agruskin's Journal
Nov 11 2009 11:04
Ever look at the CDC reccs for excercise amounts for health?? holy jeez! its a lot!!!!
today-
B:cereal w trail mix+ milk, yogurt w/flax, apple~550
S:almonds+dried fruit~250
L: chicken salad on a roll, grapes, carrot sticks~350
S: trail mix~250
D: veg salad wlots of trail mix+grapes, veg burger w ketchup+roasted pepper hummus, corn on cob~550
S: pb+j, apple, yogurt, pudding w/flax added, grapes~~550
2500
10 min tv weight routine
billy blanks basic 20 min tae bo take
yesterday (tues)-
B:cereal+trail mix w/milk, greek yogurt w/flax added~400
S:ounce of brown cinimmon sugar almonds,1 prune! lol~200
L: chicken salad on a roll, trail mix, carrots, grapes~400
S:cereal+golden raisins+chocolate chips w/milk, peach, giant apple, small peice bagel w/pb~500
D: salad w/lots of trail mix+fruit, fish w/greek yogurt, corn on cob~550
S: trail mix, PB, apple, yogurt, 110 grand candy bar~500
2550
BSH-no nuts, that sucks, i honestly dont know how to eat or what-limit dairy, no eggs, no nuts, too much fiber? wtf thanks tho |
BSH-hi, i just read ur comment in the last entry but thought id respond here and hope u see it! thak u for ur advice, it was really good and i hope u can somehow turn it around so that it applies to u too. thing is, my excercise IS moderate, im in and out of the gym w ppl still there who got in before me, i just feel compelled to do it almost everyday, i take at least 1 day off. i feel ok eating on that 1 day off bc i know i was active the oter 6 days or so. thing is, i HATE excercising MOST of the time. i cant imagine a 30 min walk, whats the recc amount, 3 days a week? well i cant imagine that that would allow someone to maintain on more than 1400 cals or something. what do most ppl do? not the obsessed ppl on the site, just normal ppl, who dont starve and not over/under weight. im baffled. |
Hum...one of my classmate was going to the gym regularly not because she liked to exercise, but because she liked the gym supervisor (ok, more 'was crazy' about him). Since she was a student and they had an 'affair', he got fired, lol. Maybe you can go 'Boy hunting' and then the motivation will come :)
...just thought I'd thrown some jokes in here ;) |
vanilla-haha, thanks! its weird, most of the ppl in my gym r either much older, like 50s and up, or female or just not for me, so i havent seen any guys, unfortunately! I looked up the CDC reccs for excercise, its so much!!!!!!!!!!!! wtf |
GOOBY-that is so scarey, im scared ill never excercise again and blow up, im scared i wont eat, im scared i will be so hungry and eat and blow up, i love food, i hate excercising! i am very glad that u escaped that prison, good for u! |
Hey if you aren't keen on exercising at the gym why not try joining a social sports team? That way you win all round - active (while probably not noticing how much you're actually doing), social and you'll meet new people. |
eskimo-yea, good idea, do u know of anything or do u do any? i forget, u recovered? how r u? |
Just choose a sport you're interested in and have a look around for social leagues (netball/volleyball/soccer etc). I've always been really into sport and exercise and do a lot of running and weights on my own and with a training partner but I think that for people less interested a sports team is a good way to go. I'm not recovered yet but doing a lot better now. Still working on getting the weight up and getting over old habits but it'll come with time now that I'm actually doing something about it. (I hope anyway!) good luck :) |
eskimo-hi, yea, i need to find out where to look into that, it could be a good idea. i was never into sports. yikes, still doing lots of running but not at a good weight? dont want to really turn it around on u but missy...i think maybe a rest is in order?? dont want to offend, but running is the biggest cal burner as u know so itll only serve to elongate the recovery process, again im sure u know that too. gl and check in when u want!! |
amy: i noticed your post on the h&s forum. i know this is not the first time you've posted a question like this. so here comes some tough love. the answer to how much exercise is right and healthy for YOU does not exist out the world. no one is ever going to be able to give you an answer that takes away the guilt you feel when you don't exercise a lot. because, if it worked that way, you wouldn't feel guilty any more. the bitch of this system is as follows: so long as you exercise out of guilt, you will never enjoy exercise. NEVER. no routine, no machine will ever cure you of this. IF you want to be able to enjoy exercise, you are going to have to do the WORK that allows you to have a relationship with exercise that is not based on fear...and therefore guilt. and, the only way to get there is to learn how to tolerate feeling guilty about NOT exercising. this guilt will not kill you. it's not bigger than you. it's not stronger than you. it's just an emotion. it will come. and it will go. but if you want it to stop ruling your life in this area, you need to be willing to not give in to what the guilt tells you to do. what does this mean? i think you need to take an extended break from formal exercise. as you've gone from maintenance and now back to gaining, i don't think you've demonstrated that you are able to have a healthy relationship with exercise. so, if your aim is to get healthy now, i think you need to stop exercising. the only way to learn how to tolerate the guilt is to place that guilt squarely on your shoulders until you realize you can live your life WITH it. this is coming from a place of love and wanting to support you. how many more times do you want to go through this? how many more times do you want to survey other people to find out what is "normal?" there is NO normal. only YOU can choose how