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Calorie Count	Suggestion: Remove the "calorie output" statistic	Apr 22 2010 05:13 (UTC)	5
I don't think you people understood what I was saying. It's not "as accurate as you make it", because you don't easily have control over your energy expenditure and it absolutely can not be predicted to accuracy in an individual case with just a simple formula. I'm not saying people are reporting their activity inaccurately, I'm saying they're getting wrong numbers despite their accuracy because their RMR is being incorrectly calculated to begin with. @mischiefdm specifically: The "body adjusting" is precisely that: a drop in energy expenditure in response to lowered energy intake. Formulas do not reflect this. I have very much experience with plateaus and I will be the first to testify that calorie expenditure DRASTICALLY changes based on habits that are wholly unrelated to physical activity. I can come off of a plateau that was at 1600 cals/day and go straight into 2500 cals/day and gain absolutely no weight. Honestly, this is a site for layman weight loss. I think calorie count presents misleading information that gets people started in the right general direction but is in general not conducive to serious fat loss (because it's over-simplified). People put too much stock in this information and that's why practically every other thread in the weight loss forum is along the lines of "help me, it's not working!" This then perpetuates the myth that "I tried everything but couldn't lose all the weight", when people really have not tried everything or even understood what it is they're doing.
Weight Loss	Is a Treat Day Good or Bad?	Apr 21 2010 02:40 (UTC)	55
Good, but don't overdo it. Up the calories, but don't add it all in junk food. The goal of one of those days is to raise leptin levels; which will tell your body it's okay to keep burning fat. It might not help you, though, if you let yourself go.
Weight Loss	Can you really not build muscle while losing weight?	Feb 02 2010 02:38 (UTC)	16
No, you can not. And anyone who tells you you can has no idea what they're talking about. The common misconception is that because you can get stronger, you can build muscle while losing weight. That is not hypertrophy, though, it is the result of a better ability to recruit nerve connections and thus more efficient use of the muscle. You get better at the movement, you don't build muscle. Losing weight implies losing mass, and part of that mass is muscle. You can gain muscle while gaining minimal fat, or possibly even gain muscle while maintaining weight (and losing fat), but that requires a superb diet and exercise program. So again, the answer is no.
The Lounge	10 Words You Need to Stop Misspelling	Feb 01 2010 08:37 (UTC)	2
A few more I'd suggest... "than/then" If English is your native language, then it shouldn't be a problem. "breathe/breath" No, you can't breath. But maybe you can breathe. "could of/should of/would of" You should have looked it up.
The Lounge	Does anyone else hate Valentine's Day?	Feb 01 2010 08:23 (UTC)	20
My fat days made me far too asocial, and without a valentine it's something like any other day. Though the talk about it can be a bit depressing; almost makes me feel like I should at least try to meet someone before I shrivel up in however many years and lose my short window of fitness.
Weight Loss	Fat Bias: Why ISN'T it Majority Rule?	Nov 06 2009 11:18 (UTC)	12
Think of how the people on this forum act about super-skinny models. That's the mindset that's causing this, and a lot of people who think they're against it are actively doing it. There are all kinds of things we discriminate against in our daily lives. If a very unkempt person who didn't seem to have shaved or bathed or changed his clothes in months came up to you, would you accept him for his personality and not his outward state? What if they were wearing extremely tacky clothes? To a certain extent, it's something you can't fix. Because when it comes down to it, humans are judged by their appearance. I don't think there's a real answer to the "problem"; just that if you want admiration you have to work for it, I guess. And if you don't, that probably makes your life a lot easier.
Weight Loss	How is it possible to lose 8lbs in one week?	Oct 31 2009 01:37 (UTC)	1
People really ask this question too often I think. When you start on any weight loss program, you will lose a seemingly significant amount of weight in the first week. This is water weight, (Which is not only affected by your water intake, I should mention), and it's nothing to worry about. If you gain it back after a day of eating a lot, that is also nothing to worry about, because we're talking about temproary and not permanent weight fluctuations here.
