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The Lounge Honey and antibiotics Sep 06 2014
11:10 (UTC)
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Original Post by catwalker:

Macoooo,

Thanks for actually engaging in a conversation. I wish you would do more of this instead of just copy and paste.

Yeah no.

http://www.chevyequinoxforum.com/f18/honey-an tibiotics-1201/

http://forum.blackhairmedia.com/honey-and-ant ibioticshttps-wwwyoutubecom-watc_topic374260_ post11000756.html

The Lounge so joan rivers died. Sep 04 2014
21:26 (UTC)
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I love this woman and I will miss her very much. She truly was a trailblazer for women in comedy. Her offensiveness was her trademark and she built a hell of a career on it. Funniest woman in stand up ever.

*cries*

The Lounge Michael Brown death discussion Sep 04 2014
17:32 (UTC)
144
Original Post by catwalker:

Original Post by watergirl:

Original Post by theviewfromhere:

that's great. it really is. just saying "hi" or "good morning" can go a long way. just letting people know that they're not invisible and that their presence--positive or negative--is noticed can make a big difference.

It really does... and the occasional look of surprise that you catch as it flits across the face is PRICELESS.

I was waiting on an alignment at an auto shop last week and started chatting up this black guy sitting there who I would guess was in his early 40s. The shop owner asked him something about the pizza place he worked at, my daughter works in pizza... so that was my lead-in.

We talked for quite a while (like 45 minutes?) about all kinds of things, he even asked my thoughts regarding a family situation involving his niece hitting him up for money to pay her rent because she was getting evicted after she blew her rent money on a big birthday party for her kid and if his telling her NO seemed an appropriate response. Anyways, we both enjoyed the connect. :)

The look of surprise is also often accompanied by a look of gratitude. I received both last night. The area I live in is 2 mid-sized cities with borders touching and several small towns with borders touching either of cities. The 2 cities have a fairly large poverty problem that began with an exodus of middle class to the towns and was greatly exacerbated by the loss of manufacturing in the area. I live in one of the "yuppie" towns, mostly white. The shopping is in one of the cities.

I was at Aldi's last night and came around the corner with my cart rather quickly. I almost ran into a cart pushed by a very tall youngish black man. As I looked up and into his face, I smiled, looked him in the eye and apologized to him for hurrying and not paying attention. He could see I wasn't one bit frightened of him. The look of pure surprise at my kindness, smile and apology, was followed by a look of relief that morphed into gratitude. He smiled back at me and replied every so gently and kindly to my apology. As I got to the checkout lane I purposely got behind him and had a small conversation with him as we waited in line.

As I was headed out to my car the full implication of what had transpired was bittersweet for me. Here were 2  people of opposite cultures treating each other with kindness, and yet, one of those people was surprised to be treated with kindness. I thought of this thread.

Exactly. The reaching out is totally on us.

The Lounge Michael Brown death discussion Sep 04 2014
17:27 (UTC)
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Original Post by rosencrantz12:

This talk of connecting with a person of colour is weird to me.

My son's best friend is a black girl--they went to grad together and have promised me they will marry if they are both single at 30. Her mom and I have been plotting since they were in ninth grade. Currently, he's dating a First Nations girl. Most of his friends at school are brown or black.

Two of my daughter's friends are black, one of her best friends is First Nations, the other is white. There is a smattering of brown boys and girls in her circle of friends.

If a bunch of rednecks can do it, why can't all you urban smarty-pants figure it out? 

 

eta: They all talk about the stereotypes that go with their skin colour, but nobody really seems to care what colour they are. Underneath, they're all a bunch of fine small town kids who care about the world they live in.

Rosie, it does feels awkward detailing skin color as a qualifier in the discussion. I raised my kids in a small town environ that sounds very similar to what you describe. Education isn't all about books and the best schools... diversity matters. What cracked me up was the high school girl group photos with white brown and black faces and every last one them with straightened hair. LOL

I run across racism frequently. My dad is racist. My mom turned me on to Soul Train. It really is about teaching our kids better, one generation at a time.

The Lounge Michael Brown death discussion Sep 04 2014
16:30 (UTC)
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Original Post by theviewfromhere:

that's great. it really is. just saying "hi" or "good morning" can go a long way. just letting people know that they're not invisible and that their presence--positive or negative--is noticed can make a big difference.

