red meat vs. chicken???

I recently started to see trainers to provide me with a meal and workout plan for every day of the week for 2 weeks; then my plan will change based on my progress. I was pretty surprised to see that there was no chicken breast on my meal plan, but to have lean ground beef/steak/fish ... i can undestand the fish, but a surplus of steak seems odd to me. I am getting protein from egg whites, cottage chz, shakes, etc..... but can anyone explain to me why my plan includes so much red meat and ZERO chicken. 

I will provide some info about myself, so it might shed some light on my trainers motivation: I am a 23 year old Female, active, 5'4" 127 lbs. I am seeing the trainers for 2 reasons: 1) I Put on some weight and slacked off big time in the past three months due to extreme stress. So now i am trying to get motivated and get back on track and lose the weight i put on. 2) Likely going to train for a competition once i am back on track.

Thanks guys!!

I have no idea.  Maybe the iron in the red meat?  I thought it might be protein, but it looks like 86g of chicken and steak have about the same amt of protein (about 26g).  I would ask your trainer.  It could be just an old trainer mindset of red meat = protein and not thinking about chicken?  But then I'd be worried about your trainer and what info they are using to help you.

Original Post by complete10lbs:

but can anyone explain to me why my plan includes so much red meat and ZERO chicken. 

Hopefully, the guy/girl you paid to write you the plan can answer that question a lot better than random people on the internet.

There has also been some new studies that show if women include more red meat in their diet they lose more weight.  Not exactly sure why but I certainly wouldn't argue with someone telling me to eat more steak!!! mmmm.....steak

Hmmm... Strange: i could have sworn that internet forums were for talking to random people on the internet.

Anyways, i had posted that while waiting for a reply from my trainer. She is young and very sucessful at her job. She explained to me that a lot of the girls get sick of eating chicken every day, and that because my diet was lacking fatty foods that i would recieve good fats from the red meat and fish. She also said that i could eat chicken, but to include almonds to substitute for the fat in the other meat.

Thanks for your input and help guys!!

chicken breat is the ultimate protein BUT  red meat has many other positives than chicken.  red meat better if organic has dha(omega 3) and cla both fatty acids that actually help you lose weight along with jont pain etc, it also has plenty of iron.

Original Post by keepliftin66:

chicken breat is the ultimate protein BUT  red meat has many other positives than chicken.  red meat better if organic has dha(omega 3) and cla both fatty acids that actually help you lose weight along with jont pain etc, it also has plenty of iron.

 Actually it's not better if it's organic, it's better if it's grass fed.  If you give a cow organic feed, it won't increase the omega 3's/omega 3 to Omega 6 ratio (unless the feed has been fortified); that only happens with grass/green diet.

Original Post by dovelette:

Original Post by keepliftin66:

chicken breat is the ultimate protein BUT  red meat has many other positives than chicken.  red meat better if organic has dha(omega 3) and cla both fatty acids that actually help you lose weight along with jont pain etc, it also has plenty of iron.

 Actually it's not better if it's organic, it's better if it's grass fed.  If you give a cow organic feed, it won't increase the omega 3's/omega 3 to Omega 6 ratio (unless the feed has been fortified); that only happens with grass/green diet.

 from all my research it has to be grass fed to be classified as organic.  i like how this website seems to be more about people trying to disprove each other than talking out points.

This is taken from a meat packing company's website.  Evidently "Certified Organic" does not mean "grass fed" to them.

The organic certification program is a fully verifiable production system that collects information on the history of every animal in the program, including its breed history, veterinary care, and feed. No antibiotics, growth-promoting hormones, steroids or animal by-products are added to our organic forage or grain. This means they are never fed rendered animal by-products from slaughter-houses that could have been contaminated with BSE (Mad-Cow-Disease). (BSE is transmitted to cattle through feed containing animal by-products from contaminated animals.)

evidently is does mean grass fed, that's what the ORGANIC FORAGE is.  the cattle must be allowed to graze freely on organic pastures.  the organic forage is allowed to be collected and carried to the animals as well. 

• All organically raised animals must have access to the outdoors, including access to pasture for ruminants. They may be temporarily confined only for reasons of health, safety, the animal’s stage of production or to protect soil or water quality.

we're all making good points and seem to all be right but it's getting off point.  i just noticed that you said that you're training for a competition, another reason they may be leaving chicken off the list is that most times chicken can be packaged with a high amount of saline solution raising the overall sodium level higher than most beefs.

Grass fed and organic are not he same thing.  Meat can be organic without meeting the requires of grass fed beef.  As said above, cows fed organic grain can be certified organic but are not grass fed even if they have mostly eaten organic folage.  I suppose it also possible for a grass fed cow not to be organic if the folage it has eaten is not certified organic.

Original Post by keepliftin66:

Original Post by dovelette:

Original Post by keepliftin66:

chicken breat is the ultimate protein BUT  red meat has many other positives than chicken.  red meat better if organic has dha(omega 3) and cla both fatty acids that actually help you lose weight along with jont pain etc, it also has plenty of iron.

 Actually it's not better if it's organic, it's better if it's grass fed.  If you give a cow organic feed, it won't increase the omega 3's/omega 3 to Omega 6 ratio (unless the feed has been fortified); that only happens with grass/green diet.

 from all my research it has to be grass fed to be classified as organic.  i like how this website seems to be more about people trying to disprove each other than talking out points.

I was just trying to dispell a common myth about organic vs. grassfed.  Sorry if you felt like it wasn't worth mentioning, but there is so much misinformation about organic stuff out there that I felt it was important to point out.  You are absolutely right about red meat being better if it has more omega 3's, but I think a lot of people spend a lot of money on stuff that's not necessarily better for them like they think it is.  We've seen lots of posts even on here saying "If I eat organic will I lose weight faster?" Organic is thrown around like the pinnacle of health, but organic junk is still junk.

A really really great resource to read about omega 3's vs omega 6's (which, after all, was your main point) is The Omega Diet.  Its really a cool book about why grass fed animals have higher 3:6 ratios, why even using organic grain is still grain, how people can lable things "Free range" and the animals never once touch real earth, etc. 

Please don't take offense if someone presents different information than you; I too have done extensive research on "clean" food and definately push for everyone to eat that way, but I also want to see the most accurate information being given.