Weight Loss	Do you think low carb diets work?	Oct 28 2009 06:00 (UTC)	4
Yes, they work, because they encourage a better hormonal profile for weight loss. There's less insulin in the blood stream, so fat can be burned primarily for fuel instead of carbs. Studies have consistently reflected the superiority of low carb, high protein diets over high carb, low fat diets in terms of weight loss, metabolism, and various health markers. A lot of people give low-carb diets undue and un-researched criticism. Anyone can say a diet is bad, but are they prepared to provide scientific evidence that supports their claims? They misunderstand the mechanisms behind fat loss and make the assumption that macronutrient ratios have no effect on it. However, macronutrient ratios are very important and do make a large difference on weight loss and its sustainability.
Weight Loss	Surgery to remove excess skin	Oct 26 2009 20:21 (UTC)	5
Original Post by cs2501: http://www.fitnesstrainingthewoodlands.com/ou rstaff.htm Miss Texas 1999, yeah, she can't build any muscle! :D Not while losing weight, she can't. @trhawley That's interesting, I lost just over 65 so far, and I've noticed a bit of loose skin in the abdominal region. Then again, that was while growing, and I was carrying those extra 70+ pounds as only a young teenager which maybe made it a bit more significant I guess. I'm sort of doubting my loose skin will immediately go away once I get to a lower bf%, but I'm not necessarily sure it will get worse either.
Weight Loss	Surgery to remove excess skin	Oct 26 2009 08:18 (UTC)	8
Original Post by cs2501: muscles are made of protein, not calories :) I'm working with a fitness trainer who graduated from Baylor school of health and fitness. I'm going to have to take their advice over yours. My main advice was to loose weight though muscel buidling activity rather than cardio and dieting. Look at the amount of junk food Michael Phelps eats while conditioning. I think it is much better to turn your body into a calorie burning machine than to practice calorie deprivation. Just so you know, protein breaks down into calories (energy), so yes, muscles are "made of calories". Muscles are also catabolized (broken down) for that energy, so if you don't have a sufficient alternative energy source through food (calorie surplus), you can not achieve a net gain in muscle mass. Your fitness trainer is one thing, but any researched expert in the field will tell you that you absolutely can not gain muscle while in a calorie deficit (Which you are in, because your weight is decreasing). Also, Michael Phelps is an ectomorph who does demanding physical exercise for many, many hours every day, and was never overweight to begin with.
Weight Loss	Surgery to remove excess skin	Oct 26 2009 06:25 (UTC)	10
Original Post by cs2501: 26yr old male here. I've gone down from 350 ish to 250ish. I haven't had any skin problems. I lost most of my weight thought weight training. The more muscle you have the more calories you burn just sitting around. The after burn of a weight workout is 48 hours as opposed to cardio which is about 30min to 1 hour. My Goal weight is 230 as my lean mass is measured at 220. I didn't / don't diet. I think most diets are unhealthy as their soul purpose is to deprive your body of enough nutrition so it has to start using fat. Most people try to diet it off and cardio it off, which actually eats protein, preventing muscle growth. It came off in about a year. I know lots of women are afraid of getting muscular, but lets face it.. once you have reached your goal weight you don't have to maintain your muscle mass and just eat sensibly to maintain your weight I've said this to people before and figure I should say it again, but losing weight when you have a very large amount to lose and when you are very close to your goal are two absolutely different experiences. When you still have ~30 or more lbs of fat to lose, the weight flies off comparatively. You have to buckle down a lot more once you get closer (20, 15, 10 pounds etc), or you simply will stop losing weight. Diets do not exist to deprive the body of nutrients, and I'm sure people typically see a great increase in their health if they diet reasonably. If you're still eating the same types of foods that got you to 350 pounds, your health is probably struggling a lot more than it would be if you were dieting. Make no mistake, if you're losing fat, you are in a calorie deficit and do not have sufficient caloric intake to gain muscle. You can gain strength by getting better at the movements, and your muscles will look bigger because there is less fat covering them, but it is certainly impossible for anyone but an absolute beginner to make any muscle gains while in a calorie deficit.
Weight Loss	180-lb. model’s nude photo rocks fashion world	Oct 25 2009 23:54 (UTC)	12
Original Post by kurichan: Most of that weight will be lost as soon as the woman gives birth, and the rest should be lost naturally as the body returns to normal after pregnancy. The only real weight that is put on is the 5-9 lbs of fat stores that ibez mentioned. Anything more than about 10 lbs of fat is excessive weight gain. Too many women nowadays use the "eating for two" excuse to gorge themselves while pregnant, and that's why they end up so much heavier after giving birth. And saying men shouldn't worry about pregnancy and women's health issues is rediculous. A lot of great doctors and scientists, if not most of them, are men. Yes, this is the point I was trying to make, though it seems I didn't phrase it as well. Thanks.