It really does... and the occasional look of surprise that you catch as it flits across the face is PRICELESS.

I was waiting on an alignment at an auto shop last week and started chatting up this black guy sitting there who I would guess was in his early 40s. The shop owner asked him something about the pizza place he worked at, my daughter works in pizza... so that was my lead-in.

We talked for quite a while (like 45 minutes?) about all kinds of things, he even asked my thoughts regarding a family situation involving his niece hitting him up for money to pay her rent because she was getting evicted after she blew her rent money on a big birthday party for her kid and if his telling her NO seemed an appropriate response. Anyways, we both enjoyed the connect. :)

The Lounge Michael Brown death discussion Sep 04 2014
12:45 (UTC)
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Original Post by amwick:

Original Post by watergirl:

In my opinion, his record has absolutely no bearing on the shooting incident, but it could certainly throw another powder keg into the fire.

.   In a legal sense you are right. There is even debate about whether the video robbery on tape would be used in an actual trial, if a true bill is handed down.  I think there seems to be some obfuscation with the legal jargon about felonies and the way juvenile crime is processed, basically,  it doesn't mean much.    But you cannot deny the interest in MB's history, whether or not it plays a part in the due process that is going on right now.  Powder keg absolutely. 

 

 

 

Agree. Here is the Family Court Guide from the St. Louis County Family Court. pages 14 and 15 briefly summarize how the system works.

The Lounge Michael Brown death discussion Sep 04 2014
10:53 (UTC)
172
Original Post by amwick:

The whole grand jury process has been an eye opener.  I wonder if it is too late for McCulloch  to recuse himself.  It doesn't seem like he is going to cave..

I do not believe anything was made public other than a summary statement by a court official  at a hearing on whether his juvenile records should be released.  It was carefully worded to be sure.


His record, if it exists and whatever it  may or may not show, is basically still closed

 

I don't think he will recuse himself either. I think the governor should have replaced him, primarily because of McCulloch's fathers death and his extended family's entrenchment in local law enforcement. If McCulloch was a potential juror undergoing voir dire, this in and of itself would be a huge issue. In the interest of impartiality, I find this to be a fail on Nixon's part. He got so much flak over his previous comments that I suspect he is only focusing on damage control. 

 

The statement about Brown's record was carefully worded. No Class A or B felony convictions. Class C currently undisclosed, but could be disclosed. If I were Siwak, I'd definitely take the time to ponder all of the ramifications of the decision. I call no foul there. 

 

So what could be potentially missing?

Examples of Class C felonies include involuntary manslaughter, stealing (valued $500-$25000) and second degree assault.

Second degree assault: A person commits the crime of assault in the second degree if he:

  • Attempts to kill or knowingly causes or attempts to cause serious physical injury to another person under the influence of sudden passion arising out of adequate cause; or
  • Attempts to cause or knowingly causes physical injury to another person by means of a deadly weapon or dangerous instrument; or
  • Recklessly causes serious physical injury to another person; or
  • While in an intoxicated condition or under the influence of controlled substances or drugs, operates a motor vehicle in this state and, when so operating, acts with criminal negligence to cause physical injury to any other person than himself; or
  • Recklessly causes physical injury to another person by means of discharge of a firearm.

 

If I am reading correctly, and if Brown got adjudication for more than one Class C felony, than the Class C felonies would also have been disclosed. (?)

In my opinion, his record has absolutely no bearing on the shooting incident, but it could certainly throw another powder keg into the fire.

The Lounge Michael Brown death discussion Sep 04 2014
01:35 (UTC)
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Lots of developments today:

State of emergency lifted, which ends prosecutor McCulloch's replacement window. So no changes to the grand jury. 

MB's juvie record released and shows no class A or B felony convictions, and class C is only public if there are two previous adjudications. Judge Siwak could open more records to public if she chooses to. 

DOJ intends to investigate FPD

*snip* In the past five years, the department has launched 20 investigations of police departments nationwide — more than twice as many as were opened in the preceding five years.

The Lounge Michael Brown death discussion Sep 03 2014
23:19 (UTC)
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Original Post by catwalker:

Original Post by pavlovcat:

I only had time to take two, the Asian one and the black on.  No surprises.  Slight preference for European American vs. Black Americans and no preference between EA and Asian.

