Wagon Jumpers - February 1 - 7th, 2009 (Closed, Waiting List Available)
Welcome
(We are currently transitioning to 20 members (from 30). If you are interested in being on the waiting list, knowing that it will be a longer than usual list, please read below and e-mail me.)
Welcome to the Wagon Jumpers weekly thread. We are a group of CC members who have identified that one of our main challenges with achieving our weight loss, maintenance or general health goals is consistency.
This thread is designed to encourage long term commitment to our goals by publicly declaring them and asking the other members of this thread to hold us accountable. The primary focus of wagon jumpers is not how much weight you have lost, or need to loose, but what you need to do on a daily basis to meet your long term goals.
There are two rules for Wagon Jumpers:
1. All members must post once per week between Sunday and Friday.
2. All members must check the thread for members who have not posted by Saturday (a short list is posted on Thursday) or are on the MIA list on Sunday and send them a polite and positive message to stay involved in the group and on track with their goals.
If you would like to be a member of this thread please see the guidelines below and send me a PM if you are still interested (there may be a waiting list).
Medium Size Group = Some Time Commitment
The original idea of Wagon Jumpers was to create a close community where participants could get to know each other and hopefully form virtual-life and perhaps even physical-life bonds to create a support network as they attempted long term weight loss.
We quickly discovered that this was impossible with an 'always open' group as there were too many people coming and going. For this reason the group is capped at 30 participants.
A medium sized group means that we have an active thread that produces between 40 - 60 posts per week. Members do not need to read / respond to every post every week. I do notice that those who respond regularly do tend to keep their goals top of mind, and have a better chance to achieve them. I estimate the average time spent by an active member on Wagon Jumpers to be between 1-2 hours per week.
If you are looking for an always open group on CC there are several that operate by different weight criteria, similar motivational patterns etc... There are also many small groups that cap their numbers between 4-10 people to keep the group more intimate, and easier for members to keep up with.
Interested in Joining?
General Guidelines for Joining
1. Are you a wagon jumper?
Do you know how to loose weight, you often have success but then you find yourself loosing interest in your plan, or sabotaging your plan. It's not the "how" to loose weight that is the problem, it's the "how" to stay motivated.
2. Do you have a long way to go?
This group is designed so that members can get to know each other and support each other. Ideally you are planning to be a CC member and part of this forum for at least 6 months or more to achieve your goals and hopefully stay in motivation for a further 6 months or more.
Yes. This is, a long term plan.
3. Do you have the time?
This is a medium sized group, the thread does move fairly quickly each week. If you do not have regular internet access this is likely not the group for you.
Still interested?
Send Supersized a PM. (Please do not reply on the thread)
An overview will be sent to you, you will have a chance to ask questions and an invitation will be sent to you once a spot is open.
Wagon Jumpers Participants
Week 39 Riders:
Supersized (myself)
Week 35 Riders:
Week 31 Riders:
Week 30 Riders:
Week 29 Riders:
Week 27 Riders:
Week 25 Riders:
Week 24 Riders - Congratulations on 6 Months!:
Week 22 Riders:
Week 20 Riders - Congratulations on 5 Months!:
Week 19 Riders:
Week 17 Riders:
Week 15 Riders:
Week 13 Riders:
Week 11 Riders:
Week 10 Riders:
Week 9 Riders:
Week 7 Riders:
Missing In Action:
Missing In Action - 1 Week:
Missing In Action - 2 Weeks:
Current Membership: 25
Current Waiting List: 3
Outstanding Wait List Invites: 0
12 Week CONSISTENCY GOALS
(as set w/o January 11th, 2009)
By April 4th, I will be...
Letsgetitstarted - consuming an average of 1,500 cal/day and 3 times a week for a minimum 30 minutes.
Rpete144057 - logging my food daily and exercising 5 days a week for at least 30 minutes.
Jessicaanne2001 - exercising 5 days a week for at least 30 minutes, and logging my food daily.
Supersized - logging all of my daily calories and eating in a calorie range of no more than 2,000 cal/day and no less than 1,500 cal/day (calculated by weekly averages).
Figurethefat - exercising a minimum of 1,500 minutes each month, and I will restrict using the scale to two weigh-ins per week on Monday and Friday.
Unlimitedana - eating between 1,500 - 1,600 cal/day and exercising three time a week.
Sarah1090 - logging my calories daily and eating dinner with my mom no less than 4 nights per week.
Cawilder - maintaining a 500 - 1,000 calorie deficit on a daily basis measured by my food log and, working out 5 to 6X per week combo of cardio and lifting.