Weight Loss	180-lb. model’s nude photo rocks fashion world	Oct 25 2009 20:00 (UTC)	17
Original Post by ktkittyk: I'm sorry ibez... from your photos you don't really appear to be the proud owner of a uterus, or particularly knowledgeable about what a healthy pregnancy is, thus eliminating the necessity for you to share your "educated" opinions. I am a health science major and have taken many prenatal nutrition courses for premedical requirements and i respect your arguments...but not your facts. but...you look great and i really admire your progress! great work. I'm not making any deeply scientific argument about this here, just saying that even while pregnant, dietary choices are still relevant and very significant fat gains should not ideally be happening. Actually, I'm not sure how it even got into this topic in the first place. Original Post by missmoonlight: Next step: learn more about how the womenz work. I don't think that just being a woman itself causes large fat deposits during pregnancy, that's all. Original Post by nicolemurphy18: 'As that article says, one should not be putting on more than 5-9 lbs of fat while pregnant.' No where in this article does it mention the gaining of 'fat'. I'm not even sure how one can prevent this? You are a man, yes? Perhaps you should worry about the prostate and other male organs and leave pregnancy to the people that actually have to deal with said circumstances. It did a break down of weight gain during pregnancy. Included in the list was: "Fat stores for delivery and breastfeeding: 5-9 pounds" I can certainly have opinions on matters that don't directly affect me. Not only that, but I was not the one who brought up pregnancy to begin with, I simply responded..
Weight Loss	180-lb. model’s nude photo rocks fashion world	Oct 24 2009 22:41 (UTC)	23
Original Post by nicolemurphy18: Original Post by ibez: Original Post by missmoonlight: Fitness and looks, in most people's opinions, tend to be completely mutual. We are attracted to healthy mates. And simply from the health angle, that abdominal panniculus is certainly no good. And not only that, but the lifestyle that put it there. The lifestyle? many "in shape" and otherwise healthy women gain a panniculus simply from bearing children. I really don't understand why some people believe there's only one way for things to happen. And considering you don't know this model, I really don't know how you can be so sure as to knowing exactly how her body is the way it is (or was.) So "normal" is an acceptable word as well. Again, being "normal" is certainly no badge of honor. Clearly you've put yourself on a pedestal. What do you consider yourself? This thread wasn't about the model's weight loss or gain. And considering she's a model, she must have something her modeling contract adheres to, even if she's isn't a super-fit, non-mediocre size -0 model. Putting on 20, 30, 40 pounds etc. during pregnancy is still caused by poor lifestyle choices and can be easily avoided. There are not a lot of ways for someone to get overweight; in almost everyone, excess body fat is due to poor or misinformed health choices. I have not put myself on a pedestal and this is not about me, though I certainly do practice what I preach. And again, this is not so black and white. I am not saying that everyone should aspire to be size 0 and 100 lbs, that's hyperbole, and it really gets old. There is a middle ground here, and I've already said that. Though I've always found it curious how people on this site readily insult and deride skinny people while being lenient and open towards obesity. I think many here are every bit as judgmental and shallow as the "fashion magazines" they complain about. (And I have to stress with this once again before someone says it that I am NOT trying to say how this model should look as I don't care what people actually do with themselves; I am replying to the reaction and not the person it's directed at.) 'Putting on 20, 30, 40 pounds etc. during pregnancy is still caused by poor lifestyle choices and can be easily avoided.' Ibez, perhaps you should educate yourself about what a healthy pregnancy really is before making statements like this. http://www.webmd.com/baby/guide/healthy-weigh t-gain Obviously I was talking about pounds of fat and not temporary weight that leaves with the pregnancy. I do not consider temporary weight gain from sources other than fat to be classified as "putting on weight" in this sense, nor relevant to the question of ultimate body image and health. As that article says, one should not be putting on more than 5-9 lbs of fat while pregnant. Original Post by missmoonlight: You should still be eating well and some things should even be avoided, but everything needs to be balanced. A lot of people use the word to balanced to mean you shouldn't be too overly strict, but "balanced" means not lacking in any one area; junk food does not provide absolutely any health benefits over healthy meals, and there is no reason to include them aside from the psychological. I'm sure the cravings are there, but there's no reason to be consuming pints of ice cream or what have you.