I have a strong dislike for urban black American culture, so expected to show a preference. I wonder if the results of the test would've been different if the test had not been about black Americans but about black foreigners.  I have no negative feelings at all that I'm aware of about black culture in other countries.

I worked with quite a few African men when I worked in the restaurant industry back in the 80's. They were uber polite and had the most beautiful voices and spoke perfect English. Most of them thought women were beneath them and hated to be trained by a woman of any color. I had never seen such outright prejudice towards women before. I still have not experienced any kind of prejudice towards me as a woman that even comes close to that experience since then.

I don't remember the exact countries these guys came from, it was a variety. They were all college students working part time while doing their studies. Most of them were very intelligent as well, but women were beneath them.

When I was working a pipeline job a few years back, there was one Latino guy who had it out for me. I was pretty involved/visible, and this guy liked to run his backhoe very close to me when I was on the edge of the 12 ft deep trench inspecting the fresh cuts. It got to a point where I had to say something to the operations chief. Never saw that guy again. At the time, I was working alongside a female biologist who said she had had it roughest working with black men in the south. Said the disrespect towards her was the worst she had ever seen. She noticed that the more aggressive she was, the more things improved, but only marginally. Typically, being a woman on a dominantly male work site can be a big advantage, but clearly that is not always the case.

I have definitely worked with more Latino men, ranging from blue collar to PhDs, than with black men, also blue collar to PhD, and never had any issues except that one guy. I think being able to engage one on one makes a huge difference, which is not always possible with my somewhat limited Spanish. I have found that initiating a show of respect to those who don't expect it from you goes a long way, especially in a working environment.

The Lounge Michael Brown death discussion Sep 03 2014
10:59 (UTC)
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Original Post by theviewfromhere:

Original Post by watergirl:

I hear you. Not all of us are wired to seek the intellectual tear-down of the systemic problems in our culture. I don't have a fix for poverty. All I know is I fought tooth and nail day in and day out to rise above it. It ain't easy.

Cheers. *clink*

can't fix what you don't acknowledge, and as long as poverty is treated as an individual problem rather than a systemic problem, there's nothing to fix anyway. right?

Actually, you got it backwards. All the better to preface your impending rant, i am sure.

I acknowledge what I can't fix. That's where we differ. 

The Lounge Michael Brown death discussion Sep 03 2014
01:27 (UTC)
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Original Post by amwick:

I am discussing a particular event, and its ramifications.. I am not arrogant enough to speak for everyone else..

"Michael Brown death by cop"

"I'm really surprised no one has started a thread about it."

So excuse me if I try and stay on the topic.. even though at the beginning I was kind of dismayed by the very title of this thread.. but I let it go .. I know that I am thinned skinned and that the title was not meant to convey any particular sentiment.

I hear you. Not all of us are wired to seek the intellectual tear-down of the systemic problems in our culture. I don't have a fix for poverty. All I know is I fought tooth and nail day in and day out to rise above it. It ain't easy.

Cheers. *clink*

The Lounge Firefighters rescue mountain lion cubs Sep 03 2014
01:08 (UTC)
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Cool and thank you.

One time I saw a mountain lion running all out across the road in front of me about 630 am south of Shafter, Tx on the way to the border. I was heading down there to collect water samples. That was a beautiful moment and I will never forget it. Good thing I didn't blink, or I would have missed it.

The Lounge Michael Brown death discussion Sep 03 2014
00:33 (UTC)
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Original Post by rosencrantz12:

Maybe you should look at the BBC news or (gasp!) the CBC.

Wow, I missed a lot today... this post should land just in just the right place though.

For the record, I really like BBC news. I get so tired of the American spin...and there is always spin. 

Austin has similar issues, so the Ferguson stats aren't particularly shocking, which isn't to say they aren't alarming in and of themselves. I have issues with APD for this reason, but I don't see a fix coming down the  pike anytime soon, even after the DOJ made recommendations.

What is the solution beyond raising our kids as non-racists? Build a new generation. That is DEFINITELY step 1.

Get more white people listen to rap music? Not just the mainstream **** but the underground scene. The culture of the historically downtrodden is so obvious if you just listen. Look beyond the boasting about money, cars and women and listen to wtf these men are really saying. There is a message here, if you are open to it. So, cultural diversity training would be step 2.

