vegetarian/vegan service question

So, is it vegetarian and/or vegan to swallow?" You don't have to kill anything to get it and you're not eating flesh... so I'm guessing it's vegetarian, but it does technically come from an animal since humans are animals, so I'm guessing it's not vegan? I realize the "animal" isn't being mistreated, but if I'm not mistake, it is to eat/use nothing from an animal right?

And yes, I expect to get flamed for this.... but I really am curious...

My friends bf is vegan.  Her and I had a similar conversation as this.  She explained to him she would no longer be able to 'service' him due to this reasoning.  He quickly decided it was acceptable behavior.

Original Post by abbeyhunter:

My friends bf is vegan.  Her and I had a similar conversation as this.  She explained to him she would no longer be able to 'service' him due to this reasoning.  He quickly decided it was acceptable behavior.

 I'm guessing females wouldn't get 'serviced' by a vegan either then, huh?

I think it is a futile exercise to try to apply logic to Veganism.

I don't know the exact answer to the question but found this information to be interesting.

There are many ingredients composing semen, and its makeup is the same from man to man. Here are a few of the constituent elements: vitamin C, calcium, chlorine, cholesterol, citric acid, creatine, fructose, lactic acid, magnesium, nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium, sodium, vitamin B12, and zinc.

The caloric content of the average ejaculate is estimated to be approximately 5 to 25 calories -- hardly the most fattening meal.

And for those of you who wrote in asking if semen is a good source of protein, its protein content is roughly equivalent to that found in the egg white of a large egg.

*Found at askmen.com  I don't know if that is a reliable source.  It seems though, that it would be classified as an animal by-product.  I guess this would be a creative answer for those looking for a B-12 supplement though.

Ha! You did it! I'm so proud!

*pats michachu on the back and smiles hugely*

Original Post by alaskanmama:

Ha! You did it! I'm so proud!

*pats michachu on the back and smiles hugely*

 XD

Great question.  Does it matter if he is vegan?  I mean, aside from the basic components of seminal fluid, it does vary from man to man.  Would a vegan or even a vegetarian be able to rationalize doing it if the other person, man/woman, were vegan? 

I was vegetarian for 18 years.  To me, seminal fluid was not something I considered to be food.  My reasons for being vegetarian were motivated by a disgust for inflicting harm on an animal.  I would not consider a BJ to be harming the 'animal'.  So I never had a problem with it. 

I can say this though.  Men with healthier diets tend to taste better.  Smokers & heavy drinkers are pretty gross.  Men who eat a lot of meat taste different too.  But everyone is different.  Chances are, if you don't like the way someone smells, you won't like the way they taste either.

My husband has recurrent prostate infections.  You don't wanna swallow that.  What's funny is that, when I was vegetarian, I swallowed, usually, but now that I eat meat again, I don't swallow.  Anyone confused?

I think this is something that could be considered outside the realm, almost like a free pass. Maybe Freegan?

I swallow and don't feel it compromises my beliefs or feelings about veganism.

Perhaps it's an issue of consent. While bees don't consent to your taking their honey, or cows to milking them, I assume any guy you are servicing is a willing participant, and therefore you are not using him.

However, if you were doing it just to, say, get his money (ala Anna Nicole Smith), I'd consider that using the guy, even if he is willing, and wouldn't be consistent with vegan.

Original Post by amethystgirl:

Perhaps it's an issue of consent. While bees don't consent to your taking their honey, or cows to milking them, I assume any guy you are servicing is a willing participant, and therefore you are not using him.

However, if you were doing it just to, say, get his money (ala Anna Nicole Smith), I'd consider that using the guy, even if he is willing, and wouldn't be consistent with vegan.

 Most vegans don't say anything about consent though.  I've never heard that argument before.  Not saying it's not valid, but I've always heard the blanket' nothing from an animal ever, it's cruel/unnatural/etc"

But definitely a good point.

Original Post by amethystgirl:

Perhaps it's an issue of consent. While bees don't consent to your taking their honey, or cows to milking them, I assume any guy you are servicing is a willing participant, and therefore you are not using him.

However, if you were doing it just to, say, get his money (ala Anna Nicole Smith), I'd consider that using the guy, even if he is willing, and wouldn't be consistent with vegan.

I'd kind of go with that but my duck consents to me taking her eggs.  She has no reason to lay eggs.  She is a single pet duck.  Her eggs are unfertilized.  If left in her house, where she lays them...she will refuse to go back in her house until they have been removed.  Makes me wonder why she doesn't have them somewhere else? 

I don't eat her eggs...but it's just a thought.

Which raises another question for me - why are pets ok? Pets provide companionship - or it only tangible products that should not be taken?

If so, does it depend what you do with the product? I take products from my dog, but I put them in the trash... although he'd probably be fine if I kept them for him for later.

So is it the actual use of the product, not just taking the product? If so, then perhaps that's the distinction - you might swallow the product, but you aren't really using it - that is, you are not performing the act because you want something to eat (drink?)

Original Post by amethystgirl:

Which raises another question for me - why are pets ok? Pets provide companionship - or it only tangible products that should not be taken?

If so, does it depend what you do with the product? I take products from my dog, but I put them in the trash... although he'd probably be fine if I kept them for him for later.

So is it the actual use of the product, not just taking the product? If so, then perhaps that's the distinction - you might swallow the product, but you aren't really using it - that is, you are not performing the act because you want something to eat (drink?)

 So, milking the cow is okay as long as you don't drink the milk?

i have another question on the topic.

does it make a difference if that man consumes meat and/or animal products?  because i mean, those would then be in his system...

Original Post by starlitocean:

i have another question on the topic.

does it make a difference if that man consumes meat and/or animal products?  because i mean, those would then be in his system...

 but isn't the semen an animal product by itself?  It came from a human...

Original Post by michachu:

 So, milking the cow is okay as long as you don't drink the milk?

Why buy the cow... sorry, that's a different thread.

Original Post by michachu:

Original Post by starlitocean:

i have another question on the topic.

does it make a difference if that man consumes meat and/or animal products?  because i mean, those would then be in his system...

 but isn't the semen an animal product by itself?  It came from a human...

 right.  but i'm curious to know if a man consumes meat...can a vegetarian swallow? 

Original Post by starlitocean:

Original Post by michachu:

Original Post by starlitocean:

i have another question on the topic.

does it make a difference if that man consumes meat and/or animal products?  because i mean, those would then be in his system...

 but isn't the semen an animal product by itself?  It came from a human...

 right.  but i'm curious to know if a man consumes meat...can a vegetarian swallow? 

 OHHHH because since the vegetarian is consuming the "man" he/she is therefore consuming the meat consumed by the "man"!!!

Original Post by amethystgirl:

Original Post by michachu:

 So, milking the cow is okay as long as you don't drink the milk?

Why buy the cow... sorry, that's a different thread.

 Well it seems that pets are okay for vegans.  Maybe said vegan wanted a pet cow?

Original Post by michachu:

Original Post by starlitocean:

i have another question on the topic.

does it make a difference if that man consumes meat and/or animal products?  because i mean, those would then be in his system...

 but isn't the semen an animal product by itself?  It came from a human...

Yea.  Haven't you ever milked a bull before?