Weight Loss	180-lb. model’s nude photo rocks fashion world	Oct 24 2009 10:20 (UTC)	26
Original Post by theychangedmyname: LOL read this Chic's journal ibez Back with a - vengeance? ? hehe says " I am dreading the bits of loose skin that are showing up in the lower abdomen, though..." Wow ibez show us pics of your pooch if you don't like hers as much, at least she gives up beautiful pics to gaze upon... where are your pics? Tjlo P.S. glad for all the appreciative comments & happy for those like me that see beauty in "flaw" or lack there of. LOL just fount this quote "The absence of flaw in beauty is itself a flaw" As I've said (And just restated ONCE AGAIN in my last post, as a disclaimer before someone inevitably posted this type of inane reply), I don't actually care how the model looks, I am responding to the attitude of being complacent in a sub-optimal state. That aside, my (insignificant) bit of loose skin is there due to a reduction in body fat, and not an increase in it. While I don't like having it, I certainly prefer it to the thick layer of fat that would otherwise be filling it. The difference is that I can't just work off my loose skin, but she could lose that weight. I am making progress, that's what is important and that's the distinction I am trying to make. And I judge people by their goals, and not their looks, as I have already said if anyone would read it. I think a 200 lb person who is eating healthy and exercising to improve themselves is much more respectable than a 120lb person who eats junk food all day. And really, what would you people all be saying if we were talking about pictures of an underweight fashion model who seemed confident? Not a soul would call her confidence "beautiful", people would be all over it, with all kinds of scornful comments (And it would probably be locked or deleted as "pro-anorexic"). On calorie count's forums, people seem to like to protect the sentiment that it's okay to be overweight but not at all okay to be underweight. In truth, both are unhealthy. But really, this discussion has gotten stupid. You just want pictures to gawk at. I uploaded one to my gallery, eat your heart out.
Weight Loss	180-lb. model’s nude photo rocks fashion world	Oct 24 2009 08:40 (UTC)	28
Original Post by missmoonlight: Fitness and looks, in most people's opinions, tend to be completely mutual. We are attracted to healthy mates. And simply from the health angle, that abdominal panniculus is certainly no good. And not only that, but the lifestyle that put it there. The lifestyle? many "in shape" and otherwise healthy women gain a panniculus simply from bearing children. I really don't understand why some people believe there's only one way for things to happen. And considering you don't know this model, I really don't know how you can be so sure as to knowing exactly how her body is the way it is (or was.) So "normal" is an acceptable word as well. Again, being "normal" is certainly no badge of honor. Clearly you've put yourself on a pedestal. What do you consider yourself? This thread wasn't about the model's weight loss or gain. And considering she's a model, she must have something her modeling contract adheres to, even if she's isn't a super-fit, non-mediocre size -0 model. Putting on 20, 30, 40 pounds etc. during pregnancy is still caused by poor lifestyle choices and can be easily avoided. There are not a lot of ways for someone to get overweight; in almost everyone, excess body fat is due to poor or misinformed health choices. I have not put myself on a pedestal and this is not about me, though I certainly do practice what I preach. And again, this is not so black and white. I am not saying that everyone should aspire to be size 0 and 100 lbs, that's hyperbole, and it really gets old. There is a middle ground here, and I've already said that. Though I've always found it curious how people on this site readily insult and deride skinny people while being lenient and open towards obesity. I think many here are every bit as judgmental and shallow as the "fashion magazines" they complain about. (And I have to stress with this once again before someone says it that I am NOT trying to say how this model should look as I don't care what people actually do with themselves; I am replying to the reaction and not the person it's directed at.)