Carryonandon - maintaining 300 - 500 calorie deficit daily and, exercising 3x per week.
Raven21 - drinking a minimum of 4 bottles (2L) of water daily and, exercising a minimum of 3X per week.
Nannygabber - doing the NROLFW program 3 times per week, and I will establish a 40/30/30 (Carb/Fat/Protein) macronutrient pattern on a weekly average for a minimum of 5 weeks of the next 12.
Germaica - exercising 3 times a week and logging my food for at least 4 days per week.
Pelkeyjm - logging my food daily and exercising at least 3x per week for at least 30 minutes.
The_Vitamin_Dominatrix - logging my caloric intake on calorie count at least six days every week and, exercising in the gym at least 3 days each week.
Tiegurl - eating 1,500 - 2,000 calories and exercising 5x a week.
Kyashiis - running 20 kilometers a week and making progress on the number of repetitions in my calisthenic exercises (starting at: 20 push ups, 30 sit ups, 0 chin ups, 2x 30 sec plank, 20-30 jump rope)
Lam7 - Logging all daily calories at least 6 times a week and, exercising minimum 40 minutes 3x per week.
Sjenn23231 - consuming and average of 1,500 cal/day and, doing SEAL team type workout 3 times a week.
Msmeg1984 - Following the 40-30-30 diet guidelines in NROLFW and working out 3 a week NROLFW plan.
Constanza - using the CC food log every day and, exercising an average of 4 times per week across the 12 weeks.
Defrog3 - eating with improved nutritional quality of food, specifically ensuring that I am getting enough daily protein and carbs and, walking six miles a week weather permitting.
Amber1l - working out 6 days a week for one and a half hours.
Wenchie58 - keeping my calorie intake between 1,400 - 1,500 a day and, drinking at least 2 liters of water daily.
Bigbitty - logging my calories daily and continue to drink at least 2 liters of water per day.
Previous Threads:
Wagon Jumpers - January 25 - 31st, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - January 18 - 24th, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - January 11 - 17th, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - January 4 - 10th, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - December 28 - January 3rd, 2009
Wagon Jumpers - December 21 - 27th, 2008
Wagon Jumpers - December 14 - 20th, 2008
Wagon Jumpers - December 7 - 13th, 2008
Wagon Jumpers - November 30 - December 6th, 2008
Wagon Jumpers - November 23 - 29th, 2008
Wagon Jumpers - November 15 - 22nd, 2008
Wagon Jumpers - November 9 - 15th, 2008
Wagon Jumpers - November 2 - 8th, 2008
Wagon Jumpers - October 26 - November 1st, 2008
Wagon Jumpers - October 19 - 25th, 2008
Wagon Jumpers - October 12 - 18th, 2008
Wagon Jumpers - October 5 - 11th, 2008
Wagon Jumpers - September 28 - October 4th, 2008
Wagon Jumpers - September 21 - 27th, 2008
Wagon Jumpers September 14-20th, 2008
Wagon Jumpers September 7-13th, 2008
Wagon Jumpers August 31 - September 6th, 2008
Wagon Jumpers August 24 - 30th, 2008
Wagon Jumpers August 17 - 23rd, 2008
Wagon Jumpers August 10 - 16th, 2008
As always all members are encouraged to tag this thread so that it is easy to find.
Weekly Topic: Goal Check In
Can you believe we've completed 3 weeks of our 12 week goals already? That is 1/4 of the way towards the end of the goals. Look back to your goal, assess how you are doing? Are you on track? If not, what can you to do ensure you meet your goal in the next 9 weeks.
Sara.
Check in: Doing great! The exercise is coming along..even doing more than the 30 min...on the treadmill..the bike maintaining the goal..
On a different note, the hubby and I have decided that a "date night" is needed to get us out of the "lets go to the corner bar" for the odd night of giving me a break cooking..so we agreed that we both would make a bit of extra effort ie: me using curling iron, and make up and he would get in his nicest dockers...well I had a dress that I wore on our honeymoon..purple gauzy thing not...not only fit into it very nicely but when I came out of the bathroom( I hate to admit this but 45 min after starting to doll myself up) LOL He did a double take and went in to change shirts and he put on a tie!! I was so touched. He said I looked beautiful but he says that anyway...but I could see the spark in his eye when I 1st came out...very very nice and making this healthy lifestyle soooo worth the sweating at the exercise part. I know that the topic of last week was why keep this up..not only the more healthy aspect but the (for me) HUGE emotional pick me up too! I felt beautiful that night and for me that hasn't happened many times in my life.
