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Weight Loss Is this eating in the evening weight gain thing a myth? May 15 2014
18:09 (UTC)
Original Post by amethystgirl:

Did he say what would happen if you went to bed within 2-3 hours of eating? I'm imagining something to do with Gremlins.

Acid-reflux causing gremlins, duh!

Foods Low carb pasta May 15 2014
03:34 (UTC)

I just use spaghetti squash when I want a healthier "pasta." Or I just make my own pasta and say screw the carbs, this tastes good.

Fitness Squats with or without weights? May 15 2014
03:33 (UTC)

It should be heavy, but heavy is relative. For me squatting with 230 is heavy, but maybe for you heavy is 75. It doesn't matter where you start. What matters is you use proper form and add weight over time. Also, try doing hip thrusts and deadlifts too.

The Lounge Common Core = teaching pornography May 15 2014
03:25 (UTC)

If you don't want schools teaching your children porn, don't have kids or gauge out their eyes, so they can't read. Problem solved!

The Lounge can this be even remotely legal? Dec 15 2013
03:13 (UTC)

I've been on hiatus for a while, so I don't know how this discussion got so ratchet, so quickly, but i don't think it's that unusual for someone to get charged with a crime due to someone else's bullets.

Easy example: two goons break into a house of a man who own's a gun. He catches them, shoots at one, kills him and the other goon gets charged with felony murder because his choosing to commit a crime- going with his accomplice to rob the house, set of the chain of events that led to the accomplice's death. 

The same thing would happen if a cop shot at a kidnapper and accidentally killed the hostage.

I think there are a variety of issues with police procedure and culture in our country including but not limited to: militarizing them, poorly training them, selecting them racial profiling, and a general lack of accountability for their mistakes, but this legal premise for the indictment is not that odd.

Fitness Squats really work? Dec 15 2013
02:57 (UTC)

hip thrusts, kettle bell swings, one-legged rdls- work for me

The Lounge Most Under-Rated TV shows ever Oct 30 2013
15:12 (UTC)

The Oblongs.

The Lounge Should they be charged? Oct 21 2013
12:45 (UTC)
Original Post by Adi_:

Original Post by kevinatthebrook:

It looked to me like a good wind driven rain would have done the same thing in a relatively short (extremely short geologically speaking) time.

Had it not been filmed nobody would have noticed.

I'm not sure how they've been identified as Scout Leaders, what I saw of the video didn't indicate that.

Stupidity isn't specifically a crime.

I think the "anti-gay" stand the BSA has taken in the past is partly responsible for the OP's strong feelings on the issue.

No, I  don't think they should be prosecuted.

Maybe given a "National Park" time out.

I am willing to bet , these folk's all up for prosecuting the "criminal " would be all  for prosecuting the reserve authorities had there really been an incident as claimed in the video..

A sudden gust of wind topping over the boulder over and killing young child or a helpless old lady... then it would be a matter of sheer neglect in handling dangerous rocks ... where would the natural' beauty be then? No,it would not be socially acceptable to talk about the rock's and natural beauty when it involves the death of a child...

Wut. If a young child was too close to the rock formation- blame the parents. Why would a helpless old lady go out to the dessert? Stupid examples are stupid.

The Lounge Should they be charged? Oct 20 2013
17:00 (UTC)

I also think their position as Boy Scout leaders has little/nothing to do with it. There was that 15 year old Chinese boy who vandalized an ancient Egyptian temple, and he also got death threats, lots of 'em. As it turns out, people don't like it when jerks destroy artifacts, and just because the artifact will come to an end at some point, doesn't justify hastening the process. That's like saying murder shouldn't be a crime because everyone dies someday.

The Lounge Should they be charged? Oct 20 2013
16:58 (UTC)

lock 'em up. It's not okay to destroy things that aren't yours and if they don't know that at this age, then their parents failed them as children and they failed themselves as adults.

Fitness October 2013 Fitness Group -- All Are Welcome! Oct 19 2013
17:53 (UTC)

Yesterday's lift


  • broad jump 6x5
  • deadlift 5x5x195
  • reverse lunge 3x6x70lbs
  • pallof press 3x10x50lbsxside
Fitness October 2013 Fitness Group -- All Are Welcome! Oct 19 2013
17:53 (UTC)

Yesterday's lift


  • broad jump 6x5
  • deadlift 5x5x195
  • reverse lunge 3x6x70lbs
  • pallof press 3x10x50lbsxside
The Lounge If you just wanna see what you'd pay Oct 18 2013
18:08 (UTC)

I tried it, but it just told me I was eligible for medicaid, since my income is so low. I'm a student though, so I don't actually think I'm eligible for medicaid.

The Lounge Prosecuting bullies after suicides Oct 17 2013
13:02 (UTC)
Original Post by rain_bows:

Original Post by smashley23:
Where do you live such that a 12 year old is deemed to have the same capacity to understand right from wrong as an adult?