Weight Loss	180-lb. model’s nude photo rocks fashion world	Oct 24 2009 06:20 (UTC)	33
Original Post by missmoonlight: (text) Fitness and looks, in most people's opinions, tend to be completely mutual. We are attracted to healthy mates. And simply from the health angle, that abdominal panniculus is certainly no good. And not only that, but the lifestyle that put it there. I don't go around calling people mediocre, but yes, I am saying that someone who is overweight and not trying to change it is being comfortable in their mediocrity. Which, again, does not bother me in the least; I just don't understand the positive reaction to it (Especially among people who are actively trying to improve themselves). Original Post by tinabobeena: I wouldn't call her "mediocre" perhaps the word "normal" would fit better. And that heinous screed on being mediocre makes me glad I don't know you, because it sounds a lot like you enjoy looking down on everybody else. Considering that most of us are here to make healthy changes to our lifestyles and many of us are striving for mediocre, I find your post to be offensive at best and callous at the very least. I would be happy if someone told me I had a "mediocre" figure at this point, as would many of us who read and write in these forums. Wiki defines mediocre as: "Ordinary: not extraordinary; not special, exceptional, or great; of medium quality". So "normal" is an acceptable word as well. Again, being "normal" is certainly no badge of honor. I use the word mediocre to indicate the lack of effort to change a sub-optimal condition. People here are actively trying to lose weight, so no, I would not classify that as "mediocre"; rather, I think it's commendable. I used to weigh 200 lbs as a 14 year-old kid, I know full well what it's like to be dissatisfied with your body. But I'm more interested in where people are headed than how far they've come. Stasis is the death of human satisfaction.
Weight Loss	180-lb. model’s nude photo rocks fashion world	Oct 23 2009 07:56 (UTC)	40
Original Post by foiegras: No, she isn't fat - (assuming the 180lbs, 5'11" is correct) she'd need to put on 6lbs before being classed as obese (120% of 'ideal' body weight). Is 25.2 OK for a BMI? What about her WHR (waist-hip ratio) - do we have her statistics? However, we can get a very close approximation of her body fat percentage, using the 1985 Garrow & Webster formula. She is 180.34cm tall and weighs 81.65kg, which gives (using the formula for women - see below): 26.54kg of fat body fat % 32.5 'normal' for women is 22-28%, according to UCLA, although the American Council on Exercise gives 25-31% as 'acceptable', 32-41% 'overweight', 42%+ 'obese', while Nutribase gives 22-25% 'normal', 25-29% 'above average', 29-35% 'overfat' and 35%+ 'obese'. Any way you look at it, she is overweight and has excess body fat. Fat (kg) = (0.713 W/H2- 9.74)H2 The order of magnitude of error for this formula is about the same as that for hydrostatic densitometry (the gold standard of body fat estimation). If you want to know more about this stuff, start here: http://www.cellinteractive.com/ucla/nutrition _101/phys_lect5.html Bodyfat is a great measure, but it has to be measured properly. Basing body fat on weight and height is no different than taking BMI - It does not take into account any of the individual factors at play. That means it is only accurate for the exact average person - the 50th percentile. A super-lean bodybuilder might be seen as obese with that criteria. There is absolutely no way that that formula is as accurate as hydrostatic testing, which isolates the weight of one's own bodyfat, in anyone but the aforementioned 50th percentile.
Weight Loss	How do you lose the salt/fiber bloat before an event?	Oct 23 2009 06:17 (UTC)	3
The bloat is not from salt/fiber, it is from carbs which are converted into glucose and stored in your muscles along with water. The way you can get rid of this is lower your carb intake for a day or two before the event you want. Replace it with healthy proteins and fats. When I'm eating lower carb, I am consistenly about 5 lbs lighter than when I'm eating normal carbs, and all of that 5 lbs comes from "the bloat".
Weight Loss	180-lb. model’s nude photo rocks fashion world	Oct 23 2009 06:11 (UTC)	42
I personally think excess abdominal fat is really unattractive, so I wouldn't call her "beautiful". Sure, maybe that makes her like the "average" woman. "Average" is plain, boring, under-achieving and accessible anywhere. It's not "average" to care enough about your appearance and health to actually do research and then work hard to achieve your goals. Average people enjoy average lives with average success stemming from average effort, and met with an average gracious helping of complaining. I don't want to be average. My stomach used to look like that, and I didn't like it, so I changed it. You know, you don't have to counter "anorexic" with "overweight". There is another option. It's called "fit", where you are nicely filled out with muscle and not a bunch of flab. It's also a much healthier thing to be encouraging. And who cares about BMI? BMI is a crock. Bodyfat % is a far more accurate indicator of health than BMI, and she clearly has some extra bodyfat to lose. And that doesn't bother me, she can be average if she wants to. I just personally don't understand why you would call mediocrity beautiful.

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