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| The Lounge | Going to the movies alone.. | Aug 23 2011 12:29 (UTC) |
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I don't usually like watching movies, can't bear sitting down for more than 30 min. Last spring vacation I went to the movies alone tho, I was feeling like crap, all my friends were out of town. So why not turn things around and have fun by myself? I decided to watch the most ridiculous movie (HOP, which turned out to be hilarious). The only others watching with me were a bunch of kids who, at the end of the movie, started dancing like crazy everywhere just like the bunnies and chicks on the screen. That really made my day ;D |
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| Foods | Boring Monday --- What's For Lunch!? | Aug 22 2011 22:37 (UTC) |
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I felt like cooking something I haven't had in a long time today! In a pan, I toasted a handful of shredded pita bread til it turned golden. Added around 4 handfuls of boiled chickpeas, and 2 handfuls of shredded chicken breast. In a bowl, I poured about a cup of full fat "Laban" (Not sure about this, but I think it's plain Greek yogurt that is watered-down...), mixed in salt, mint, garlic. Poured over the chickpeas, left it there for a minute to heat up. VERY yum. Used to have this all the time back in the days :) |
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| Foods | . | Aug 22 2011 11:11 (UTC) |
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I'll try that. I feel like having dessert pizza! So I'll make a soft crust using whole wheat flour, top it with pineapple chunks and sliced pears, strawberries, kiwi fruit, and apricots. Bake until the crust is golden, drizzle with melted (white) chocolate syrup. Those who read my posts might have noticed I've been craving nothing but pizza lately. Soy sauce, orange peel, quinoa? |
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| Health & Support | recovery and relapse pictures- check =/ | Aug 21 2011 22:31 (UTC) |
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The shoulders in one picture made me cringe so bad. Looking at them is painful. But what I came here to say is that in many of your posts, you've mentioned how ugly your face is, how you dread showing it. I said to myself "I'm sure it is not true, I'll wait and see". I was right. :) |
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| Health & Support | Recovery has worsened me | Aug 21 2011 19:34 (UTC) |
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You're definitely not a weird anorexic. Not very common, but still, not "weird", seen that anorexia is not about being "pretty" in the first place. I was also like that. Never hated my body, always ate healthier than other kids my age, but without even trying to, I respected my palate, I exercised because it's fun, but I still took days off and ate cake just because I wanted to. I was (and still am) more interested in literature, science, music,etc. more than clothes or beauty or weight ever will. I'm just too busy to care! Yet, I've had anorexia. I remember finally stepping on the scale, seeing 52 kg, seeing the bones in my chest pop through the skin, thinking "You look like a starving stray dog. EAT!" I couldn't. I then saw 49 kg, "EAT YOU FREAK!" Still couldn't. 35 kg "You're gonna die this way" Well I almost did. But THEN, I started noticing how some people are skinny, AND complaining about their "bellies" and "fat". THEN I started comparing myself, THEN I started feeling guilty about thinking I should be eating more than I already do. I never had a problem with weight, but my perfectionist and competitive personality had me push everything to the limit, I had to test how far I could go. These traits got thinking I had to lose more. Even if I knew very well I should not of. I'm also extremely surprised at how sometimes I'll tell myself I'm a "fat cow", unconsciously, without even being aware of it. I still try to make that voice shut up. It's still there, a bit loud sometimes, but it's calmer than it used to be. And that doc... reminded me of the first psychiatrist I met with. "So, meds can help ease off the anxiety you have around food. Eventhough I'm pretty sure you'd rather have appetite suppressants instead, I'm sure these could help you more." *Looks at me strangely* The same doc weighed me. I told him I was 42 kg. Well that's what MY scale at home reads. His scale read 44 kg. He thought I was lying to him at first, making myself seem skinnier and more "vulnerable". And he said "So, you weigh 2 more kg than you thought you did. Freaking out, kid?" "Not really..." He almost burst out laughing!!! Seriously, not everyone is obsessed with being skinny and pretty! Last one: "Do you use laxatives?" "Yes" "Stop it, they won't make you lose weight" "Eat more, then you'll be able to "go". I repeat, they DON'T make you lose weight, stop it." Oh really? Having a diploma hanging on your wall doesn't make you a professional. Nothing but an ape with a certificate! *Wow, the venting part is so great =D* |
