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Is this true about sugar?!


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So....i found this...and was wondering if its true? I know a few places that i tend to always over-eat at when i go there....but maybe eating a cookie before would help? (and it gives me a reason to eat a cookie!! score!!)

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Yep! Ice cream before every meal = weight loss! Laughing

I can't confirm or dispel the ad, but I do know (as stated in my Nutrition Almanac) that a good design of nutrients and minerals in the body will assist with weight loss and that sugar (added sugar) will disrupt that design.

As I understand it, consuming added sugar is like putting diesel into an unleaded fueled vehicle.

Original Post by skookum:

I can't confirm or dispel the ad, but I do know (as stated in my Nutrition Almanac) that a good design of nutrients and minerals in the body will assist with weight loss and that sugar (added sugar) will disrupt that design.

As I understand it, consuming added sugar is like putting diesel into an unleaded fueled vehicle.

 why would sugar have anything to do with weightloss?... isnt it all about calories in vs calories out? You get 200 calories from rice or 200 calories from cake....if you use up the 200 calories, no problem.

Sugar does not = weight gain!

as a self confessed chocoholic I am living proof of this

it does= too many visits to the dentist and energy!

I consume at least 2 bars per day and successfully lost and kept off the lbs

bad fats are what I watch out for!

Original Post by loriklorik:

Original Post by skookum:

I can't confirm or dispel the ad, but I do know (as stated in my Nutrition Almanac) that a good design of nutrients and minerals in the body will assist with weight loss and that sugar (added sugar) will disrupt that design.

As I understand it, consuming added sugar is like putting diesel into an unleaded fueled vehicle.

 why would sugar have anything to do with weightloss?... isnt it all about calories in vs calories out? You get 200 calories from rice or 200 calories from cake....if you use up the 200 calories, no problem.

 Hi...hopefully I have done this right and will now become part of this conversation :)

There is a lot of documented evidence that suggests that sugar (white in particular)is in fact the equivalent of poison from a medical perspective. It has been seen to have a negative effect on the immune system and the pancreas insulin production. It is addictive as all get out to boot...may have something to do with the chemicals in the refining process maybe. As for the ad, I reckon it's an early con... just sayin' 

i have to agree with Eaglesview...

High Fructose Corn Syrup and Sugar are the evil henchmen that are bringing the US population to the steps of obesity. I lost all my weight, (180 to 105) by cutting sugar and HFCS out of my diet. It leaves you hungry and it is addictive like crack.

The health aspects outside of obesity are tremendous... diabetes, and mood disorders being two of them... this is being carried on to our children. McDonalds only has two items on the menu that don't have sugar in them (Watch SUPERSIZE ME if you get the chance. ) Also look up something as heard on NPR called the SUGAR PROJECT... it relates our sugar intake to ill levels of serotonin and dopamine... also shows evidence that it can exacerbate or be reason for ADHD or ADD in kiddos.

I cannot emphasize the need to read ingredients... as you can see I am passionate about sugar! i even avoid sweetners when possible because I think they are a trigger and being artifical cannot be good for you...

ANYWAY.. i say if you must have chocolate make it special dark!!! Innocent

How old is that AD?  It looks like it was done in the sixties or seventies.

There has been a lot more studies done since then.

It may work for a few people, but for the most part, the effect is the opposite: sugar causes a rapid rise in blood glucose, followed by a rise of insulin, and when the insulin makes your blood sugar go back down, you're left even hungrier.

Unless you're hypoglycemic and following doctor's instructions, or very underweight and underfat, or an EXTREME athlete and unable to get enough calories any other way, extra sugar is not going to help and will probably hurt. I got to my lifetime high weight thanks to sugar and limiting it was all it took to go from obese to just barely overweight, and avoidance of corn syrup and extra added sugars has kept my BMI below 27 my entire adult life (except for when I was 18 years old and hadn't lost any yet).

Original Post by ryanms:

It may work for a few people, but for the most part, the effect is the opposite: sugar causes a rapid rise in blood glucose, followed by a rise of insulin, and when the insulin makes your blood sugar go back down, you're left even hungrier.

Unless you're hypoglycemic and following doctor's instructions, or very underweight and underfat, or an EXTREME athlete and unable to get enough calories any other way, extra sugar is not going to help and will probably hurt. I got to my lifetime high weight thanks to sugar and limiting it was all it took to go from obese to just barely overweight, and avoidance of corn syrup and extra added sugars has kept my BMI below 27 my entire adult life (except for when I was 18 years old and hadn't lost any yet).

 so true! people don't even begin to know how bad this stuff is. .. and it is in EVERYTHING. ...

I'm sure it's different for everyone, but the one surefire way for me to gain weight is to eat too much sugar. Cutting it out not only makes me feel better, but it also makes my eczema calm down (who knew?).

Anyway, as to your question about why sugar makes you fat:

http://ezinearticles.com/?How-Sugar-Makes-You -Fat&id=205846

 

opps, petitoiseau beat me to it. ARGH!!! Cry

I once read an explanation by a guy that said if your liver, muscles, and blood were full to their maximum storage on glucose, then any excess sugar consumed will be made into fat because there is no place to store anymore sugar besides in the form of adipose tissue. 

