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Seitan from scratch / wheat gluten question


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So I have bought the pre-made seitan and the little chunks and brown broth vaguely reminded me of canned dog food.  Ick.  So I bought a mix and made it from a mix a few weeks ago and it was really good!  I decided this time I would just make it from scratch.  However, the recipe calls for "vital wheat gluten."  I went to Whole Foods and the only thing I could find is "wheat gluten flour".  Is this the same thing?  If not, where can I find "vital wheat gluten" (section of the store/what does it look like) and what can I do with this "wheat gluten flour" that I now have a pound of?

Has anyone else ever made seitan and if so what did you use?

Thanks!

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I've no idea what vital wheat gluten is but would have thought your 'wheat gluten flour' would be ideal for bread-making or something like the base of a pizza.   Bread needs plenty of gluten in the dough.

Bob's Red Mill makes vital wheat gluten.  I have never bought but I think it has a recipe for making seitan on the side of it.  I found it at Earthfare with all the other strange flours.  I doubt that the wheat gluten flour is the same but I don't know. 

I make my own seitan all the time and I agree--it is SO much better.  I use the "wheat gluten flour" by arrowhead mills, in the blue box.  So, I think you are ok with what you have.  It IS possible make wheat gluten out of regular flour, but it is a giant pain--you have to sit and wash the flour for hours and hours.  Much easier with the wheat gluten flour. 

There is a recipe on the side of the box, but I use the one from Isa Moskovitz's Vegan with a Vengeance.  I also do it in the food processor, to speed the whole thing up--just include everything at once and whiz it up.  Here is the recipe:

Ingredients
1 1/2 cups vital wheat gluten flour
1/4 cup nutritional yeast flakes

1 cup very cold water or vegetable broth
1/2 cup soy sauce
1 tablespoon tomato paste
2 cloves garlic, pressed or grated on a microplane grater
1 teaspoon finely grated lemon zest

Simmering Broth
10 cups water or vegetable broth
1/2 cup soy sauce

Directions
In a large bowl, mix together Vital Wheat Gluten Flour and nutritional yeast flakes.

In a separate bowl, mix together remaining ingredients: water or veg broth, soy sauce, tomato paste, garlic, lemon zest.

Pour the wet ingredients into the dry and combine with a firm spatula, knead dough for about 3 minutes until a spongy, elastic dough is formed. Let dough rest for a couple of minutes and prepare your broth, but don't start boiling it.

Now roll your dough into a log shape about 8 inches long and cut into 3 equal sized pieces. Place the pieces in the broth. It is important that the water/broth be very cold when you add the dough, it helps with the texture and ensures that it doesn't fall apart. Partially cover the pot (leave a little space for steam to escape) and bring to a boil.

When the water has come to a boil set the heat to low and gently simmer for an hour, turning the pieces every now and again.

Let it cool in the simmering broth for at least a half an hour. It is best if it cools completely. If you want to store some of it for later use put it in a sealable container covered in the simmering broth.

 

Great!  Thanks lookready!

yes, whole foods' wheat gluten flour is the same. i've used it in seitan recipes with no problem.

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lookready- i just made some of isa's seitan, it tastes amazing; mine is kind of gummy and falling apart though, i may have used to much water. the good old frying pan fixed that though.

i was also wondering if seitan is a complete protein like tofu?

No, it's not complete.  It is just wheat protein. 

As a side note, I made some seitan a couple of days ago.  You can mix in just about any spice or ingredient for flavoring.  You can also bake it to give a firmer texture (when it boils it swells up and gets kind of gummy).  I used this recipe, substituting vegetarian beef b roth for the water, and it was fabulous:

http://blog.fatfreevegan.com/2007/05/barbecue d-seitan-ribz.html

Thank you for putting your recipe up, lookready! I have been looking for a good one for weeks!
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