exercise fits in your life. bethany, if you're reading this too, i would suggest the same thing for you. i know it's hard for you to experience feelings of guilt and sadness around your weight. and i know that having a family means that you often have to swallow those emotions in the service of carrying out your roles as a mother and wife. but, like i said to amy, these things you are feeling are just emotions. they come. they go. they've worked that way your whole life. when you decide to live your life trying to avoid feeling certain ways, it's easy to find yourself not acting out of choice, but out of force. running is not your friend right now. it's a friend of your guilt. if you want these emotions to stop ruling you, you have to CHOOSE to do something different when they show up. you both have come a VERY long way. don't stop here. there is so much more life to live. |
haha, i just noticed my post on what i ate yesterday, well i wrote "110 grand candy bar" instead of the name, 100 grand, i guess some subconscious taking there bc thats my weight! lol so funny hi laura- nope, not the 1st time ive posted, deff perseverating on that thought. ok, im reading and processing what u wrote, im good on understanding that there will never be an exact answer on how much excercise i need, that ill feel guilty if i dont do waht i prescribe to be the perfect amount, and that this all needs to change bc rt now it is forced and when i dont do it, i feel as tho i cant eat as much and just plain wrong+guilty. yes, guilt is just an emotion, i will feel guilt but also fear, yes, another emotion, feara nd confusion bc one cannot not excercise, and not become obese. i do not have a healthy rltp w excercise. it got a little better but goes in waves, i now feel the pressure again, and i think its worse this time bc its not like im even spinning or something like that excessivley, im not undereating either. im doing a moderate amount and eating to gain, the fact that this moderate amount feels like such a chore, is what scares me about being a healthy weight, that ill never maintain since i cant even do that small amount of excercise on an excess amount of food. an extended break, yea, there r so many things i need to work on, i hate the damn unknown, its all i ever talked about in my last therapy, what will happen if i eat 2500 and not be active, yes, gain, what will happen if i reach an appropriate weight for me and still not want to excercise, maybe i will, maybe its physiological, idk. ugh, choose how excercise fits in my life, what is my life, i automatically think, how "should" it fit in my life, how do u know that answer?? im so effed up, its frickin crazy, i need to go for a drive i think, thank u laura, ur amazing, really |
amy, you're not effed up. we all fall into unhealthy relationships in some way. beating yourself up when you're struggling is not fair AND not effective. you WILL get through this. and if it feels hard, that means you're working. if this were comfortable and easy, you'd be moving in the wrong direction. there is nothing broken here. confusion is perhaps EXACTLY what you need right now. start with trying to tolerate THAT. you inspire me with how hard you work. laura |
laura-yea, my self esteem is actually pretty good, i mean im smart, i dont think im terribly ugly, lol, i have a lot to offer and ive accomplished a lot on my life, eating and excercise managemnet happen to be where my difficulties in life lie. im so confused tho, i feel as tho ive eaten something w/o the calorie count on it type of thing, lost as to how to estimate or what i should do. i didnt go to the gym today. i did do a 10 min weight routine i found on demand, on tv, and then a billy blanks "basic" 20 min (including warm up) dvd. it was excercise, i got my heart rate up, but it was diff and not as hard as what i noramlly make myself do, so i didnt hate it! i do feel guilt tho, that since i didnt push myself as hard, and therefore didnt burn as much cals, i should eat less, i mean that would make sense, rt? maybe not for me now, but for anyone else, yea. and thats the spiral, if i dont wo in the future, ill have to eat less, its just a fact, and its scarey. |
Just to answer your other q. You see what I eat every day, I don't know what the calories are but my portion sizes are often pretty big, eg big sandwiches, lots of muesli when I eat it for breakfast. I would estimate my day normally comes to about 2200-2400. And I am basically maintaining on that, the only weight I have put on lately is because of the baby lol. The exercise I am doing right now is prob about a 20-30 min walk 4x per week, it's not excessive by any means. So yes you can maintain a healthy weight on much more than 1400 calories a day without going ott on the exercise. The exercise is really not influencing calories by that much, it's just how much my body would need anyway. |
meryl-i wish i lived in a nicer climate like u, a 20 min walk after work would be so nice, if i could do it outside w/o freezing to death!!! ur so lucky! but how could i maintain on that much? i cant beleive it??!! |
Hmm I hate the climate here to be honest, it's too hot, very humid and muggy so I get sticky and sweaty whenever I walk anywhere. Well we are all different but I just wanted to give you the idea that you don't need to restrict just because you aren't doing loads of exercise. In fact it's the other way round - you just need to eat extra when you exercise a lot, not next-to-nothing because you don't. Just living and breathing and thinking is such a complex process when you break it down into the hundreds of thousands of biological processes which take place in your body each day, you need fuel just to live not just to exercise. |
thanks meryl, i hope ur rt! u know what, ur going to be an excellent mother!!! |
