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The Lounge angelina jolie has preventative double mastectomy May 17 2013
20:11 (UTC)
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Original Post by kathygator:

Original Post by amethystgirl:

a : open to question : debatable
b
: subjected to discussion : disputed

 

I learned this yesterday, so had to share.

Oh My GAWD.

so..."the value of continuing to discuss her responses, is moot..."

I guess??

Yeah, I don't know. The second definition is "deprived of practical significance : made abstract or purely academic" which fits how it is generally used. So I'm not sure how much stock to put in the, albeit technically correct, definition above.

Or we go with the Joey Tribiani version: "A moo point. It's like a cow's opinion.  It's moo."

The Lounge angelina jolie has preventative double mastectomy May 17 2013
20:06 (UTC)
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a : open to question : debatable
b
: subjected to discussion : disputed

Laughing

I learned this yesterday, so had to share.

The Lounge angelina jolie has preventative double mastectomy May 17 2013
19:49 (UTC)
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Original Post by chickey_soup:

Original Post by rosencrantz12:

I'm old, way past the need to breastfeed, and I'd want reconstructive surgery if I were to have a mastectomy. I don't love them, but I'd hate to do without.

i'd have it too.  i think it would be disconcerting to have had them so long and then just not.

i do love them for their storage abilities when i don't have pockets and need to stick something somewhere.

What the hell kind of breasts did you get??

The Lounge Zombie Threads - BRAAAIIINS May 17 2013
19:46 (UTC)
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Blame the zombie ghosts, but credit the mods for being so quick to delete spam that you don't even see it.

The Lounge angelina jolie has preventative double mastectomy May 17 2013
19:42 (UTC)
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Original Post by kathygator:

re 263: I'd have to bet that at one time it wasn't, and there was a battle fought in some courtroom somewhere over it. But that's just a guess.

I think that's what I was getting at, but didn't quite say - that it isn't covered because insurance thinks they should, but because someone somewhere forced them to do it.

The Lounge angelina jolie has preventative double mastectomy May 17 2013
19:35 (UTC)
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Original Post by nomoreexcuses:

Cakey, I personally think that whether breasts are essential or not is a matter of opinion and I can understand if someone thinks breasts are essential.

Isn't that why insurance covers reconstruction? And why we all think it should be covered?

This is interesting... no, I don't think that's why it is covered. I think it's covered because insurance could easily make the argument that reconstruction is not at all medically necessary, and therefore doesn't qualify for coverage.

We all* think it should be covered because we don't like the idea of women who have had to deal with the trauma of breast cancer and mastectomy to be forced to wear their operation on their sleeve for all to see if they can't afford reconstruction. We don't think it is right or fair.

*We all = people who think it should be covered. I don't know who thinks it shouldn't be covered, except maybe insurance companies, and I wouldn't want to speak for them.

Fitness gaining muscle? May 17 2013
19:23 (UTC)
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Well, exercising 3 times a day while eating 1400 (which probably wouldn't be enough if you were exercising once a day, or even every other day) is not a good idea. So that might be why you are feeling hungry.

You aren't gaining muscle by eating so few calories.  It's probably not fat either, but my guess is your metabolism is a little messed up due to your low intake relative to your activity level.

The Lounge angelina jolie has preventative double mastectomy May 17 2013
19:15 (UTC)
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Original Post by rain_bows:

Original Post by kathygator:

Ok. Starting from there, then, how about the question I asked you earlier?

What if she had written a piece about having experienced rape, or a battle with depression? Would you condemn her treatment choice, or condemn her for coming out about it?

I wasn't condemning her, I said on more than one occasion that she made the choice which she needed to make, just that is was not the road I would head down.

I really can't understand why me saying that has been viewed as me condemning the operations.

I can't answer your question above because I wouldn't read anything on those subjects, but in general I wouldn't agree with selling a story which would touch so many other people.

I don't like celebs ... any!

As has been mentioned before, an Op-Ed in the New York Times really shouldn't be considered as "selling a story". I highly doubt she was monetarily compensated, and if she was, it was a pittance. ETA: NYT's instructions on submitting an article for Op-Ed section make no reference to payment. Further googling suggests that some are paid $150, but at least in one place it suggests that politicians or political figures are not paid.

For future reference, this was where I saw you condemn her for writing the OpEd:

Original Post by rain_bows: I just don't see it that way at all.

I see it as her using her public stardom to gain an outpouring of approval and empathy from people to help her come to terms with the decision she has made.

I see it as trampling all over the feelings and tough choice many many women have had to make way before now, and at a much younger age, that suddenly because a STAR has made the same choice it somehow vindicates them, and that which they were perhaps made to feel not normal about should suddenly be OK because Angelina has done it.

It's kind of Patronizing!

The Lounge angelina jolie has preventative double mastectomy May 17 2013
19:11 (UTC)
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Original Post by nomoreexcuses:

I agree with you about what the common use of the word usually means, in North America.

The OED defines it as: inflict a violent and disfiguring injury on. I'm not quite sure we can break this down based on which side of the Atlantic we are on.

Fitness gaining muscle? May 17 2013
19:09 (UTC)
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You exercise 3x/day? Was that supposed to be 3x/week?

The Lounge Zombie Threads - BRAAAIIINS May 17 2013
18:55 (UTC)
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^ or that.