That seems like a simple explanation to me, and probably not true. Moreover, what happens to excess fat and protein? What happeed to Trust Women, she's the one in med school, she should know. haha..

Simple sugars can be good when you need to restore muscle and liver glycogen after intense workouts since it spikes insulin levels and gets the sugar to your cells quicker.

You can just restrict your calories to get down to a certain level of body fat, but if you want to get really low, you must start restricting your carbs, especially simple sugars.

Here is how I feel about sugar, (like you readers haven't already guessed)...

I lost all this weight, and fat cells don't disappear, they just go flat... an empty inner tube just waiting to be blown up again.

When I look at cookies, mac and cheese, red velvet cake, mashed taters, grits... etc... etc... all is see are flat fat cells just waiting to be blown up again so my self-esteem can crash and I can loose all hope for summer.

sigh...

Seriously, it's not sugar that makes you fat! and as for all the insulin talk you have to be over doing it for it to have any great risk, 25g/50g of chocolate is not going to make someone diabetic!

3 litre bottles of full sugar pop, 6 donuts, and 5 bars of chocolate per day might? 

(these figures aren't exact just making the point that you have to be consuming a lot for it to have health risks).

As with everything moderation is the "Word"!

Original Post by fortius:

opps, petitoiseau beat me to it. ARGH!!! Cry

I once read an explanation by a guy that said if your liver, muscles, and blood were full to their maximum storage on glucose, then any excess sugar consumed will be made into fat because there is no place to store anymore sugar besides in the form of adipose tissue. 

That seems like a simple explanation to me, and probably not true. Moreover, what happens to excess fat and protein? What happeed to Trust Women, she's the one in med school, she should know. haha..

Simple sugars can be good when you need to restore muscle and liver glycogen after intense workouts since it spikes insulin levels and gets the sugar to your cells quicker.

You can just restrict your calories to get down to a certain level of body fat, but if you want to get really low, you must start restricting your carbs, especially simple sugars.

Hehe, sorry Wink

I can't say whether the article is factual or not, but I do know that when I eat too much sugar or carbs I get fat, but when I eat too much protein it comes out in my urine (not a good thing, according to my doctor). By that alone, you can see that the body metabolizes carbohydrates and proteins differently. As always, moderation is key.

But when you think about it, the whole "you'll get fat if you eat too many sweets" mantra has been around for hundreds of years, told to sweet-toothed children (myself included) all over the world. That's gotta stand for something Tongue out

Someone mentioned artifical sugar - that stuff is poison. The body really doesn't know how to process it. I told my brother this for years , he drank diet soda for years. It makes you crave more. He stopped and dropped weight right away and felt better. I had a friend years ago that they thought she had a brain tumor, it ended up related to the 6 pack of diet soda a day. I also believe the fat free crap is no good. If you body wants something give it the real thing or it just keeps craving it.  I know that it I didn't address real sugar which we use too much. Just look at through history how much more we use compared to 40-50 yrs ago.

this is true about moderation...

but you just have to read your labels... HFCS and sugar are put into things that you don't even think about when you eat it.  not just the obvious. 

i agree too about artificial sweetners... triggers...

i just ate an apple.. pretty sweet.. lol. Tongue out

Sugar is my friend, and when we're in our death beds in the same hospice room, I'll have my food log there, along with a narrative of how wonderful each individual sundae I ate was.

Not everyone will have the exact same reaction to sugar in their diet.

But eating lots of sugar over an extended period of time, say a month, is all it takes in some cases to change metabolic patterns to promote fat storage (and disturb mood/serotonin balance).  If you can, visualize that there is a tipping point for insulin resistance which once passed leads to a vicious cycle of constant hunger and weight gain, even when calories are moderately restricted.

What if it's all a big fat lie?

I think it would be interesting to take some healthy young adults and put them on a series of three diets, each lasting 8 weeks, and measure their performance at various tasks (driving, puzzles, read and recall, physical training tests, etc.) during the diet.  First diet --> 90% carb, 5% protein, 5% fat.  Second diet --> 90% protein, 5% carb, 5% fat.  Third diet --> 90% fat, 5% carb, 5% protein.

I think some studies similar to this were done prior to WWII, but by different researchers & with different subjects (& only male subjects).  I'd like to do this on one large test group that includes both genders.  And I'd keep them in a lab to make deviation from the diet(s) more difficult.

Check what the sender of the poster is... this is the Sugar Information Center... they want to sell sugar.

oh well... 50 yrs ago they also said that smoking was healthy! We also know what a big load of ... that was. A lot of people died from that. Too much sugar is also harmful for your body.

Sugar may not be a weight gainer (calorie in-out story) but what it does do is cause you a high in your bloodsugar followed by a low because your body starts to make more insuline. When you are low you start eating because you become hungry.

As mint-julep7 I've also cut out almost all sugar and sweetners out of my diet and since then I'm doing just fine with my weight loss. I replaced it with slow carbs which take much longer to get into the bloodstream.

If I want a sweeter taste I use honey or guavasirup. Again: since then my mind and body is so much quieter. I almost never have binges anymore. I only eat sugar if I can't hide from it (i.e. when someone else makes my food) but those moments are not often.

Jolanda

And being Bled is a really good way to get rid of the flu.

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