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| Health & Support | silly motivation (ed recovery). | Aug 21 2011 18:56 (UTC) |
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Where's the "worship" button? This is weird, but the only experience I've had with gaming was playing the Sims (..obsessively) when I was a kid, and Command and Conquer. I sometimes dream in Sims and C&C. TMI, anyway... the coolest bunch of guys I know are gamers... so gaming IS very cool =D And it IS cool to compare recovering to new levels, weapons or powers. In fact, you are gaining new powers. The power to walk up a flight of stairs, the power to feel energized, the power to live... Pretty awesome skills, right? ;) Plus, it's nice to be with a group of other gamers, seeing them really enjoy their time can motivate you to get better, because you want to be part of the fun! As far as personal experience, the music world has inspired me to get better. It wasn't the reason behind my recovery, but it helped. I play the double bass, I'm the only girl in all the bass section, I started out at 14, the rest are 25 year old men, and older, who have jobs, friends, lives, some are even married with children. I sometimes felt very envious of them when we were all sitting together, they were able to laugh and have fun, while I wasn't! I used to be "one of the guys", but I wasn't anymore. On top of that, just being a 77 lb anorexic girl carrying a freaking DOUBLE BASS everywhere looks ridiculous. If I was the only girl bassist, might as well be a strong, healthy one, to give a good impression of the instrument! To me, my instrument is a human being, and I felt I made my poor, poor instrument "look pathetic" because "it had to hang out" with that weak, scrawny zombie girl. Now THAT is nerdy haha Band geek >:) |
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| Young Calorie Counters | young dancer in need of advice. | Aug 21 2011 18:19 (UTC) |
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Very clear signs of an Eating disorder... I'm so sorry you have to go through this, but for now you'll probably need to put a little more focus on your issues (And yes, get a therapist, it can help you make big progress if you cooperate well!) and a bit less on dancing. Why? Because you have mentioned you cannot enjoy your life. And you're 17! Major thing to be worried about! And, IMHO, that's the clearest sign that you should be dealing with this problem. This is all the advice I can offer. Get direct, professional help. It will benefit you more than anyone on this website can. Keep us updated on what steps you take, okay? ETA: Just to calm all of the disordered worries you are most probably having right now, like others have said, you need a LOT more calories than you're getting. Not only because you dance, but also because your body composition is mostly muscle, I don't know how you can keep it with such little calories. I once read this on CC, a long time ago... A member was on her way to becoming a professional dancer. The group she danced with met with a dietitian who works with the Bolshoi Ballet. She insisted they should be getting around 5000 calories because they want their dancers to be strong, not skinny! Now I'm not saying you also need 5000, but seriously, at LEAST double the amount you're currently eating. In fact, I'm 16, female, do a daily hour of cardio and have started strength training, sometimes I throw in some yoga, I'm rather active in general, BMI 20.5, maintain on 2700-3000. (And more if there's pizza, ahm...) |
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| Young Calorie Counters | Getting through the first week? Advice needed ! | Aug 21 2011 17:57 (UTC) |
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Woah there! Re-read your post. You suffer from EDNOS, and social anxiety. Forget about losing any weight for now, you need to get your disorders treated before doing anything else. You need to see a therapist! And, who knows, it might be your social anxiety leading to your ED. One thing can and will affect the other. You need to deal with these two issues before losing lbs and inches! Please, do get help, even if you think that losing weight will "cure" everything! Keep us updated, this is not easy to go through, and this is no game! |
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| Foods | Grrrr! Nutrition mistakes people make! | Aug 20 2011 21:21 (UTC) |
