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The Sacred Heart Memorial Hospital Soup Diet???

Has anyone ever gone on this diet? Does it work?

I'm making it right now and I'm about to start tomorrow on it. I've heard from my mom and some other people that it works. Then I read on the internet that it works but you'll gain everything back when you get off it.

Just wondering from people who have tried it. Thanks!

Lords1 -- you seem very passionate about this diet, all of your posts revolve around defense of the diet -- I'd like to know what weight you started from and where you are at now.

I don't think anyone is debating that you can lose weight on this diet -- it is a restricted calorie diet, no matter how much soup you eat. Most people will lose weight on a restricted calorie diet.  Your likelihood of success is increased dramatically if you are clinically obese.  The closer you are to a healthy weight, the less likely you will be able to be successful.

The problems are:

1 -- Sacred Heart Medical Center did not develop this diet, and there is no known Sacred Heart Memorial Hospital.

2 -- This diet is incredibly boring and hard to maintain

3 -- It is lacking in nutrition and therefore, over the long run, could lead to medical problems.  See the report issued by the University of Kansas Medical Center

I, like most women of the 60s, 70s, and 80s tried this diet more than once.  The one time I made it through one week, I did lose about 7 lb.  Unfortunately, I put on about 12 over the next month.  I can not imagine doing the diet on a cycle.  But that's me.

By the way, it is very rude to post your comments w/in the quote box of someone else's comments -- that essentially makes the comments look like they came from the quoted member -- not you.

Original Post by coach_k:

Lords1 -- you seem very passionate about this diet, all of your posts revolve around defense of the diet -- I'd like to know what weight you started from and where you are at now.

I don't think anyone is debating that you can lose weight on this diet -- it is a restricted calorie diet, no matter how much soup you eat. Most people will lose weight on a restricted calorie diet.  Your likelihood of success is increased dramatically if you are clinically obese.  The closer you are to a healthy weight, the less likely you will be able to be successful.

The problems are:

1 -- Sacred Heart Medical Center did not develop this diet, and there is no known Sacred Heart Memorial Hospital.

2 -- This diet is incredibly boring and hard to maintain

3 -- It is lacking in nutrition and therefore, over the long run, could lead to medical problems.  See the report issued by the University of Kansas Medical Center

I, like most women of the 60s, 70s, and 80s tried this diet more than once.  The one time I made it through one week, I did lose about 7 lb.  Unfortunately, I put on about 12 over the next month.  I can not imagine doing the diet on a cycle.  But that's me.

By the way, it is very rude to post your comments w/in the quote box of someone else's comments -- that essentially makes the comments look like they came from the quoted member -- not you.

 My mistake, which I am just correcting since I am not familiar with this website's quote boxes.

Firstly, claire IS debating that the diet helps you lose weight. She says that it doesn't when it does, by my experience. As for my weight loss, I was 315 and went down to 235.

Secondly I am NOT a woman, so I have the distinct advantage of  losing weight on this diet very easily, as have many of the men that I know who have. Their wives haven't had the same level of weight loss, but they cheated. I maintain all my physical energy with no slump or tired feeling, and I am elevated in my energy the whole two weeks of the diet.

For all that you said, you've missed the point that this NOT the Sacred Heart Hospital diet that I'm talking about, its the Lehigh Valley Hospital heart patient diet, for lack of a better name, and all the argument about there NOT being a Sacred Heart Hospital endorsement on it doesn't hold water about it.

Neither does your argument that it a restricted intake diet, OR that its boring. You seem to speak for your own lack of creativity while using the basic food groups to your advantage with cooking skills. I have never made the soup my main entree for a whole day and I eat every 2-3 hrs. from whatever is on the listed food group for the day. Watermelon, cantelope and apples for fruit, all kinds of salads and veggies on the vegg days. If I can knock down 1800 calories of these foods in a long day and still lose weight, whats your problem with that?

I also take exception to your saying that its lacking in nutrition since I am a very experienced in health and vitamins and continue to make sure that I have the proper foods and vitamin supplements during the diet. If I'm eating a ton of fruit and vegetables with the chicken noodle soup that the diet proscribes, how am I deprived of nutrition? And its only four of seven days, then its all the meat that I want with veggies.

You seem to keep taking to your exceptions to this as a fad diet of disrepute while slopping some bourgeois and seemingly technical pap as 'problems'. However, your logic in the problems list doesn't make sense. If you're obese, and the diet works for you, then all else seems moot. If you aren't obese any longer, and are closer to your target weight, and the diet ceases to work, then so be it. But it did deliver on the way down. Again...Whats the problem? If I've lost 80 lbs and kept it off, your theories don't work by my experience. I don't have to be passionate about defending the diet to call nonsense what it is.

Now, it appears overall that you didn't read my comments in context, and while my tone with claire is probably what set you off, you really need to make the distinction between my Legigh valley Hospital diet that I know came from their heart group, and the Sacred Heart diet. Next, since you've identified yourself as a woman who, in the 1960's and 70's tried the Sacred Heart diet to unsatisfactory results, you need to lump summing your poor experience with someone else's potential success. Its only a two week diet, if they give it a shot and win, then what? You've disserved these people and tarnished your advice. I'll look at the study that you posted from U of Kansas but I suspect its based on the Sacred Heart diet and not on mine, so it'll be of little impact on me. Good luck and thanks for sharing.

