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Calorie Count We just launched a brand new Food Logger! Dec 17 2010
15:00 (UTC)
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I do Love the new food logger! I love it. It is easier to use, and I for one really enjoy having the eat meter and burn meter right there on the food logger page! I think that is a helpful innovation that keeps me better on track as I log and plan my day. I don't understand the requests for the old home page at all...but we're all different!

While I can't make use of the "meal" feature, because I insist on more variety every day, I do appreciate the frequent foods and the drop down lists. You guys have done a fantastic job and I am so grateful for the site and the tiny but dedicated group that keeps us "millions" going.

Did I say Thank you! Thank you! a thousand times.

Games & Challenges FULL YEAR 2010 CHALLENGE OPEN TO NEWCOMERS AND THOSE CONTINUING THE SPRING TO FALL CHALLENGE OF 2009; Updated 8/18/10 Oct 13 2010
01:01 (UTC)
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Start wt: 1/1/2010: 267

CW: 10/11/2010: 254

GW: 12/31/2010: 240

Weight Loss no, you are NOT addicted. Oct 12 2010
00:13 (UTC)
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Original Post by meganr:

The cover story of a recent New Scientist magazine, the UK equivalent of Scientific American, discussed what they termed "Junkie Food".  In that article was a discussion of studies and findings asking this very question, i.e. whether food can be an addiction for certain individuals.  There seems to be some evidence of this. 
Also found some interesting articles and discussions at the web site for the Yale Rudd Center for Food Policy and Obesity, including a Food Addiction Scale.  One quote cited from a mention of a conference held there in 2007 from Nora Volkow, the director of the National Institute of Drug Abuse is especially interesting:  "It is important that we study the reasons that people behave in unhealthy ways even when they are aware of potentially devastating consequences,” Volkow said. “We believe we can learn a lot about obesity by looking at what we know about the science of drug addiction. In this meeting we will be discussing the commonalities in the brain’s reward mechanisms related to compulsive eating as well as drug use for non-medical reasons.”

As a formerly obese person I find these studies fascinating; they give me some insight into some of the possibilities for why it is so difficult for some of us to change our lives in such a way as to bring ourselves back to health.  I certainly don't understand how this type of science turns the obese into "victims" or lets anyone off the hook for working hard at finding the path to health. 

I haven't seen anyone specifically address, not to mention disagree, with the actual science posted by megan. Apparently experts (although not pgeorgian) believe it is "helpful" to talk about food addiction.

Another excellent point I want to (nod in agreement) emphasize is that using the science of addiction doesn't turn anyone into a victim.

I believe that nodding in agreement is in fact very helpful, and so is looking for constructive answers to the compelling and, for some, insurmountable problem of eating too much.

Like the OA poster, I think the spiritual discipline of Twelve Step recovery programs is also extremely helpful for this obese individual.

But as you say OP "whatevs"

Weight Loss no, you are NOT addicted. Oct 11 2010
21:32 (UTC)
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Original Post by pgeorgian:

Original Post by imayoyodieter_nomore:

I'm sorry PG, I did look at your pictures and it appeared that you have lost a significan't amount of weight in your 'running' picture.

not that significant actually. i was never very fat.

incidentally, 12-steppers (AA) would say that the reason you were able to quit booze on your own was that you were never a "true alcoholic." just one of the many reasons i don't like AA. it has no end of ways to blame the addict while pretending not to do just that.

Pgeorgian, neither you nor anyone else can speak for Alcoholics Anonymous. You may have heard a member of AA say this or that, but AA doesn't have a position on "why you were able to quit booze." AA doesn't blame anybody. In my experience, people who attack AA are closet alcoholics who are just afraid.

I think it's interesting that you have started this thread about how "you are not addicted" when you have no experience losing a lot of weight, no experience recovering from an addiction and no apparent compassion or understanding.

Still, it's a pretty lively discussion. If pointless.

Games & Challenges FULL YEAR 2010 CHALLENGE OPEN TO NEWCOMERS AND THOSE CONTINUING THE SPRING TO FALL CHALLENGE OF 2009; Updated 8/18/10 Oct 03 2010
16:51 (UTC)
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start weight 1/1/2010: 267

current weight 10/3/2010: 256

goal weight 12/31/2010: 240

Games & Challenges FULL YEAR 2010 CHALLENGE OPEN TO NEWCOMERS AND THOSE CONTINUING THE SPRING TO FALL CHALLENGE OF 2009; Updated 8/18/10 Sep 25 2010
20:15 (UTC)
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Well, I'm coming back...but I have to change all my numbers. That's okay. I can do this. We can all do this.

Start weight: 1/1/2010: 267

Current weight: 9/24/2010: 253 (yay for me!)

Goal weight: 12/31/2010: 240

Games & Challenges FULL YEAR 2010 CHALLENGE OPEN TO NEWCOMERS AND THOSE CONTINUING THE SPRING TO FALL CHALLENGE OF 2009; Updated 8/18/10 Jul 24 2009
15:51 (UTC)
451

SW: 240

CW: 244

GW: 232

going in the wrong direction! However, I have a new tool: Intuitive Eating. I am an unconscious eater (I don't think about the food while I am eating it--I just obsess about the food all the rest of the time). So I have a new approach: be present in the moment of eating: no reading, surfing, browsing, games. Going to be tough. May not always be successful. But it's a good direction for me I think. I sure hope so!