UK, I take it that you don't think a 12yr old knows right from wrong?

They may not be as aware of the full or possible consequence, but they do know it's wrong.

I often find that children are far smarter than adults give them credit for.

Wut! Did you not read what I said or are you playing dense? I didn't say that 12 year olds can't tell right from wrong; They do not have the same capacity to understand it as adults, which is why they don't face the same legal consequences for their actions as adults. Not being aware of the consequences of their actions is relevant. There's a reason 12 year olds aren't allowed to drive, drink, vote, buy houses, etc. We, for good reason, assume that their CAPACITY, is less than that of adults. Not 0, but clearly diminished compared to an adults. Even if they know something is wrong, if they are not fully capable of appreciated the consequences of their actions, then punishing them like an adult is illogical

The Lounge Prosecuting bullies after suicides Oct 16 2013
22:15 (UTC)
Original Post by rain_bows:

Original Post by lysistrata:

Original Post by nomoreexcuses:

But I'm not convinced that someone who harasses someone repeatedly over a period of months can fairly attribute ALL of that behavior to the adolescent tendency toward risk taking, impulsivity and poor judgment. Do you?

I'm not going to guess what causes it.  What I do know is that criminalizing it exacerbates it.

Could a judge order a harasser/stalker to not be allowed to use the internet in any way for a period of time?  Yes, in the context of a pending criminal charge or a criminal conviction.  Could they issue that order to the local internet providers?  No.  Or would that be something that probation officers would be able to enforce?  Most likely. Combined with a restraining order to stay away from the person being harassed, could that address the problem?  How are you envisioning the problem being addressed?  A restraining order criminalizes further contact, so if criminalizing the behavior is expected to act as a deterrent, then that's all you need.  If you're envisioning physically denying a person access to the internet, I don't see how that is realistic when libraries have internet and every other kid in school has a smart phone.


I would be interested to hear what legally you believe should be done with these kids?

I am having trouble understanding why you think their behaviour does not constitute them being criminalized?

Here the law states that a child of 12 knows right from wrong, just as adults, , so do you also then think that an adult guilty of the same behaviour should also not be a criminal?

Are you suggesting that resources are found to work with each and every 'bully' and their family to try and put it all right?

Do you not believe that the person who has been on the receiving end of this behaviour and their family deserve to see justice done?


I'm not picking at you, I'm interested to hear what you think should be done.

Where do you live such that a 12 year old is deemed to have the same capacity to understand right from wrong as an adult?

Fitness October 2013 Fitness Group -- All Are Welcome! Oct 16 2013
15:34 (UTC)


  • Incline Press (4x1x10s)x95lbs; (4x1x10s)x5x90lbs
  • Asst. Pullups (4x2x10s)x6
  • Dumbbell Bench 3x8x70lbs
  • Head-supported row 3x8x80lbs
  • cable backhand 3x12x20lbsxside
  • zottman curls 3x10x35lbs
The Lounge Prosecuting bullies after suicides Oct 16 2013
15:33 (UTC)

There's some line, where I don't know, between being a schoolyard bully and being guilty of harassment. One of the things i'm struggling with is where to draw the line and how do decide it has been crossed.

Is it once there's a suicide or a suicide attempt, it was harassment? Is it more about the specific behavior that the perpetrator did? How much of this should be handled by school/parents, and when is it time for law enforcement? 

Also, what type of regime should be used to make people accountable, civil/criminal? We could make parents strictly liable for the consequences of their children's actions, which would incentivize them to pay attention to what their kids are doing and push them to be better people. We could mandate anti-bullying education and have it offered every few years- and adjust it as the kids get older.

We could have more criminal sanctions, but this sounds about as effective to me as prosecuting underaged drinking- yeah some people get caught, but it's a marginal deterrent at best. 

Are we charging these kids because we think what they did rises to criminal harassment or is this retaliation for a suicide that we want to blame on them, when there were almost certainly other contributing factors? Just because it feels good to hold someone to the fire doesn't mean we should.  To me, if the same charges would have been considered if the victim were still alive, fine, but if this is just an attempt to circumvent the fact that a manslaughter conviction wouldn't hold up, I have a problem with that.


Fitness 1 Million Pounds Oct 15 2013
14:12 (UTC)

Keep it up!

Fitness 5th World Marathon Major Oct 15 2013
14:11 (UTC)


Fitness October 2013 Fitness Group -- All Are Welcome! Oct 14 2013
20:54 (UTC)


  • Front squats (4x1x10s)x6x105lbs
  • Step Ups 4x8x50lbsxside
  • Ab rollout 3x10
  • natural ghr 3x8
  • Pistol squat to box 2x10

Did most of MSP2W2D

  • bench 8x3x65lbs; 2x3x115lbs
  • cgpb 3x5x85lbs
  • chest supported row 3x5x60lbs