I hope everyone has a great day!
Robin
Hey guys goal check in.............doing horribly......I am finally getting on track....I needed to figure out what was going on with my life first.....So I move in to my apartment tomorrow away from this drama at the boyfriends house.....I am to excited about it....
Oh, Robin that was such a nice post! Thanks for sharing it.
Amber, hope that things get better with the new location. NY is an exciting place and you deserve to enjoy it :)
Check in: sorry to say that I had a major crash falling off the wagon last night. I'm not sure why, but I'm definitely not going to let myself spiral out of control. I'm back on today and will redeem myself. BTW I ate a bunch of cashews (wow, who would have thought it was 800 calories worth?) and my homemade granola!
This week's topic:
Luckily my goals have naught to do with eating, so yeah, I'm right in there, 100%, weighing in on Fridays and Mondays. I love doing this although it's sometimes difficult to not jump on the scale to see the number. Also I had 1,840 minutes of exercise for the month of January, above and beyond my goal of 1,500. I don't do anything too strenuous though, it's usually just riding my bike, walking on the treadmill, walking the dog (slower than the treadmill because she's 11 and likes to stop and sniff), or doing yoga. I did buy the NROLFW book and have had a good browse through it. But I'm not ready to start that yet, maybe by the next 12 week goal setting...
Hope everyone has a great week.
GO Robin......It makes you feel good when your man looks at you with that little twinkle in his eye......I hope you guys had an amazing time.....
Hi Robin,
So nice to read your story and happy that you and your hubby found 'quality" time for each other. I believe that is so important and also helps those struggling that we are still "beautiful" no matter what.
I had a bad weekend emotionally and ATE so today...Feb. 1st it's back on the wagon to re-evaluate my goal and positive attitude in moving forward.
Have a great week and may you have many more "hot dates"!!!
Cheers,
Maureen
I'm doing good on the exercising. I haven't been doing to well with the food. So I'm half way on track. I just have to watch what I'm putting in my mouth and when I'm doing it.
Hi, Yes, Robin, date nights are important. I find it does make a difference - but usually I am still wearing my jeans - I have not worn a dress for my husband in a while -- HMMMM...
So, I feel like things are under control but I will tell you my weight (trying to break the scale phobia..) went from 192 to 194 to 195 in three days - YIKES - so I have not got back on- I believe it was because of water retention so I upp'd my water alot and really watched sodium. My clothes feel looser.
I ran a total of 26 miles this week. Got in 2 sessions of strength training. Did 2 HIIT sessions - those are tough - I use the stairmaster. I met my calories goals pretty much every day with average deficit of 700 calories - near as I can tell.
So, I am sure the scale will budge... I would dearly love to be below 190 - again!!
My husband and I are going to do Yoga together so I think that this will help me.
My planned ultra marathon on 2/21 is now out due to my lack of training. We are now targeting one for April or May.
I just need to get my weight down so I can more effectively run. I am wondering if it is carbs but I have to go too low carb as it just saps my energy!
Thoughts...
My Burn meter say 1880. On non work out days I eat about 1200 - 1400. When I run it is anywhere from 2500 to 3000 depending and I will eat to create a 1000 deficit. I get A's from CC all the time. I think my ratio is 45%/35%/20%
Thanks.
Robin I love doing the 'date night' my partner and I make a conscious effort to do that as well. Since he works swing shift throughout the week we don't see each other much and as we are closing on 10 years we find we need to make the effort. It is worth it when we do. I hope you had a lot of fun.
Amber I'm glad you have a place of your own to retreat to and work on making sure that you can collect your own thoughts and priorities. Make the most of being in NY and the opportunities it provides. Find some great friends and make sure you are your first priority.
Laura I think I'm developing a small nut phobia, they are really high in calories and I never seem to be able to stop at a reasonable amount. On the other hand they do have all the 'good' fats. Sounds like you are doing a great job with your goals. Keep at it.
Maureen We all have those days you are not alone in that, great that you are putting your feet back on the path you want and getting back to it.
Tiegurl Half way there is good, the food is the hard part to conquer for me as well.
Carol I think the question I would have and this may be where we need a proper nutritionist or dietician is that when people get into the 1200 - 1500 range after reading NROLFW and a few other sources that said the same thing I'm never sure if this is enough calories and if we aren't slowing down our metabolisms by going that low. I really don't know as a year ago I thought I absolutely had to be that low to get any results and before that I was part of the under 1200 club. What I do know is that I've achieved my best and longest lasting results in the 2,000 range.