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I know what you mean, but I see people around me making the diet coke thing an excuse to allow themselves so much junk food on an *almost* daily basis. I wrote this one down because I know a woman who used to be obese, got lapband surgery, lost some weight, but doesn't want to make any extra effort to lose the rest, so she will eat take out every day and say it's alright since she's having diet coke... which makes no sense. She's unhealthy, has several deficiencies in vitamins and minerals, and still thinks it's okay to eat like that because the diet coke is like a golden ticket or something =S And she's not the only one who does that... |
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| Foods | Grrrr! Nutrition mistakes people make! | Aug 20 2011 13:31 (UTC) |
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-It says "low fat/calorie/diet". Must eat tons of it! -I heard this TV lady say Olive oil ids good for your heart. *Drowns food with oil* -Don't buy margarine. It'll go straight to your arteries. Have OO instead. *Drinks OO straight from the bottle* -There was a period when a group of people in my school ate loads of bananas because "they don't make you fat. I heard that other TV lady say they've only got like 60 calories? Or was that 6000? I don't remember. But you can eat as much as you want and won't gain weight". -"Hey, you want some strawberries?" "No, I'm on a diet you idiot!" -*Got blood works that said I was anemic, a loong time ago* Dad:You don't eat your beans, that's why! -Just don't eat bread, you'll lose weight. -I barely eat all day and I can't lose weight! *Drinks Starbucks crap* -Steak has protein. And OO is good.*deep fries steak in OO* -Someone asking me "How do you stay thin? You're a vegetarian right?" -Fruit juice is made out of fruit, fruit is healthy (This guy seriously drinks orange juice by the liter, and suffers from horrible sugar crashes) -"I'll have a double cheeseburger. And a diet coke"
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| Health & Support | What did you eat pre-ED? | Aug 19 2011 20:53 (UTC) |
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I'd eat something like this =] |
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| Foods | what is your favorite food group? | Aug 19 2011 20:01 (UTC) |
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Vegetables, followed by protein, followed by grains, then fruit, dairy, and the least favorite is fats. But this order always seems to change :D |
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| Foods | Food and non food survey!! | Aug 19 2011 13:56 (UTC) |
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Who thought I'd ever end a survey with "DIEEEEE"? |
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| The Lounge | Tricks For Staying Awake? | Aug 19 2011 13:28 (UTC) |
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Second or third time I see you promoting drug use to underage members haha!
I try to keep my eyes wide open for 5 seconds, close them real tight, open again, I don't feel sleepy anymore. Don't know if it'll work for everyone, but it does the trick for me. Don't know if it's useful since you're done waiting to get to the train anyway =| |
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| Weight Gain | How can I avoid my bones bruising my skin so much? | Aug 19 2011 13:19 (UTC) |
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Ouch, this bruising can really hurt. I used to wake up with new bruises on my back and sides of the hips, and in between the knees... even if I put a pillow between them. (TMI -->>) Two patches of hard, thick grey skin formed on each butt cheek where I used to sit in class... Even though I sat on two cushions! I used a crap load of pillows, cushions, layers of clothe and thick coats and jackets, moisturizing creams, oils, anything I could lay my hands on to protect me from bruising. It ONLY went away with eating and gaining weight. That's the best protection you can get! |
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| Health & Support | Advices to cope with weightgain and a healthy body. Please? So down atm.. | Aug 18 2011 22:28 (UTC) |
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It ain't sexy when it's naked and put up as your profile picture... Half belly, half man-boob. |
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| Weight Gain | Increased to 3000...now panicking!! | Aug 18 2011 19:54 (UTC) |