Original Post by lords1:

Original Post by coach_k:

Lords1 -- you seem very passionate about this diet, all of your posts revolve around defense of the diet -- I'd like to know what weight you started from and where you are at now.

I don't think anyone is debating that you can lose weight on this diet -- it is a restricted calorie diet, no matter how much soup you eat. Most people will lose weight on a restricted calorie diet.  Your likelihood of success is increased dramatically if you are clinically obese.  The closer you are to a healthy weight, the less likely you will be able to be successful.

The problems are:

1 -- Sacred Heart Medical Center did not develop this diet, and there is no known Sacred Heart Memorial Hospital.

2 -- This diet is incredibly boring and hard to maintain

3 -- It is lacking in nutrition and therefore, over the long run, could lead to medical problems.  See the report issued by the University of Kansas Medical Center

I, like most women of the 60s, 70s, and 80s tried this diet more than once.  The one time I made it through one week, I did lose about 7 lb.  Unfortunately, I put on about 12 over the next month.  I can not imagine doing the diet on a cycle.  But that's me.

By the way, it is very rude to post your comments w/in the quote box of someone else's comments -- that essentially makes the comments look like they came from the quoted member -- not you.

 My mistake, which I am just correcting since I am not familiar with this website's quote boxes.

Firstly, claire IS debating that the diet helps you lose weight. She says that it doesn't when it does, by my experience. As for my weight loss, I was 315 and went down to 235.

Secondly I am NOT a woman, so I have the distinct advantage of  losing weight on this diet very easily, as have many of the men that I know who have. Their wives haven't had the same level of weight loss, but they cheated. I maintain all my physical energy with no slump or tired feeling, and I am elevated in my energy the whole two weeks of the diet.

For all that you said, you've missed the point that this NOT the Sacred Heart Hospital diet that I'm talking about, its the Lehigh Valley Hospital heart patient diet, for lack of a better name, and all the argument about there NOT being a Sacred Heart Hospital endorsement on it doesn't hold water about it.

Neither does your argument that it a restricted intake diet, OR that its boring. You seem to speak for your own lack of creativity while using the basic food groups to your advantage with cooking skills. I have never made the soup my main entree for a whole day and I eat every 2-3 hrs. from whatever is on the listed food group for the day. Watermelon, cantelope and apples for fruit, all kinds of salads and veggies on the vegg days. If I can knock down 1800 calories of these foods in a long day and still lose weight, whats your problem with that?

I also take exception to your saying that its lacking in nutrition since I am a very experienced in health and vitamins and continue to make sure that I have the proper foods and vitamin supplements during the diet. If I'm eating a ton of fruit and vegetables with the chicken noodle soup that the diet proscribes, how am I deprived of nutrition? And its only four of seven days, then its all the meat that I want with veggies.

You seem to keep taking to your exceptions to this as a fad diet of disrepute while slopping some bourgeois and seemingly technical pap as 'problems'. However, your logic in the problems list doesn't make sense. If you're obese, and the diet works for you, then all else seems moot. If you aren't obese any longer, and are closer to your target weight, and the diet ceases to work, then so be it. But it did deliver on the way down. Again...Whats the problem? If I've lost 80 lbs and kept it off, your theories don't work by my experience. I don't have to be passionate about defending the diet to call nonsense what it is.

Now, it appears overall that you didn't read my comments in context, and while my tone with claire is probably what set you off, you really need to make the distinction between my Legigh valley Hospital diet that I know came from their heart group, and the Sacred Heart diet. Next, since you've identified yourself as a woman who, in the 1960's and 70's tried the Sacred Heart diet to unsatisfactory results, you need to lump summing your poor experience with someone else's potential success. Its only a two week diet, if they give it a shot and win, then what? You've disserved these people and tarnished your advice. I'll look at the study that you posted from U of Kansas but I suspect its based on the Sacred Heart diet and not on mine, so it'll be of little impact on me. Good luck and thanks for sharing.

 Well, it may not be the sacred heart diet, but it's close.  Besides....have you ever logged what you ate in a day and seen what the calories really add up to?  Can you really eat 1800 calories of just soup and veggies in a day? 

Personally, I could eat veggies and fruit all day and still not even get to 1200 calories...maybe you are different though.

And where is the protein?  It has you going several days without any substantial amount of protein.  (the little bits of chicken in the soup is not enough protein for a day)  That fact right there is just another reason why this would not be a good diet.  Why try so hard to limit foods?  The food pyramid is there for a reason.  We need a well-rounded diet.  Not one that goes several days without major food groups.

Talk about not reading.  You want us to read every word of your posts and figure out what you mean, but you don't do the same. 

As I said before - yes, you can lose weight on this diet.  I stated my personal experience - it made me sick.

Every single statement I made about the safety and efficacy of this diet can be backed up with information from reputable medical sources.  All we have from you is your say so that you lost weight. 

Here's a link to Lehigh Valley Hospital Weight Managment program.  Scroll down to learn about what they reccomend to people

http://www.lvh.org/lvh/Your_LVH/Diseases_Cond itions%7C%7C%7C%7C%7C%7C%7CP01570

edited to add another link.  Scroll down to see what they say about sodium

http://www.lvh.org/lvh/Your_LVH/Diseases_Cond itions%7C%7C%7C%7C%7C%7C%7CP01508