because that healthy relationship is something that I've never ever had. I've never stayed in the healthy weight range for a stable period of time really.

I know what you mean. I'm kind-of the same way. I had anxiety and body image issues even before my ED started, and my relationship with food was somewhat disordered even before it developed into an eating disorder. I have either been overweight or underweight for most of my teens and early twenties. So for me, it's a clean slate too, and I'm very grateful that I had a treatment team to help me define what 'healthy' and 'balanced' is. But that's why I didn't post what I used to eat pre-ED - what's the point, if it wasn't healthy? I was mainly speaking to people such as the OP who did have a healthy relationship with food. Don't just write it down and look back at it longing for things to be the same; use it as a goal. 

I completely understand that not everyone ate healthy or balanced diets pre-ED, and that some people had problems with overeating or being overweight. I just didn't want this thread to turn into a sort of "Oh, I used to eat such a wonderful, carefree diet like a normal person and now I can't anymore because of my ED..."

Oh gosh - I didn't even think that might happen (!!) "Oh, I used to eat such a wonderful, carefree diet like a normal person and now I can't anymore because of my ED" I mean... I see it as "oh, look at these great things I used to eat, and yes! I can do that again, perhaps even improve on it! And nothing bad will happen!" Though i do understand completely if people didn't have a good diet before, either.

I didn't mean it as an attack at you (or an attack at anyone, really). I've just seen similar threads in the past develop this way. I was just challenging people to tackle their fears, that's all. But you seem to have a very healthy attitude. Keep up the good work. :)

Health & Support What did you eat pre-ED? Apr 14 2013
14:29 (UTC)
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Original Post by bellealyce:

I think what I'm getting at is that if you had a healthy relationship with food prior to your illness, that's great, but if not then maybe use recovery as a clean slate to find it. I know personally for me it's terrifying, and recovery is going to be a hard road, because that healthy relationship is something that I've never ever had. I've never stayed in the healthy weight range for a stable period of time really.

I know what you mean. I'm kind-of the same way. I had anxiety and body image issues even before my ED started, and my relationship with food was somewhat disordered even before it developed into an eating disorder. I have either been overweight or underweight for most of my teens and early twenties. So for me, it's a clean slate too, and I'm very grateful that I had a treatment team to help me define what 'healthy' and 'balanced' is. But that's why I didn't post what I used to eat pre-ED - what's the point, if it wasn't healthy? I was mainly speaking to people such as the OP who did have a healthy relationship with food. Don't just write it down and look back at it longing for things to be the same; use it as a goal. 

I completely understand that not everyone ate healthy or balanced diets pre-ED, and that some people had problems with overeating or being overweight. I just didn't want this thread to turn into a sort of "Oh, I used to eat such a wonderful, carefree diet like a normal person and now I can't anymore because of my ED..."

Health & Support will I stop constantly thinking about food? Apr 14 2013
13:26 (UTC)
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I agree - it's good to follow a mealplan, at least in the early stages of recovery when any decisions of food are stressful. Takes some of the stress off it, when you're simply following a plan recommended by a doctor. I'm not saying you should mealplan for the rest of your life, and it's something you'll gradually wean off of, but it's helpful in the early stages. 

Health & Support What did you eat pre-ED? Apr 14 2013
13:19 (UTC)
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Original Post by bellealyce:

Did everyone not read the topic headline, it says Pre ED- not pre anorexia, clearly some of those diets are very eating disordered aka borderline binging or don't show a healthy relationship with food. Which is what I can say for my diet having been overweight before slipping into 'chronic' anorexia.

I never assume that ED means just anorexia. However, the title states pre ED, so it assumes it's what you used to eat before your eating became disordered, whatever form that disorderedness took on. 

Obviously, this doesn't apply to everyone, since some people did not eat particularly healthy before their ED, myself included. But for the OP, she stated that she ate a perfectly healthy/reasonable diet pre-ED and was at a healthy weight. 

ETA- I guess what I'm saying is, the original post seems to assume that the people responding had a healthy relationship with food before their ED - at least that's how I interpreted it. After all, what's the point of making a list of what you used to eat before your eating disorder, if it was in fact disordered as well. 

Health & Support What did you eat pre-ED? Apr 14 2013
13:01 (UTC)
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Original Post by sophieviolet:

Well I actually DO eat the same or more than what I used to pre-ED. My tastes have changed a little, but I.. YEAH - if I felt like anything on that list, I'd EAT it, and feel way less guilty than before. (I ate what I liked then, but always thought I'd balloon anyway. Now I'm impressed by metabolisms every day!)

Happy to hear that. :) And yeah, I'm impressed with my metabolism too!

Health & Support . Apr 14 2013
00:58 (UTC)
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:( That sounds frustrating! Could you email your former treatment team and ask if they have any suggestions for a meal plan/goal weight? I know that you aren't seeing them anymore, but sometimes treatment centers will help answer questions that former patients might have about things like that. 

Health & Support everyone stares?.. Apr 14 2013
00:55 (UTC)
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Original Post by bellealyce:

One thing that made me contemplate and want to explore recovery was seeing my anorexia from an outside perspective- to me my anorexia was a way of becoming invisible and drawing less attention to myself, but my brother pointed out that it's the obvious- the world revolves around me. Family finances go into my medical expenses rather than holidays, meal times are so stressful and often hysterical and family conversations are always about my recovery. Your ED voice might tell you it's a way of hiding yourself but it puts you on show!

It's also very depressing. You see nothing but doom and gloom when you're deep in your eating disorder. You don't see the beauty in the rest of the world, at least I didn't. It was like, 'eh, if I die from this ED, whatever.' Now, I can't the world just looks different. The world is fuller: fuller of energy and life. Colors seem brighter, music seems more beautiful. It's a way of numbing out - but the consequence is that you have a very narrow, anxious, depressive view of the world. And often times, that world is (inadvertently) very self-centered. 

Health & Support . Apr 14 2013
00:04 (UTC)
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That sounds frustrating. I'm sorry you can't get better medical help. 

Maybe you could go back to the mealplan that you were on, before you got kicked out? Have you reached the initial goal weight that your specialist set for you? If not, I'd recommend getting back on that mealplan and following it at least until you reach that weight. 

Health & Support . Apr 13 2013
23:28 (UTC)
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Original Post by vanillastrawberryshake:

I'm just worried since I'm shorter that I'll get fatter faster since i recovered on a small amount of calories last year ( I didn't know about the 2,500-3,000 " rule " when I was underweight and I gained 10 pounds )

I don't really have as strong thoughts anymore. It comes and goes but its not ALWAYS on my mind.

I just don't want to become obese or overweight.

Of course you dont want to become overweight. Nobody does, and for recovering anorexics, it's often on the forefront of their mind. However, it's a fear that's very often blown out of proportion. 

I don't buy the magical 2500-3000 rule. It's different for everyone.Personally, I needed more than this in recovery. It depends on age, activity level, etc. This is why you should really find a doctor who can help provide you with a mealplan to follow. Is there a reason you're not seeing one?

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