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The reasons why I gained so much weight so fast were because I was already at a BMI 11, and I'm naturally a BMI 21. I already had so much to gain. But in fact, that was NOT real weight, because like I mentioned, none of my friends believed I could have gained more than 10 lbs. Strangers were still staring at me in horror, asked if I needed help carrying grocery bags and stuff. On the scale, my weight skyrocketed, but in appearance, it came on... slowly! Point is, you WON'T gain 50 lbs if your body doesn't need to in the first place. So you have nothing to be afraid of! To comment on the rest of your post, you probably will be surprised at how fast your metabolism is, because I noticed that most of us suffering from EDs GREATLY underestimate how fast they are. Or how fast ANY human's metabolism could be. Most teens I know who do not work out and enjoy healthy and junk food equally never eat less than 2500. They'll consume 3000 on average. Yes, BOTH genders. Grown men I know don't consume less than 4000. They're all healthy and maintaining, and have no idea what a calorie is! (They're too busy enjoying their food ;P). Heck, even I was surprised when I once tallied up what I'd consume pre-ED. 2700 on a school day, up to 3500 on weekends! I was younger than 13 and maintained my weight. AND I don't have a monster metabolism. So just imagine what your body is capable of doing, and how much it needs to function well =) (ETA: Not going to the gym won't effect how your weigh is distributed and what you'll look like. I only incorporated very light yoga around the time I had stopped gaining on 2500+, and I can sincerely say that not exercising did not make me look "flappy" or unfit.) |
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| Weight Gain | Increased to 3000...now panicking!! | Aug 18 2011 11:39 (UTC) |
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Congrats for breaking the "3000 barrier" :) I know how scary it can be, but with time, you'll see this is such a normal amount of food! In fact, I wouldn't mind going OVER 3000 if I were a 24 y.o guy. Think of it this way: the more the calories, the greater you're pushing your metabolism so it can regulate itself later and to make sure it's not suppressed, the more fixing you let your body do on a cellular level, not just having a number on a scale increase! AND... most men I know eat more than 3000 and maintain anyway!! So why shouldn't you be eating more to gain, right? Having your weight increase 5 lbs in 5 days is normal. It's good, and I know you're cringing reading this but it's true! In my first month of "recovery" I barely increased to 1500 calories. I didn't gain, in fact, I lost weight. But then I really started going over 3000, and gained 30 lbs in 1 month. Scary. But seriously, NO ONE believed I gained more than 10 lbs. Next month, gained 10, same the third following month. That's 50 lbs in 3 months. I was weight restored, but still eating 3000. The weight gain STOPPED. Really, it just stops once your body get to where it's comfy at. Oh and, I'm a 16 year old female, maintaining on 3000. There's a lot of debate if a person's metabolism is faster after recovering from an ED because of going on a high-calorie diet. I don't believe in this. I think a person's metabolism depends on their age, gender, activity level, and most importantly, their genes. If you eat more calories, it only means there's more that can go to repairing your body, not just gaining weight. BUT, when you eat more calories, you're making sure your metabolism is not being suppressed, you're giving it a chance to fire up so it can return to where it used to be pre-ED, like the way you were born with it. Metabolisms need a LOT of fixing, and more calories=more fixing, faster. That being said, I believe that people's metabolisms, in GENERAL, are way faster than we think they are! No one I know maintains on 2000 calories. Forget about maintaining on 2000 calories, that's too little; no real, healthy, ED-free person eats so little. ANYONE can eat more and not gain. Anyway, good luck with recovery!
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| Health & Support | Is it coming..? who experienced this...? | Aug 18 2011 11:10 (UTC) |
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Okay, first it's good to hear you're still on track, francateresa! :) Now all those cramps (If you feel them in your uterus and lower abdomen, not just intestines and stomach), libido, bitchiness (lol)... Sounds like PMS to me ;) Personally, I had cramps and mood swings twice before I got my first period after the ED. Cramps but no period the first month for a couple days, they went away, came back one month later, but still no period, went away, and exactly one month later I had gotten my first cycle. But that is just my body, everyone is different. I didn't have any cravings, in fact my appetite decreased. But it always does before my period. So if you usually feel hungrier before a period, it might be it! Just listen to your body, what it tells you to eat, and give it what it wants. There's no logical reason for you not to get your period, even if you're 33. Good luck :) |
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