The Lounge Zombie Threads - BRAAAIIINS May 17 2013
18:36 (UTC)
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Original Post by mercurystar:

Original Post by amethystgirl:

Original Post by mercurystar:

That's just plain odd then, because I was neither searching, nor using the mobile app. I just browsed over to the forum using a plain ol' PC and there it was, sitting on the first page.

*shrug* The mysteries of life...*spooky music*

because it got bumped

How/by who? Because according to the date stamps, it got bumped by me. o_O

Probably by the spammer that was already modded - once bumped, the thread stays up, even if it no longer has a recent post.

Calorie Count What is the net calorie thing based on, when logging your daily food? May 17 2013
18:35 (UTC)
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Total eaten - total burn = net

The Lounge Zombie Threads - BRAAAIIINS May 17 2013
18:33 (UTC)
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Original Post by mercurystar:

That's just plain odd then, because I was neither searching, nor using the mobile app. I just browsed over to the forum using a plain ol' PC and there it was, sitting on the first page.

*shrug* The mysteries of life...*spooky music*

because it got bumped

The Lounge angelina jolie has preventative double mastectomy May 17 2013
18:31 (UTC)
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Nomo, I'm not taking offense. I'm just baffled. It doesn't compute. And I make a lot of allowances for a range of meanings - I haven't heard an explanation of 'mutilated' that is not negative.

But I also think that what Kathy said a little while back was right - sometimes people end up arguing themselves into a corner where they didn't mean to be.

The Lounge Zombie Threads - BRAAAIIINS May 17 2013
18:18 (UTC)
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It's the search function. It doesn't automatically give the most recent threads first, and I think the algorithm for determining relevance is lacking.

I can't imagine the time it would take to purge threads, since some are worth keeping and some aren't - it wouldn't be something you could do automatically. And what might be worthless to most might be worthwhile to some, so at most you'd only want to lock, not delete, threads.

I'd say just fixing the search would reduce the old threads from resurfacing. Spammers will still bump threads, however - if the last post on a thread is still really old, it means the mods already got to the spammer.

The Lounge angelina jolie has preventative double mastectomy May 17 2013
18:14 (UTC)
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Original Post by purespark:

There's something about Angelina Jolie that seems really triggering to some women.  Maybe it's that she has done so much good in other countries (which could be threatening to those who feel they haven't contributed enough to the greater global good), or maybe it's those fabulous pillow lips that most of us couldn't have without collagen injections.  I dunno.  She's very polarizing.  It doesn't surprise me that the responses are on extreme ends of the approval/disapproval spectrum.

I think it also might be her past - there was a while when she was a little wacky (I'm thinking of her making out with her brother at the oscars, tattooing Billy Bob's name on her and wearing a vial of his blood, and I'm sure some other things that I can't remember. And there was some period of time that I blamed her for stealing Brad Pitt away from Jennifer Aniston, admittedly with no real knowledge or stake in that).

The amazing stuff she does now is what redeems her for me from those wacky years.

The Lounge angelina jolie has preventative double mastectomy May 17 2013
18:01 (UTC)
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Original Post by chickey_soup:

Original Post by amethystgirl:

Original Post by theviewfromhere:

four years ago, before i got my (preventive) hysterectomy, i got a lot of support from the community here. nobody referred to what i was doing as "mutilation" (and believe me, that's an apt description of a 6" incision with 25 staples) and nobody suggested that it was motivated by anything other than the pursuit of health. when i ended up in hospital for six days instead of three, and couldn't get to the site to update all of you, people were concerned (yeah, tom, i remember that. thank you).

if i were a new member considering a preventive mastectomy right now, i doubt i'd be looking for support here. i'd probably be feeling pretty **** about the whole thing. i might even consider risking cancer rather than risking the kind of harsh judgments that have been expressed here.

sorry, but i don't think it's okay to denigrate somebody for making a difficult health decision.

And in fact, that I think (besides getting ahead of the celebrity gossip whirlwind) was Angelina's point in writing her OpEd - to make people understand the reasons that go into making such a difficult decision.

I'm baffled that someone would in one breath blame Angelina for trampling on the feeling of women who have already made the same choice as Angelina, and then in the second breath refer to it as mutilation.

i kept trying to type something along those lines several times but couldn't get it to come out right.

It took me a few tries too.

The Lounge angelina jolie has preventative double mastectomy May 17 2013
17:58 (UTC)
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Original Post by theviewfromhere:

four years ago, before i got my (preventive) hysterectomy, i got a lot of support from the community here. nobody referred to what i was doing as "mutilation" (and believe me, that's an apt description of a 6" incision with 25 staples) and nobody suggested that it was motivated by anything other than the pursuit of health. when i ended up in hospital for six days instead of three, and couldn't get to the site to update all of you, people were concerned (yeah, tom, i remember that. thank you).

if i were a new member considering a preventive mastectomy right now, i doubt i'd be looking for support here. i'd probably be feeling pretty **** about the whole thing. i might even consider risking cancer rather than risking the kind of harsh judgments that have been expressed here.

sorry, but i don't think it's okay to denigrate somebody for making a difficult health decision.

And in fact, that I think (besides getting ahead of the celebrity gossip whirlwind) was Angelina's point in writing her OpEd - to make people understand the reasons that go into making such a difficult decision.

I'm baffled that someone would in one breath accuse Angelina of trampling on the feelings of women who have already made the same choice as Angelina, and then in the second breath refer to it as mutilation.

Health & Support just curious -calories in ivs May 17 2013
17:08 (UTC)
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Guacamole is indeed delicious. I wouldn't worry too much.

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