Next? Split the judicial, penal and enforcement systems up by color? Give brown, white and black each one of the above? Make profiling more fair? Yeah no. I really don't know what's next, I'm no John Lennon. Not sure there is a reality-based fix here. You tell me. 

The Lounge Michael Brown death discussion Sep 02 2014
18:44 (UTC)
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Original Post by catwalker:

Original Post by watergirl:

Original Post by catwalker:

Back in my youth I used to wear a button that said "Question Authority". It was greeted with either approval and hell yeah or it was greeted with disapproval and disdain as if I should just accept authority.

Authority does need to be questioned.

In my mind, MSM bias and accuracy would fall under the umbrella of "authority."

I question whether you are questioning her questioning or simply disapproving wholeheartedly.

What is this supposed to mean? If this is in relation to asking why Amwick would use the exact same post to post 2 differing items, then I don't get it.

If this is your best attempt to get under my skin, you better try harder.

It seems to me that she is uncertain what to believes thus she is questioning the media source also. Questioning MSM seems analogous to questioning authority, in my mind. It reminded me of your previous post. Questioning is good, right?

You aren't actually on my agenda.

The Lounge Michael Brown death discussion Sep 02 2014
14:50 (UTC)
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Original Post by catwalker:

Back in my youth I used to wear a button that said "Question Authority". It was greeted with either approval and hell yeah or it was greeted with disapproval and disdain as if I should just accept authority.

Authority does need to be questioned.

In my mind, MSM bias and accuracy would fall under the umbrella of "authority."

I question whether you are questioning her questioning or simply disapproving wholeheartedly.

 

The Lounge They say we're young and we don't CHAT Sep 02 2014
14:08 (UTC)
107
Original Post by cellulitedelight:

Her daycare is amazing and keeps her medicine in her room and notifies me when she needs to use it.  The teachers were trained by me how to recognize her attack and use her inhaler, and help her use her inhaler.  She's pretty good at it by now.  But she's very much the type where an inhaler isn't helpful unless you can predict when she's going to have an attack.

Once the attack starts, it's nebulizer or nothin'. 

Maybe we can move to a different state with an amazing school system for severe asthmatics with overprotective parents.  That would work.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2013/11/13/pre sident-obama-signs-new-epipen-law-protect-chi ldren-asthma-and-severe-allergies-an

Can she use an Epipen?

The Lounge Honey and antibiotics Sep 01 2014
13:57 (UTC)
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Thanks for the thread, macoooo.

Any beekeepers here? I am interested in getting started. There is a society meeting, a tour of hives, and a beekeeping 101 class in October. 

Austin Area Beekeepers Association

I used to have a surveyor for a roommate, and he was always bringing home snakes and assorted critters he found. Once he brought home a honeybee hive and I loved having those bees around most of all. 

 

 

The Lounge Michael Brown death discussion Aug 31 2014
15:17 (UTC)
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Wicky, have you ever checked out websleuths.com? They are on their 14th MB thread.

I used to follow that sight a lot (mostly cases involving children, like the Caylee Anthony case). These folks are dedicated to finding and pouring over all the minutia, leaving no stone unturned. 

Anyways, lots to wade through, but a great forum. I think you might enjoy it. 

The Lounge Buffer Zones Aug 30 2014
13:53 (UTC)
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Federal judge throws out key Texas abortion restriction

WIN!!

 

Political Sidebar:

*snip*

Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott, a Republican who is the favorite to become governor next year, vowed to seek an immediate appeal to try to preserve the new clinic rules.

***

Opposition to the Texas law was so visible that Democrat Wendy Davis launched her campaign for governor behind the celebrity she achieved through a nearly 13-hour filibuster last summer that temporarily blocked the bill in the state Senate.

Her opponent in November is Abbott.

Today's ruling is a victory for women's health care-& a defeat for Greg Abbott who would ban abortion even in cases of rape and incest. -Wendy Davis

The Lounge In my Chat I'm going to Carolina Aug 29 2014
11:38 (UTC)
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I like that javajig. Less going to the landfill. :)

First errand today is to get an alignment. Shop opens at 7 and I like being first. Later, chatpeeps.

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