Sara.
Weekly Check-In
Didn't do as well as I hoped last week, my goal was to reduce from 2,800 avg cal/day to 2,600 and I missed by about 100 calories due to over eating on Friday and Saturday.
The scale went up on Sunday morning, which is not a surprise with the over eating the previous two days. Over the last four weeks I'm generally hovering in the same 5lb range, which continues to be interesting as I thought by eating this much and not exercising I'd be gaining lots of weight during this period. I'm really just maintaining.
I'm almost finished NROLFW and after comparing NROLFW to the blog Health Habits that I read I think I'm going to start testing things out with NROLW, most of what Health Habits recommends are HIIT versions of the exercises in NROLFW, so, if I can start to test out the exercises in NROLFW then I can later include them in HIIT workouts.
Goal Check In
I'm doing spectacular at the food logging. I'm being diligent about logging each bit, the extra sauce, etc... etc... It is easy to identify where I can cut slowly. The little bites add up and they are not always good decisions.
I'm not doing as well on the calorie reduction I'm down to 2,700 cal/day from over 3,200. I had a few bad days Friday, Saturday and Sunday, however even if I reduce at only 100 cal/day/week I do have the time to meet my goals, so I just need to stay with it.
Weekly Checkin: I am doing very well with my goals. I have exercised 5 days a week consistently (goal is 3 times a week) and have been getting at least my goals of 2L (4 500ml bottles) of water daily. My feeling (unless something crazy happens) is that I will be able to maintain this through the next 9 weeks and then in the next 12 week challenge instead of exercise and water I am going to have to focus on what I'm eating. As a rule I do eat well and have been paying more attention to the kinds of foods I'm eating and the ratio (i.e, protein, carbs and fats). I eat very well all week and most of the time suppers as well. It's the weekends that sometimes suck and that's all down to not planning things out.
I'm also looking for some advice around HIIT training I'd like to start adding this to my weekly exercise (treadmill is being moved into my house today!) so I'd like to start my days with a HIIT routine in the morning but I'm not sure how many days a week I should do HIIT and where to start. Any online plans for a beginner, using a treadmill?
Amber - glad you've found a place to call your own. Sometimes you just need to get away from the drama. Have fun settling in and getting to know your new city.
Robin - date night is a fantastic idea. Glad to hear the effect you had on your husband, always nice to make their heads turn
My husband and I try to do date night as well but we're guilty of making that movie on the couch night a little too often.
Julie - thanks for all the previous info on protein. I can definitely do the dairy (I have found now that I have cut out the gluten I don't have near the problem I used to with dairy, apparently that's also normal). The only thing I can't do is the seafood because I can't bring it in my house or work (husband is allergic at home and we also have employees that are allergic).
Sara - I still can't seem to find that "magic" number of calories that I should be eating. I think I'm going to have to seek advice. I have had my fitness trainer calculate that if I do nothing all day I shouldn't go below 1750, however I exercise 5 days a week right now and will probably up to 6 or 7 days once my treadmill is in place at my house (I really love exercise, it's addictive how good it makes your body feel), but I find it hard sometimes to get even that much now that I've cut out the gluten (which is in a lot of high calorie foods) without adding too much fat. Oh well guess I'll have to keep playing with it.
Have a great week everyone!
Weekly Check In:
Last week I wasn't as watchful of my intake as I should have been, nor as thorough about keeping track. I also had an awful time being motivated to work out. My fiance is also trying to get in shape, and somehow we end up talking each other out of working out instead of keeping each other motivated. The good thing is that when one of us is charged up they can drag the other along.
3 Week Goal Check In:
Well... my first week was almost perfect. I started slipping on the second week and I totally lost my footing last week. The good news is I've picked myself up and am continuing on. I won't lose the progress I've made by giving up.
Weekly Check In: Well, I'm very proud to say I hit my workout goal (3x a week) for the first time since we started the 12 week goals.
And I logged all my food intake for 6 days. So I'm on track.
3 Week Goal Check In: Food logging is going great, but I didn't hit my exercise goal the first 2 weeks. I did notice that if I only did one workout between Sunday and Tuesday, I would not do any more the rest of the week. It has helped me to get in 2 workouts between Sunday and Tuesday. I'm more motivated (and rested from the weekend) at the beginning of the week. Plus reading wagon jumpers tread every day helps to keep my goals at the top of my mind. That's been a BIG problem in the past. I would set out goals on January 1st and 6 weeks would go by and I would have forgotten about them. Everyday life would take up all my time and energy. The 12 week goals are a great idea Sara, it's been a big help for me. Also knowing that I'm accountable to all of you and have your support has been a great help.