Games & Challenges FULL YEAR 2010 CHALLENGE OPEN TO NEWCOMERS AND THOSE CONTINUING THE SPRING TO FALL CHALLENGE OF 2009; Updated 8/18/10 Jul 21 2009
22:24 (UTC)
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SW: 240

CW: 242

GW: 232

going in the wrong direction! Pretty much lost control past week or so. Maybe getting better...

Games & Challenges ***July***Weight Loss Challenge--Sign Ups Always Welcome! Jul 21 2009
22:21 (UTC)
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Name: earth_mom
Age: 60
Height: 5'6"
Start Weight in July: 242.6
Goal Weight  (by July 31): 238.6

July 3: 242.6
July 10: 240.4
July 17: 242
July 24:
Final Weigh In – July 31:

Total weight loss: 0.6

Been having a hard time at work, eating badly.

Games & Challenges Roll Call July 2009 Exercise Challenge!!! Jul 21 2009
22:19 (UTC)
127

424/750

Doesn't look good for the goal, but I do keep moving.

Foods Food Tastes Survey! Jul 21 2009
14:32 (UTC)
146

Favorite breakfast: bacon, eggs, grits (butter, salt, pepper), toast & jam

Favorite fruit/veggie: blueberries, peaches/eggplant, beets, spinach

Favorite sweet: chocolate, dark or with nuts

Favorite source of protein: pork, beef steak, salmon steak

Favorite carb: chocolate cake w/ chocolate icing

Favorite fat: butter

Favorite "diet" food: n/a (water? brocolli?)

Favorite drink: champagne &/or water (coffee too)

Favorite overall food: chocolate cake

Food you hate most: artificial sweetener

Motivation REAL Emotional Eating: Do you do this? Is there a cure? Jul 18 2009
17:29 (UTC)
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There's physical cravings and mental compulsions--they are tough to deal with. I deprived myself for years just keeping stuff out of the house. My mother did the same. What happens when you open the floodgates? What happens when you or someone you love brings the "bad" food into the house?

I am going to add more meditation to my daily practices, and I am going to forgive myself no matter how much or how often I fail and give in to the cravings and compulsions. I'm going through a rough time now, and I'm reaching out, and I'm taking care of myself. I have logged every morsel, and I have jumped on the wii fit for my body tests too. I know what is happening.

Good luck with restricting, depriving and bingeing. I'm going to keep trying to live.

Games & Challenges Roll Call July 2009 Exercise Challenge!!! Jul 16 2009
16:44 (UTC)
196

337/750

Games & Challenges Roll Call July 2009 Exercise Challenge!!! Jul 15 2009
15:16 (UTC)
209

304/750

Foods Healthy Food Survey Jul 14 2009
15:36 (UTC)
150

I love surveys...love to think about, post about, read about food!!!

Cold cereal, oatmeal or museli?--oatmeal most of the time; cold cereal & fruit sometimes

Kale, collard greens or Swiss chard? yes, also mustard greens, turnip greens, bok choy, napa cabbage, spinach, endive, escarole...etc.

Soy milk, almond milk or oat milk? no

Favorite way to cook veggies? roast or grill

Favorite fruit for breakfast? blueberries or cantaloupe

Favorite fruit for snack? banana

Best way to eat carrots? Glazed

Whole grains are best in: bread, pasta or baked goods? bread

Favorite healthy dessert? oatmeal cookies or "wacky" chocolate cake

Favorite nut butter? Nutella (my downfall)

Luna Bars, LaraBars or Think Bars? n/a

Black beans, kidney beans or garbanzo beans? pinto beans and blackeye peas

Black, spice or green tea? herbal, ginger & lemon or peppermint

How do you take your tea? hot, plain

Local or organic from store? local

Favorite farmer's market item? n/a

Favorite combinations for trail mix? Bhuja Snacks!

Favorite dried fruit? prunes

Baked potato or baked yam? yam

Favorite way to eat dark chocolate? mass quantities

 

Foods Addicted to Nutella! Jul 13 2009
16:04 (UTC)
7

Oh my. My favorite way to eat Nutella is by the spoonful. I did eat 2 jars in one week...last night, tho', I held it to one spoon. Still, it's so good. I hope I can learn portion control...

Games & Challenges Roll Call July 2009 Exercise Challenge!!! Jul 13 2009
15:57 (UTC)
242

242 / 750

Games & Challenges FULL YEAR 2010 CHALLENGE OPEN TO NEWCOMERS AND THOSE CONTINUING THE SPRING TO FALL CHALLENGE OF 2009; Updated 8/18/10 Jul 13 2009
15:56 (UTC)
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CW: 240.4

gee, I'm almost back down to my starting weight...whee.

Games & Challenges ***July***Weight Loss Challenge--Sign Ups Always Welcome! Jul 13 2009
01:15 (UTC)
76

Name: earth_mom
Age: 60
Height: 5'6"
Start Weight in July: 242.6
Goal Weight  (by July 31): 238.6

July 3: 242.6
July 10: 240.4
July 17:
July 24:
Final Weigh In – July 31:

Total weight loss: 2.2 oooo!

Games & Challenges ***July***Weight Loss Challenge--Sign Ups Always Welcome! Jul 08 2009
22:08 (UTC)
113

Name: earth_mom
Age: 60
Height: 5'6"
Start Weight in July: 242.6
Goal Weight  (by July 31): 238.6

July 3: 242.6
July 10:
July 17:
July 24:
Final Weigh In – July 31:

Total weight loss:

Well, I'd like to think I can lose a pound a week...not likely...still I've been down to 238 a couple of times now...maybe this month it will stick!

EDIT: Navane, thank you for moderating the challenge. I was wondering if anyone would. It's quite a commitment. I appreciate your time.

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