Raven here is a link I found on About.com for HIIT training on a treadmill, hope this helps.
http://walking.about.com/od/treadmillworkouts /a/treadmillhiit.htm
Goal check-in: Nope, not on track. Exercise went well during week one, and food logging was out in left field for all three. I have rolled up my sleeves for this new week, as well as kicked myself in butt a couple of times. I have also cleaned out fitness area (if you recall a previous thread of mine), and have also planned this week's complete food menu (groceries bought), on meals that were successful for me in the past.
Yay Me ![]()
Original Post by lam7:
Goal check-in: Nope, not on track. Exercise went well during week one, and food logging was out in left field for all three. I have rolled up my sleeves for this new week, as well as kicked myself in butt a couple of times. I have also cleaned out fitness area (if you recall a previous thread of mine), and have also planned this week's complete food menu (groceries bought), on meals that were successful for me in the past.
Yay Me
Planning is key, now if I can remember that myself :) Breakfast, lunch and snacks are no problem it's just the supper menu that seems to elude me.
I just started my 3rd week of the program my fitness trainer designed for me. This week I had to add more poundage and one more set to my weight training. Boy oh boy does it make a difference. I also didn't have time to do my couch to 5 k during my lunch break so hopefully I can fit it in tonight after my search and rescue meeting.
ravin21: Yes, if there is one thing I have learned from consistency, it is food/meal planning. The most wonderful thing about it is, your fridge does go empty, no food waisted...and believe it or not, the meals are delicious! All my family members appreciate my effort in planning our weekly meals!
Just tonight, I made a Classic Steak Florentine (T-Bone steaks broiled with basil, oregano, salt, pepper and lemon wedges). Roasted baby potatoes and mixed vegetables (carrots, yellow and green string beans). Hmmm, Hmmm, good!
WEEKLY TOPIC: Goal Check In
Exercise: 100% on target for doing NROLFW workouts. (Even more actually) I am doing the last of the two final challenge workouts for Stage 1 TODAY! YAY ME!
Macronutrients: 12 grams (avg) below protein target (need to up) / 3 grams (avg) above carb target (need to reduce) / 1 gram (avg) below fat target (YAY!)
Not WJ goals, but 100 cal (avg) below total calorie target (maybe not good?), and 450 (avg) deficit.
Overall: pretty darn close to 100%.
Results: None.
Still wonder what I'm doing wrong. And whether I should add 2 more days of cardio.
Have a Healthgain Day!
~Julie
Raven Great to hear you are on track with your goals, especially your exercise goal, looks like having the gym at work is really a big positive change for you. Seafood allergy in the maritimes, I can relate to the allergy bit, I have the same issue with pork, I'm always glad I don't live in Quebec for that reason, pork seems to be their main meat.
I'm really not sure about calorie ranges anymore. I think I'm willing to say with some certainty that 1,500 is to low, and 2,500 is too high, where I should be between that 1,000 calorie number I don't know. I'm hoping that will be one of the benefits of tracking a slow decline. I already know that I'm more or less maintaining, I'll eventually see when things are declining.
The Vitamin Dominatrix That's like my partner and I on chores, when I get on about the state of the house he always suggests having a 'chore' day, and then I need to remind him that we are great at collectively finding something else to do on chore day. Good job recognizing where you have slipped and pushing yourself to get back on track.
Germaica Great job on getting the exercise goal. I'm the same way I need to do my exercise as early in the week as possible, if I leave it to later in the week I keep putting it off. The 12 week goals are for exactly that reason, I find as a wagon jumper we set the goals, and then we do them for awhile and then other areas of life take over and we loose track of them. Putting a time frame to them really helps to give that deadline motivation.
Lee-Anne Okay kicks in the butt dolled out, how are you doing this week now? The planning, as all agreed, really is key for food, I did my big grocery shopping yesterday as well. I had been skipping breakfast, due to no breakfasty foods in the home, not a good solution.
Julie How long have you be tracking no results? Can you look back and pair your effort with your tracking. Basically what I'd look for is a solid 12 weeks where I can reliably claim that I put in at least 80% consistently and there were no results. At that point I'd be either hiring a trainer or a dietician, likely the dietician as I hear that weight loss is really 70% food, but of course that's another random statistic that is stuck in my head.
Sara.
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